Moya's Log of Insanity: 90 Day Transformation Edition

[moya]

OK everyone... this will be my log for my EF 90-day body transformation contest...
i am absolutely honored to say that i have been chosen for sponsorship by needo, through mr. supps supplement store... i could not have done this without his help, and plan on putting in my best work to make him proud...
OK... now down to business...
the cycle looks like this:
1-12 test e 250mg, 2xwk
1-10 tren a 100mg eod
1-10 proviron 50mg ed
4-7 t-3 12.5mcg ed
8-12 t-3 25mcg ed
6-12 need2slin, 1 cap 3xday before meals
12-18 forma-stanazol, 5 pumps both am and pm
12-16 unleashed and post cycle combo, 1 cap of each 3xday
12-14 HCGenerate 5 caps ed...
...the diet plan will vary, but typicaly look like:
Breakfast

5 slices turkey bacon
12 egg whites
1 banana

Post Workout

whey isolate shake 50g

Lunch #1

6oz chicken breast
sweet potato fries -baked
1cup fat free milk

1st Break @ Work

4oz. ribeye
medium size yam
1cup fat free milk

Lunch #2

6oz chicken breast
1cup brown rice
1cup fat free milk

Break #2

power crunch bar
2oz peanuts
1cup fat free milk
4oz raw broccoli

After Work

whey isolate shake 50g

Dinner

8oz ground turkey
1 avocado

...which pretty much adds up to 3500 calories, 50p/20c/30f...
if anyone has any better ideas for my diet... feel free to make suggestions... im used to eating lots of junk, pizza, burritos etc... so this will be the hard part for me...

my training involves a lot of leg work... a lot of back work... a lot of benching... well, a lot of heavy lifting... i have spent the last few years training as a powerlifter... my best competition lifts are 501 deadlift, 225 paused bench, 402 squat all raw in competition at a bodyweight of 148...
i have a training log, of the same title, in the weightlifting forum... i have been working on some pretty brutal programs the last month and a half, and this cycle should really help...
my pics are in my gallery and will be updated according to schedule...
recieved gear today... this is some reeeeaaaaaly smooth gear... i could pin this stuff 2xday if i had to... should make for a very comfortable cycle...
OK... well ive been on the diet about a week, training like a madman for a while (check that log out in the weight training forum), and the cycle gets started today...
i will be looking forward to trying out needto's products later on... i have used PP's formastane product in the past and was pleased, and from what i hear around here, needto's is even better...
good luck to my fellow competitors... let the change begin...

 

[Arabian]

Congratulations! Thank you , for posting a training log and I for one will be following it, diligently !!

 

[Roxy722]

Hey Moya...great to see your log up and running!! Looking good!

 

[zedhed]

Gr8 start on the log bro.
You gonna be some heavy competition in this bro.
Good luck!

 

[RickO'Shea]

Moya=Mighty Mouse a damn freaking huge Mighty Mouse.

 

[moya]

as i lean out this should be good... in clothes i dont look very big, but i have a very, very small bone structure that will be to my advantage...

i dont like the dieting already... but i havent cheated yet... ...and dont plan on it...

 

[zedhed]

Nah bro you get a hardon over the diet cuz you wanna win this thing and then be a fag male model...HA!

 

[moya]

ok... this gear is absolutely painless as far as im concerned... i may even try a few new spots to pin... for now i am sticking with glutes, vento glute, delts and quads...
wendsday's workout i missed a few lifts in my program, so i may repeat the week...
did:
deadlifts
warmup 5x135, 4x225, 3x315, 2x405, 1x455
work set was supposed to be a double with 490... only got it once though...
speed pulls
3x3x410
power shrugs
2x5x355

squats
warmup, 3x135, 2x225
work
3x245
3x285
4x325
2x2x365
5x345
i was supposed to do a couple more sets and reps but didnt have the energy for it... could be that my carbs are way lower than usual, but i felt good going in to the gym...
i also did some various curls...
cambered bar
10x60
8x70
concentration curls
2x6x30
cable cross curls
12x30 dropset 8x20

i have already leaned out noticably to myself in the mirror... not sure when the next set of pics are due yet, but i think this is coming alone fine...
hopefully once the tren builds up in my system i can make some strength gains...

 

[moya]

killed those squats tonight!...
tren is kickin' in...
Gentleman's Club Anabolics is some top quality gear folks... i could pin this stuff all day...
smooth injects, no pain AT ALL and im not even massaging my sites... and its kicking in just when i needed it... wait until the test builds up in a couple weeks... i think you are all in for a surprise in 3 months...

 

[zedhed]

Awsome bro, awsome!
You gonna be some tuff competieion on the contest dude. You just keep on kicken ass and take no prisoneers!
Train tuff and be safe, best of luck to you.

 

[zedhed]

Post links to pics plz!

 

[moya]

http://www.efbodybuildinggallery.com/showgallery.php?cat=725
link to pics...

 

[zedhed]

Good stuff bro. Gr8 foundation too bro!

 

[moya]

will have my 2-week pics up this friday...

GREAT workout yesterday...
squats
warmup; 7x135, 1x185, 2x225
work
4x245
4x285
4x325
3x365
4x365
5x365

bench
warmup; 10x45, 5x135, 175x2
work
5x195
4x195
cgbp
2x5x175
incline
4x160
5x155

db pullover
5x65
3x80
3x100
3x110

pistol squats
bw:10right/10left
+25db:8/8
oly bar:5/5

deadlifts should be fun tomorrow...
still no pain in injection sites, hit right quad the other day, wil hit the left in a few minutes...

 

[zedhed]

Nice workout brother. You kickin it, good to see. Glad you havin fun with the Club products bro, I do too.

 

[moya]

food i ate today...
breakfast
6egg whites
1whole egg
scrambled with chives and white onion
4 slices turkey bacon
1c kashi cereal + 1c skim milk

meal
8oz salmon
sweet potato fries (baked)
8oz skim milk

snack
2oz peanuts
1/2 banana

break @ work
2(8oz total) ground turkey patties
4baby carrots
1c brown rice

lunch break
8oz chicken breast
1c brown rice
2oz broccoli

2nd break
salad with:
1 can tuna
chives
1/2 stalk celery
1oz almonds
1/2 tsp olive oil
8 medium shrimp
pinch of cheese

drive home
10oz skim milk+1 scoop muscle milk

have two meals to go....
first,
8oz salmon
avocado slices

before bed
8oz chicken breast
in bed by 2am pst... i work swing shift and get up at 9am...

 

[zedhed]

Hey bro thanks for postin up your diet.
Just FYI, most peeps tend to do better using other nuts then penuts. You may wanna check that out with RADAR.
Keep on kickin it good brother!

 

[moya]

yes, im just trying to keep my sanity right now... when it comes down to the last month there will be no dairy, or peanuts... but for now i am using both peanuts and almonds- unless you think that will ruin my diet- but if i eat a lot of almonds i may get an alergic reaction as i have in the past...
i will also be using olives as a healthy fat source... my wife is lagging on the groceries though... lol...

 

[moya]

todays workout is in my other log in the weightlifting forum...
will be changing up the routine slightly, going back to how i trained before... killer instinct...

 

[moya]

ok, started am fasted cardio today... thankfully i have a jogger stroller, because i have the baby in the morning...
i will be doing fasted cardio in the am on tues, thurs and sat mornings...
because i do my weights m,w,f i wont be able to do it those days... and sundays i go into work at 530am...

 

[zedhed]

Hey bro, don't think its a good idea to combine your logs. Don't forget that all of you are judged on your logs as well as pics. JIMO would be best to concentrate on this one.
Now with that said,
KEEP THE GOOD WORK BROTHER!

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[moya]

ok, tonight i got pissed off at the boss at work... went home 'sick' and did a quick workout...
didnt have my journal to write it down, but i think i remember it like this...
warmup arnold press
40x5, 50x5
bench press
135x5
155x5
185x3
205x1
210x1
215x1
military press
5x95
3x115
3x125dropped into,
5x95
oh db tri extentions
8x50
5x80
5x100dropset into,
10x25 one armed
9x90drop set into,
10x20 one armed
db chest fly's
10x20
10x25
10x30
db chest raises
12x10
12x15
16x15

keeping up on the diet... sticking to the one i previously posted pretty much 100%... subbed broccoli and green beans for brown rice in my lunch meal today to lower the carbs a bit...
tomorrow morning will be a brutal leg workout, will post up a training vid later in the afternoon... should be a lot of fun

 

[moya]

first night of trensomia!....
now i know its built up well in my system... drinking a shake right now, a little off the diet, but having a brutal leg workout this morning...
50g whey isolate
2/3c oats
1 scoop vanilla carb-smart ice cream
3 chunks pineapple
2c water

will have a solid meal an hour later, then off to the gym...

 

[zedhed]

Get that leg workout up here dude, I wanna see the pain bro!
Good to hear that the juice is workin on ya bro!

 

[moya]

week 0

week 2

find the other pics in my gallery, and the contest gallery...

 

[moya]

todays workout... legs
did front squats to warm up my knees and hips for the torture to come... my max with 225 is about 10 reps...

front squats
5x135
3x185
5x225 YouTube - warmup, front squats 5x225

leg sled
did a warmup still to get a feel for the weight
5plates per side x5
6ppsx3
7ppsx2
8ppsx1
9ppsx3 used light knee wraps
work
10pps (1067lbs) YouTube - leg sled, 1067x5 into dropset from hell used heavy knee wraps and dropped down during the set...

walking lunges
8 reps/legx135
8reps/legx225 YouTube - walking lunges 8x225/leg used light knee wraps... i really feel these in my calves... glutes and legs too, but these get my calves really pumped...

pistol squats
a few sets like this... YouTube - pistol squats
see the wicked pump i get in my quads from these...

box jumps
start off doing a few reps at lower heights,
then end up with... YouTube - box jumps, 15 steps+platform, pistol squats
some pistol squats at the top, lost balance towards the end, had to put myself back in check...

shrugs and sldl
i dont to these very often, just had so extra energy and my deadlift can always use some extra work...
10x135 shrugs/ 10x135 sldl
10x225/ 10x225
10x275/ 10x275 YouTube - shrugs 10x275, sldl 10x275

sponsored by mr.supps.com... fueled by Gentlemen's Club Anabolics... with lots of chalk and hate...
next week will be filming deadlifts, rows and db pullovers on wendsday... thanks to my wife for taking the time to video my lifts...
a good workout, not my best ever but wanted to get a good variety of exersises in and work on a pump... also the low carbs are a bitch to work with...

 

[needtogetaas]

Looks like My young pawdwon is doing great. All my trainees will do awesome in this comp. Is there anyone is this comp not under me?

 

[Peterlumberjack]

homes maybe needto... moya thats sick man. Very nice work. Moving some wt for sure.

 

[Peterlumberjack]

im gonna have to step it up

 

[zedhed]

Looks like My young pawdwon is doing great. All my trainees will do awesome in this comp. Is there anyone is this comp not under me?

If I wouldnt have had to pull out cuz of this dam hernia I would have been competition for you and your crew good bro! I was going that way on purpose....

 

[zedhed]

todays workout... legs
did front squats to warm up my knees and hips for the torture to come... my max with 225 is about 10 reps...

front squats
5x135
3x185
5x225 YouTube - warmup, front squats 5x225
Nice moya very nice loving them dam front squats. So does your knees!

leg sled
did a warmup still to get a feel for the weight
5plates per side x5
6ppsx3
7ppsx2
8ppsx1
9ppsx3 used light knee wraps
work
10pps (1067lbs) YouTube - leg sled, 1067x5 into dropset from hell used heavy knee wraps and dropped down during the set...
This right here fuckin rocks dude. Only 2 things. Your helper needs to get off his ass and be more in tune with you bro, he is not helpin you too dam much.
Also just give this a try. Try em bbr style. By that I mean no pause on lockout. Dont even lockout, bring the weight back to you just shy of lockout. This way you keep constant tension on those quads. I know youre about strength, but for the contest you gotta think looks bro.

walking lunges
8 reps/legx135
8reps/legx225 YouTube - walking lunges 8x225/leg used light knee wraps... i really feel these in my calves... glutes and legs too, but these get my calves really pumped...
Nice bro, nice!

pistol squats
a few sets like this... YouTube - pistol squats
see the wicked pump i get in my quads from these...
So youre a saddistic little fart arent you brotherLOL

box jumps
start off doing a few reps at lower heights,
then end up with... YouTube - box jumps, 15 steps+platform, pistol squats
some pistol squats at the top, lost balance towards the end, had to put myself back in check...
To be young again.....

shrugs and sldl
i dont to these very often, just had so extra energy and my deadlift can always use some extra work...
10x135 shrugs/ 10x135 sldl
10x225/ 10x225
10x275/ 10x275 YouTube - shrugs 10x275, sldl 10x275
moya bro, the way you do shrugs is not good for you neck. Next time you do them have your partner put their hand behind your head when you are standing there with the weight. Then you will be able to feel not to punch your chin forward the way you do.
Also give power shrugs a shot, you may like them better.

sponsored by mr.supps.com... fueled by Gentlemen's Club Anabolics... with lots of chalk and hate...
next week will be filming deadlifts, rows and db pullovers on wendsday... thanks to my wife for taking the time to video my lifts...
a good workout, not my best ever but wanted to get a good variety of exersises in and work on a pump... also the low carbs are a bitch to work with...

Ok competitors, this bro has taken off the kidgloves. Hope you all are paying attention cuz he is gonna be a force to be reckoned with.

Nice moya.....very Nice!even givin you a nipple shaker LOL!

 

[moya]

my wife does a much better job spotting, but i wanted her to do the camera... the other trainer that works there does a much better job too...
and i didnt even want help racking the lunges, he just did that on his own...
next week... deadlift vids ...and that is my specialty...

 

[zedhed]

Looking forward to that brother!

 

[RickO'Shea]

Nice freaking Job Mighty Mouse. That's some serious work. I wish I could do pistols but my knees just won't let me.

 

[Roxy722]

Moya...you're an animal! Good job!

 

[Peterlumberjack]

Moya sorry if this was addressed somewhere else, but what was your previous cycle history?

 

[moya]

ive ran a good half-dozen fairly conservative cycles based mostly around test only, a powerlifters workout, and a diet of pizza, burritos and fast food...
so i guess you could say ive been bulking for quite some time...

 

[moya]

ok, thankfully they fixed the sauna at the gym... my bodyweight is up to 160 post sauna, and i am still getting leaner...
feel very refreshed sitting in there for about a half hour stretching... glutes a little sore from yesterday, but no real soreness in my quads... they are prettty used to hard workouts, so i am going to have to pick up the pace here...

 

[zedhed]

Gotta love you moya, youre a workhorse dude!

 

[moya]

ok... today was the first day i did not stick to my diet plan 100%... but its because i got a little food poisening from eating a proposedly bad chicken breast... at least thats all i can link it to...
after eating my 3rd meal of the day @work this morning, i felt some seriously sharp pain in my lower abdomen... felt nautious and tried to chuck it up... but i wasnt able to until 4 hours later when i got home... so i missed a meal or two... but feel completely fine now... tomorrow morning the workouts continue as usual, planning on flat bench and back squats for my main lifts, then probably some iso work on the chest... i'll just go by instinct...
ooh, i get to pin 2ml's tomorrow, looking forward to that ...i just love pinning...

 

[zedhed]

ok... today was the first day i did not stick to my diet plan 100%... but its because i got a little food poisening from eating a proposedly bad chicken breast... at least thats all i can link it to...
after eating my 3rd meal of the day @work this morning, i felt some seriously sharp pain in my lower abdomen... felt nautious and tried to chuck it up... but i wasnt able to until 4 hours later when i got home... so i missed a meal or two... but feel completely fine now... tomorrow morning the workouts continue as usual, planning on flat bench and back squats for my main lifts, then probably some iso work on the chest... i'll just go by instinct...
ooh, i get to pin 2ml's tomorrow, looking forward to that ...i just love pinning...

yeah bro thats cuz its makes us all feel soooo damm gooood!

 

[moya]

monday
squats
warmup, 10x135, 5x225, 3x315, 1x365
work
with light knee wraps to a bench about 1in above parallel...
5x405
3x435
no bench, below parallel
10x315, not close to failure as this is a 'lighter' leg day... (every workout includes at least some kind of leg move )

bench press
warmup, 10x45, 5x135
work
10x160 (my bodyweight, not to failure)
1x185
1x205
1x215
2x220 very slight assistance on 2nd rep from my 'good' spotter, lol...

cgbp
2x10x135

incline db press
10x50's
7x60's

dips
8xBW
8x45
4x90 dropset into 10xBW

cross cable chest/ low cable chest raise
20x50/12x20
10x60 drop 6x40/ 6x30 drop 10x10

rope pressdown
14x40

side lateral raise
12x20, 10x25 very slow contractions

delt front raise
15x15's 10x20 same tempo as above

hanging twists
3 sets of 20 reps/side

about an hour and a half...
sauna 10 min post workout... weigh in @159 post shower, looking even leaner...
WILL BE STARTING T-3 TODAY @12.5mcg/day...
diet on track today... no weights tomorrow, will do fasted cardio in the am...
wendsday will be deadlifts, and moreso of a back/bi workout...
may go for a PR deadlift if i feel good... see how the warmup goes, then i plan on going for max reps with 405, my previous PR with that is 11 reps... 15 would be nice will do vids on this one...

 

[zedhed]

more vids more vids more vids more more more.

yeah im greedy so sue me.....

 

[moya]

ok special treat for me today... wife made stuffed bellpeppers! stuffed with ground turkey, an egg, celery, onion and a little tomato sauce (2tbsp)...
this is making the diet not so bad today...

did fasted cardio this morning with the baby in the jogger stroller... he is being a good sport in the cold weather...

 

[psizzle_8]

ok special treat for me today... wife made stuffed bellpeppers! stuffed with ground turkey, an egg, celery, onion and a little tomato sauce (2tbsp)...
this is making the diet not so bad today...

did fasted cardio this morning with the baby in the jogger stroller... he is being a good sport in the cold weather...

My stomach growled when reading that!! Lookin good man, keep it up!

 

[zedhed]

Thats cool bro, baby in the stroller!

 

[moya]

ok friends... back and bi workout today...
my back routine is pretty much centered upon deadlifts, felt strong today, but didnt quite do what i wanted to do...
deads, sumo stance
warmup, no belt, 5x135, 3x225, 2x315, 1x405
warmup, add belt, 1x405 1x465
work
1/2x510, YouTube - 1/2x510... not quite locked... ...almost had it, a little disappointed here... just shy of lockout but damn near there... maybe go 485 for a double next week...
14x405, YouTube - 14x405 @160 chalk and hate when i took a knee at the end i intended on trying another rep, but my wife thougt i was done... but that was OK as this was still a PR by 3 reps... NO BELT... just chalk and hate... high reps for bodybuilding right...
...did re-chalk a couple times, but i think we can all agree that would be considered one set...

db pullovers
3x65
3x85
9x100, YouTube - db pullovers 9x100

db rows
10x120, YouTube - db rows 10x120

pistol squats...
just scored a pair of olympic lifting shoes for practically nothing... this was just a test run to try them out... i like them...
10x+25db pistol squats, YouTube - pistol squats 10x25

cambered bar curl
10x70

hammer curls
10x20's

cable curls
10x30/30
10x20/20
10x20/20

hour and a half, spent a lot of time resting, getting psyched out and bullshitting...
KILL THAT SHIT!!!

 

[moya]

not as sore as i thought i would be... ...yet...
stared to feel it on the drive home from work...
i have always had a fairly good recovery ability, thankfully...
not sure on the workout for friday yet... see how i feel then, will try to get up early enough to do yoga...

 

[zedhed]

That your wife bro? Nice avi.....

 

[moya]

ya, we are both very jealous of eachother...



im pretty sure i got the better end of the deal though...

 

[gymjunkie09]

damn bro how long you been power lifting for? that's crazy how much weight you throw around at your size........nice work!

 

[moya]

abs starting to come out more... i think i hold more fat in my arms than anywhere else... maybe its water... ive been trying the last few days to get in more water... im getting at least a gallon for sure, but i know i could do better... its hard at work, because if i drink water all day, i have to take a bathroom break like every hour... and the bathroom is like a 7 minute trip back and fourth...
on a positive note, im not really craving pizza and junk anymore...
today my jacked up tuna salad looks like this:
mixed lettuce, green and purples
1can tuna
4 large prawns
1oz almonds
6 sliced olives
1/2 tsp olive oil
chopped peppers
green onions
chopped celery

this is probably becoming my favorite meal of the day...
...the one im starting to not like so much are the eggs... started adding a little salsa to them yesterday...

 

[psizzle_8]

Keep it up bruh!

 

[moya]

damn bro how long you been power lifting for? that's crazy how much weight you throw around at your size........nice work!

its taken a while now...
ive been lifting for at least 8 years... but started off doing a classic chest/tri, back/bi, legs/shoulders routine, each twice a week, 3 sets of 10 on waaay too many exersises.... didnt get very far in the first two or three years...
found EF in around 2005, and started lifting heavier, less often and started eating more (not totally clean)... i did my first powerlifting competition may 31st 2008... it was a local meet here in modesto and i entered the 'deadlift only', won not only my weight class, but overall best lifter award as well... now i have been doing one or two a year... i place at the top localy, but on the national level i have a long way to go... i was actualy invited to the olympia weekend deadlift only event last year, but sat it out because i did not feel i would be up to the competitive level of the other lifters there...
this year i will be working more on my squat though, as i find it has a lot of untapped potential...
my best 3 lift total was done last november in modesto, 1129@148 raw, overall best raw lifter...

im not sure i have the genetics for bodybuilding... we will all see in a couple more months here...

 

[moya]

friday morning
did yoga this morning... dripping in a pool of sweat, this was not fun at all...
then took a quick break and downed a protein shake and went at the weights....

front squats
10x135
5x155
oh squats
3x135
clean and jerk
1x185
back squats
8x225
1x315
1x355
1x365 light knee wraps
1x385 "
1x405 heavy knee wraps, went up strong...
5x315

bench press
10x135
8x155
1x175
1x195
1x205
1x215
8x155

incline db press
8x50
8x60
6x70 not failure, but fatigued...

side delt raise
10x20
12x15, very slow, 5 sec holds at top...

front delt raise
15x15

single arm db tri ext
10x20lb per arm, no rest,
5x25 "
5x30 "

dips
15xbw

low cable chest raise
15x20/20
12x10/10

chest cross cables
15x60

...awesome pump... looked harder and drier today...
gentlemen's club anabolics test is reeeeeaaally kicking in now, the wife likes the product as well!

time to get down to some serious eating now...

might go back tonight just to hit abs and calfs... still not having time for that...
KILL THAT SHIT!

 

[Roxy722]

Crazy workout Moya!! Geez!! I'm really impressed!

Have a great weekend! Good job on the diet too.

 

[moya]

thank you!...
the diet seems to go flawless through the work week... its the weekend (fri sat off) where i find myself scrambling to get meals made and having to grab an extra shake when we are out...

my recovery level is just off the charts... i feel like i could litteraly spend all day pumping iron...
my back isnt even sore anymore from the deadlifts on wed... usualy i feel those up until saturday...

 

[Roxy722]

thank you!...
the diet seems to go flawless through the work week... its the weekend (fri sat off) where i find myself scrambling to get meals made and having to grab an extra shake when we are out...

my recovery level is just off the charts... i feel like i could litteraly spend all day pumping iron...
my back isnt even sore anymore from the deadlifts on wed... usualy i feel those up until saturday...

It's almost backwards from what you'd expect. I always thought dieting would be easier on the weekends when you have more time to prepare meals and eat. It's the opposite for me too. I do much better when I'm on a structured routine, not sleeping in etc....Go figure!

 

[bader85]

Moya bro.. been reading your log since you started.. but thought I'd just chime in.

You're doing awesome, week 2 pics were definitely noticeable difference in definition. Your strength is incredible. Keep killing it man.

 

[moya]

thank you!
i will tell you now, my physique today is way ahead of those 2 week pics... in no way am i slowing down, i may even be coming along at a better pace now... and the new pics arent due for a few more days...
i have been a little bloated, but after a good sauna or letro dose that is no problem...

also i haven't really said much about what i do for a living, but i get a TON of cardio at work... lots of lifting, lunging, twisting, squatting etc... i work in a frozen/chilled foods warehouse as an order picker... all day i am moving quickly and am the top performer for the company i work for in the entire nation... not trying to brag, just letting you know the kind of work i put in outside of the gym, and this is also why i focus on the heavy lifts much more, as i do plenty of 'light' lifting... i pull about 30-45k lbs of product at work in a night... it has kept me in decent shape on a diet of pizza and junk food...

 

[wcjcMr.O]

hey man just wondering, are you trying to mass build right now than diet here in the future or are you on your "get cut" diet right now?

 

[moya]

im not going to change my diet very much unless needto or zed direct me otherwise...
this diet has gained me muscle and lost bodyfat at the same time, as my weight is pretty much the same as when i started...

 

[moya]

imo, i dont think 3 months is enough time to bulk AND cut... just one or the other... pro bodybuilders take about that much time to cut themselves...
also, muscle that has been around a long time is easier kept than muscle that is new... i would not want to spend a lot of time specificaly gaining some new muscle that i may not even be able to keep as i lean out...
if i gain muscle, great, but my goal here is to keep what i have and come in looking SHARP and HARD...

 

[wcjcMr.O]

nice

 

[moya]

just got back from my fasted cardio this morning... threw in a couple sets of sprints, one up a pretty decent grade hill...

yesterday i swapped out some tri-tip steaks for the chicken...
will go grocery shopping today, we will see whats on sale in the meat dept, but i would like to get more fish and red meat because im getting sick on chicken...

 

[Peterlumberjack]

nice work bro. i had to let sirloin back in this week. need me some red meat!

 

[zedhed]

You right moya, cant do both. So you made your choice and its workin for you.
Yep RED MEAT RULLS!
Anything Loin is prolly ok for you bro.
Happy Eats man!

 

[moya]

im going top sirloin and tri tip (is that ok?) steaks...
...will still be eating mostly turkey and chicken though... bought 3lb of ground turkey, which is 85/15, because of cost... when i get my tax check in a few weeks there will be no cutting corners though... the final stretch will be mostly salmon and 97/3 turkey...
usualy i have my tax money by now, but the irs put a hold on the forms for some of us... grrr...

 

[Roxy722]

im going top sirloin and tri tip (is that ok?) steaks...
...will still be eating mostly turkey and chicken though... bought 3lb of ground turkey, which is 85/15, because of cost... when i get my tax check in a few weeks there will be no cutting corners though... the final stretch will be mostly salmon and 97/3 turkey...
usualy i have my tax money by now, but the irs put a hold on the forms for some of us... grrr...

I love tax refunds! lol

 

[moya]

oh yeah, my log won the anabolic steroids forum thread of the week...
off today... the squat rack and bench are fearing my return tomorrow...

 

[Roxy722]

oh yeah, my log won the anabolic steroids forum thread of the week...
off today... the squat rack and bench are fearing my return tomorrow...

Nice!! karma for you!

 

[moya]

monday

got in a lot more water before my workout... probably a factor in why i destroyed the gym this morning...

squats
warmup, 5x135, 8x225, 5x315, 1x365
work
3x405 in light knee wraps, parallel or lower
1x435 in heavy knee wraps, made depth for sure
9x405, light knee wraps, off a low bench about 1-2 inches above parallel
front squats, ATG
5x225
10x135, very slow contractions

bench press
5x135
5x155
5x175
3x195
1x205
1x215

db bench press
8x60's
10x70's (PR?)
5x80's

2 arm OH db tri ext
5x85
5x95
5x100
single arm "
5x20 /arm
5x25

db chest raise
10x15 drop 10x10

hanging twists
3 sets 20/side

cable chest fly
12x20/20 drop 10x10/10

high incline arnold press
12x45's

side lateral raise/front raise
10x20/10x15
10x20/10x15

didnt want to leave gym...
seeing some big differences in the mirror... if i keep this up i should be somewhere bewteen 3-5%bf when this is through...

 

[zedhed]

WOW moya! Impressive improvments for you bro! Numbers are looking very nice!

 

[bader85]

yea, great workout and numbers today man.

 

[moya]

i find it odd myself that i am able to get stronger on much lower carbs... i was eating whole large pizzas, and was improving, but not at the rate i am on this cycle...
maybe my other gear was underdosed?... or the extra protein im getting is building new muscle, as i am probably now aproaching the level of conditioning i usualy reach at the END of a cycle, and i have a lot more size and time to go...
i am holding a bit of water, but a few hours sauna, and little extra letro can easily take care of that... dont want to pull out all the stops quite yet

wendsday back and bi as usual...
friday bench/squat again, will get up more vids, and it will be a PM workout so i may go for a bench PR and a squat PR...

 

[Roxy722]

i find it odd myself that i am able to get stronger on much lower carbs... i was eating whole large pizzas, and was improving, but not at the rate i am on this cycle...
maybe my other gear was underdosed?... or the extra protein im getting is building new muscle, as i am probably now aproaching the level of conditioning i usualy reach at the END of a cycle, and i have a lot more size and time to go...
i am holding a bit of water, but a few hours sauna, and little extra letro can easily take care of that... dont want to pull out all the stops quite yet

wendsday back and bi as usual...
friday bench/squat again, will get up more vids, and it will be a PM workout so i may go for a bench PR and a squat PR...

Very impressive numbers Moya!! I do think the quality and dosing makes a huge difference...gotta love that GCA! Maybe the difference in what you are eating too? lower carbs but more quality foods...the whole micro and macro thing....

 

[moya]

ok i was thinking about it today at work and i have an idea of how i am getting stronger... the last cycle i ran was my first time on tren at the same dose im running it now... however, i was eating a LOT of carbs, all the way up until bedtime, and i had a LOT of trouble sleeping...
now, this run im cutting the carbs off by 9pm (i work nights, remember, so this isnt late for me) and im getting much better sleep... im still waking up with night sweats, but im able to go back to sleep very easily, thus getting much more rest...
im pretty sure thats what it is, im getting better rest and its making a huge difference...

 

[Peterlumberjack]

thats good reasoning moya, sleep is hugely important.

very impressive numbers. There is no atg happening over in my log.

 

[psizzle_8]

nice work moya train hard bruh!

 

[zedhed]

I think your mostly right on with your conclusion. But I also think that the purity and quality of the gear is worth considering. I have heard quite a few stories of very nearly the same for guyz on the GCA. IMO it is a combination of all of it.
Your workouts are awsome bro I gotta take my hat off to your work ethic here brother.

 

[moya]

do you think some of tren's sides can be attributed to impure gear?... that would make sense...
i do know i am getting better gains with less sides on less total calories...
no doubt, i will not be using anything other than Gentlemen's Club Anabolics from here on out... i hope they plan on staying around for a looooong time!...

i took some pics of the gear when i first got it and have been meaning to put it up in the pics of anabolic steroids forum... everytime i go to do uploads i have forgot, but i will make sure to get them up this time...

we are still waiting on the household items needed for the next set of pics, i PM'd BRR, and others have left posts in other threads about it... ready for battle here!

 

[shibs]

Nice man your lifts are lookin good!

 

[Roxy722]

Moya...I know Rick O'shea has had some really bad experiences with impure gear...he's written about it in his log. Even my limited experiences in using clen from various sources...you know the difference in quality.

Maybe we need to collectively pick a household item if we don't hear anything?

 

[Arem]

I hate to be a debbie downer, but shouldnt you have waited until you were closer to your natural potential before you started using? Seems like you could have packed on some more mass naturally before picking up juice.

 

[moya]

I hate to be a debbie downer, but shouldnt you have waited until you were closer to your natural potential before you started using? Seems like you could have packed on some more mass naturally before picking up juice.

ok, i will tell you why my friend, 'because i can'... now let me tell you somthing, i have worked like hell for everything i have in life so prepare to listen to what i have to say...
first off, i started off as a powerlifter, and spent plenty of blood and puke getting stronger, stronger than ANYONE else at the gold's gym in oakdale, ca... i never cared about size, just about being stronger than people like you... now, taking a look at your post history, i find it comical that you are asking how to 'hide' your size from mommy and daddy... i answer to nobody, my parents know i cycle, my wife knows i cycle and even my 8 year old daughter knows that nothing in life comes for free, that juice just helps ignite the fire, and hard work is what seperates the weak from the strong... i'd bet HER hands are more calloused than yours...
let me ask you now, how many hours have you spent rotting away, slaving in a frozen foods warehouse? making a hard earned living for a family that you willl do anything for, work until your hands bleed, your lips crack and the boss is forced to cut back your pay, because the bonus you are bringing in is greater than his...?
let me ask you, does your deadlift qualify you for the mr. olympia invatational?... are you the one on here putting your face out for the world to see?
i have now gained over 50 pounds of lean muscle since i first started lifting 8 years ago...

...but i guess im not ready for juice yet, right guys...

 

[wcjcMr.O]

touchy subject moya? dang, you tell him. lol let me know if you find out the household item for this round and I will do the same for you man

 

[C.K.]

I loved tren I would literally wake up everyday and notice a difference in the mirror and my scalp lmao good luck bro

 

[zedhed]

do you think some of tren's sides can be attributed to impure gear?... that would make sense...
Yes I do very much. Not just tren but all gear. For anyone that has homebrewed they well know that you are totally dependant on your raw products. Of course the quality control in putting it all together counts hugly too.
i do know i am getting better gains with less sides on less total calories...
no doubt, i will not be using anything other than Gentlemen's Club Anabolics from here on out... i hope they plan on staying around for a looooong time!...
Me too bro, if they dont Im gonna be way pissed!

i took some pics of the gear when i first got it and have been meaning to put it up in the pics of anabolic steroids forum... everytime i go to do uploads i have forgot, but i will make sure to get them up this time...
Yeah that would be cool bro.

we are still waiting on the household items needed for the next set of pics, i PM'd BRR, and others have left posts in other threads about it... ready for battle here!

Maybe try N2? See if maybe he can just say its gonna be this and that...

 

[moya]

wed 2/16/11

deadlifts
warmup, 8x135, 5x225, 3x315, 2x405
work
2x445 no belt
1.5x485 belt, just missed lockout on 2nd... which made me do...
no belt
6.5x425, drop set into
7x405 rest pause, static holds every other rep

barbell rows
2x5x185

bb shrugs (worked on better form)
12x185
10x275
8x275

lower rest worksets,

db pullovers
8x80
5x100
4x105, failure

standing cambered bar curl
8x70
12x60

double bi cable curls
10x20/20 up-set 6x30/30
6x30/30 dropset 6x20/20

seated low cable pulley
20x70 up-set 5x100 up-set 5x115

db shrugs/hammer curls
15x80/ 10x20's

ya, that guy above pissed me off... someone living with mommy and daddy and hiding in fear...
my parents are educated enough, to know that i am educated enough to make sound descisions in my own life...

get out the way, im a freight train running with no brakes... im a pit bull frothing at the mouth... i am not taking any prisoners people, just leaving a trail of bent bars in a dust cloud of chalk...

my anger is a gift

 

[zedhed]

I hate to be a debbie downer, but shouldnt you have waited until you were closer to your natural potential before you started using? Seems like you could have packed on some more mass naturally before picking up juice.

Natural Potential, I know this has been said on here and other boards many many times. However I feel that this is a head in the sand attitude.
Because,
I cannot name one personanywhere that has really reached their genitic (natural) potential before using juice. And I dont know of anyone that can (name someone that has) How do you determine a persons genetic (natural) potential

What I would say to anyone contemplating using juice is that they should be an expereinced lifter and at the high end of at least an intermediat lifers development.
To say to someone (and I have done this too) well you should not use juice till you reach your genitic potential is kind of rediculous when you really think about the statement, IMO.

Now for a person that has spent years of lifting and dieting properly, using protien and creatine etc. That person by now should know their body enough to do and benefit from a Test cycle.

A test only cycle I feel is where everyone should start. The reasons have been discussed enough and we all know why.

Moya has put in his time and knows his body. I know that he thought this out before just jumping on the wagon and saying ok take me there. And right there he is at least a step above the typical on this board.
All you really have to do to know this is to read back on moya's posts and look at what he has to say.

 

[Peterlumberjack]

"i'd bet HER hands are more calloused than yours..." this is my favorite part

 

[gymjunkie09]

I hate to be a debbie downer, but shouldnt you have waited until you were closer to your natural potential before you started using? Seems like you could have packed on some more mass naturally before picking up juice.

Lmao @ arem........boom goes the dynamite on his karma. This contest is getn good

 

[Arem]

ok, i will tell you why my friend, 'because i can'... now let me tell you somthing, i have worked like hell for everything i have in life so prepare to listen to what i have to say...
first off, i started off as a powerlifter, and spent plenty of blood and puke getting stronger, stronger than ANYONE else at the gold's gym in oakdale, ca... i never cared about size, just about being stronger than people like you... now, taking a look at your post history, i find it comical that you are asking how to 'hide' your size from mommy and daddy... i answer to nobody, my parents know i cycle, my wife knows i cycle and even my 8 year old daughter knows that nothing in life comes for free, that juice just helps ignite the fire, and hard work is what seperates the weak from the strong... i'd bet HER hands are more calloused than yours...
let me ask you now, how many hours have you spent rotting away, slaving in a frozen foods warehouse? making a hard earned living for a family that you willl do anything for, work until your hands bleed, your lips crack and the boss is forced to cut back your pay, because the bonus you are bringing in is greater than his...?
let me ask you, does your deadlift qualify you for the mr. olympia invatational?... are you the one on here putting your face out for the world to see?
i have now gained over 50 pounds of lean muscle since i first started lifting 8 years ago...

...but i guess im not ready for juice yet, right guys...

I wasn't trying to call you out bud. You made great improvements like you stated but since you were making such great improvements why not stay natural until they tapered off? Your deadlift is strong, but areas such as your bench which is frankly not in line with your deadlift, could have been improved before turning to juice.

And I actually am stronger than you. And Ive worked some pretty shit jobs in my time and Im only 22. Much respect though for raising your family man, takes commitment to hold a job, raise a family, and find time to get in the gym and be as strong as you are. At the same time you dont know anything about me and like I said, Im 22, Im stronger, bigger, and was all of these even when I was natural.

Id post a video of a pretty big lift, but I dont want to embarrass you.

 

[moya]

im sure you are bigger than me...
but there is absolutely nothing you can show me you do that would make me embarassed of my accomplishments...

 

[Arem]

im sure you are bigger than me...
but there is absolutely nothing you can show me you do that would make me embarassed of my accomplishments...

You should be proud of your accomplishments but I was referring to embarrassing you for calling me out personally. I work just as hard as the next guy to add every pound to my lifts. Ive been lifting longer than you and am 22.

 

[Roxy722]

You should be proud of your accomplishments but I was referring to embarrassing you for calling me out personally. I work just as hard as the next guy to add every pound to my lifts. Ive been lifting longer than you and am 22.

With all due respect to you, Arem, it seems ironic that you are making an argument about natty vs not and natural potential, when you are too young to have even come close to reaching yours yet, biologically. You would be in your prime growth years, as a young man at 22, with your test levels as high as they'll ever be in a natural state. Those who live in glass houses kind of thing...

And why come on a steroid board and give one guy grief for using? Makes me wonder who you are...maybe your name should be Alter instead of Arem.

 

[Arem]

With all due respect to you, Arem, it seems ironic that you are making an argument about natty vs not and natural potential, when you are too young to have even come close to reaching yours yet, biologically. You would be in your prime growth years, as a young man at 22, with your test levels as high as they'll ever be in a natural state. Those who live in glass houses kind of thing...

And why come on a steroid board and give one guy grief for using? Makes me wonder who you are...maybe your name should be Alter instead of Arem.

I do it primarily for athletic reasons. I have a narrower window. And I had weighed over 220 and benched 315 before i ever touched juice (not like thats that impressive, but far bigger than most before they touch the needle).

 

[moya]

athletic reasons...

May 31, 2008, WABDL Golden State Classic, Modest, CA: 1st place 148 weight class Deadlift, winner overall best lifter by formula

Spring 2009, WABDL California State Bench Press & Deadlift Championships, Chico, CA: 1st place 148 class Deadlift

May 24, 2009, USPF Muscle Beach Championship, Venice, CA: 1st place 148 wt class, full power

November 2009, WABDL World Championships, Reno, NV: 3rd place 148 wt class, deadlift

May 30, 2010, USPF Muscle Beach Championship, Venice, CA: 1st place 148 wt class, deadlift

November 13, 2010, USPA Nor Cal Championships, Modesto, CA: 1st place 148 wt class, winner overall best lifter award, RAW full power...

all these events can be looked up on the respective federation's websites...
you're only making a fool of yourself here bro... please, stop wasting my time, there are plenty of weaker juicers for you to be bothering with your nonsense...

 

[zedhed]

I wasn't trying to call you out bud. You made great improvements like you stated but since you were making such great improvements why not stay natural until they tapered off? Your deadlift is strong, but areas such as your bench which is frankly not in line with your deadlift, could have been improved before turning to juice.

And I actually am stronger than you. And Ive worked some pretty shit jobs in my time and Im only 22. Much respect though for raising your family man, takes commitment to hold a job, raise a family, and find time to get in the gym and be as strong as you are. At the same time you dont know anything about me and like I said, Im 22, Im stronger, bigger, and was all of these even when I was natural.

Id post a video of a pretty big lift, but I dont want to embarrass you.

I allowed you the benefit of doubt till I read this......^^^Put up or SHUT THE FUCK UP on all of these peeps logs!

 

[moya]

fasted cardio this morning in the rain... took 3rd set of pics last night, will have them up asap...
tomorrow will be a big day in the gym... am off work fri/sat so i will go in the pm and may even cheat a little on the diet because i plan on KILLING THAT SHIT!

edit: wife just walked in the door with food!
97/3 ground turkey is on sale... 20oz for $3.50...