MY 1st cycle experience (deca/test E)

[BBBBig Phenom]

good stuff

 

[cgar1228]

Thanks! I will update this as soon as start my PCT in about 3 wks and then again after I'm through. I will probably edit the original post (pg.1) so I can keep everything in the same spot.

Current Stats:
207 lbs
BF: about the same
17" bis
Bench: 330 lbs
Note: I don't seem to be too bloated so most of the water weight I was holding around wk 7 is gone.

Starting Stats:
5'11"
191 (starting weight)
11.5% BF
30 yo
15.5" bis (starting)
appox max bench press: 275lbs

Feel free to ask any more questions or critique my cycle. I have modified some things already based on some recommendations which I will add in red on my original post next time I update.

 

[Chester1971]

Being his work out partner, I can attest that this cycle is working out great for him. He looks like a monster compared to when he started it.

 

[cgar1228]

nice work man, you seem to be doing great.

agree that your PCT needs work, the OTC products are great as secondary additions, but you really need the HCG to get things rolling, and a proper SERM like nolva to stimulate you LH production.

Thanks bro. Based on some recommendations from other members I have already changed my PCT to almost exactly what you have suggested except I am adding Unleashed as well. Got the everything on order and if they ship from Rx within 3 wks then I'll be good to go.

 

[needtogetaas]

If all you have for PCT is the TRS then you are going to crash hard and lose most everything you've gained. Get some HCG asap and some nolva and/or clomid.

Not always true. Had he used hcg through out the cycle I think he would be fine. Now its iffy.

My bet is there is no way in hell you are going to get any hcg in time for the cycle or even pct for that matter now.

Run hcgenerate as soon as you get it and for a full 4 weeks. When the cycle ends run the TRS and some formastane 2 pumps am 2 pumps pm. needtobuildmuscle.com for the hcgenerate and orbitnutrition.com for the forma.

I say this because these are the products you will be able to get in time. Once you have other products in hand let me know. But i think this along with the trs and you will be fine bro.

 

[needtogetaas]

If all you have for PCT is the TRS then you are going to crash hard and lose most everything you've gained. Get some HCG asap and some nolva and/or clomid.

BTW YOU think clomid/nolva is going to help with shut down from high levels of progetserone/prolatin? O did not think about that one did ya?

Anyway forma wiil.

 

[needtogetaas]

you need to use real hcg before you start pct
you need to add nolva into your pct plan

Please do not use nolva for pct if you used deca during the cycle. Please dont do it. Thanks

 

[needtogetaas]

Does Aromasin work in the same way as Adex does?
I'm running some Deca also and dont want any bloat.

bloat from a test deca cycle could be ether estrogen or progetaerone related. Have to attack both in order to be sure not to have problems. Nether will work.

 

[needtogetaas]

nolva is fine as long as your prolactin is under control.

bad advice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[needtogetaas]

2 weeks after deca is out of system and you start pct its fine...id hit hcg 500iu ed for 10 days or 1000iu ed for 5 days before pct...hcg is very important

Best to use on cycle but if you cant then after cycle. Then again no way is he getting any in time for pct anyway.