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Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mass.

Arabian

Arabian

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I am getting some ideas for my next upcoming cycle and would like to have everyones input on this? I going to be running a 20 week ,lean mass cycle looking to gain as much lean muscle as possible without the bloat. I am not gyno prone so lets hear it guys? Thanks in advance for your time and effort, and I will as usual give away karma and plat memberships to anyone that can receive them.. Again thanks!!!!!!!! GO.:artist:

Current cycle now, beginning week 6, today.
Week 1-14
Test Cypionate 750
Week 6-14
Tren 100 EOD

My Stats:
6 2'
12 to 14 % BF
218 currently

Training 5 plus times a week
Eating 4000 to 5000 clean calories a day now.
Currently not doing any cardio.
 
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Ok bro, money being no object this cycle will transform you beyond belief. And I know you well enough to know that you will have your diet and workout g2g along with it. But for those that may not know this cycle would go along with a mixed workout of low volume very high intensity and med volume very high intensity. You would want your bod comp to be 12-14% beginning this. At the end you would easily bir 10 or less.
Here you go bro!
(I would not use the slin as I know that Im not ready for it)

Week 1-4 Test Prop 100mg MWF
Week 1-4 Dbol 50mg/d
Week 22-27 Var 60mg/d

Week 1-6 Test E 1250mg/w
Week 7-12 Test E 1000mg/w
Week 13-18 Test E 750mg/w
Week 19-24 Test E 500mg/w

Week 1-8 Deca 600mg/w
Week 9-16 Deca 800mg/w
Week 17-24 Deca 1000mg/w

Week 1-12 GH54ius ED
Week 17-20 GH 5ius ED

Week 13-16, 21-24 GH 10ius MWF, 10ius Slin 3x a day TuTh

Week 1-24 Proviron 50mg/d, HCG 250iu EOD, Aromasin 12.5-25mg ED, Caber .5mg 2x a week
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

throw primo in at 1g :)
I also like eq for long cycles at a moderate dose like 500-700mg if you can handle eq
then test at like 500-whatever

throw beast in for a kick start and that would be pretty crazy

hope that helps a bit.
 
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zedhed said:
Ok bro, money being no object this cycle will transform you beyond belief. And I know you well enough to know that you will have your diet and workout g2g along with it. But for those that may not know this cycle would go along with a mixed workout of low volume very high intensity and med volume very high intensity. You would want your bod comp to be 12-14% beginning this. At the end you would easily bir 10 or less.
Here you go bro!
(I would not use the slin as I know that Im not ready for it)

Week 1-4 Test Prop 100mg MWF
Week 1-4 Dbol 50mg/d
Week 22-27 Var 60mg/d

Week 1-6 Test E 1250mg/w
Week 7-12 Test E 1000mg/w
Week 13-18 Test E 750mg/w
Week 19-24 Test E 500mg/w

Week 1-8 Deca 600mg/w
Week 9-16 Deca 800mg/w
Week 17-24 Deca 1000mg/w

Week 1-12 GH54ius ED
Week 17-20 GH 5ius ED

Week 13-16, 21-24 GH 10ius MWF, 10ius Slin 3x a day TuTh

Week 1-24 Proviron 50mg/d, HCG 250iu EOD, Aromasin 12.5-25mg ED, Caber .5mg 2x a week
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Looks fantastic, Zed would you cruise on the Gh after the cycle?
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

damn zed. i can run that have it on hand right now...

considering... nope.. taking it to 1000mg i've done that in the past and i'm old.. will continue on planned coarse..

but i like the cycle..

Thanks bro. Im really looking forward to this one. Gonna do it all right too man. Right now seriously working on my cardio and dumping some body fat.

The cardio that Im doing is short and max effort blast 2x/week with a 2 mile run on the weekend.
 
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Arabian: go for some primo .....test, tbol ,primo
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

Arabian said:
Looks fantastic, Zed would you cruise on the Gh after the cycle?
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Hey bro, would cruize on my norm HRT ( 200 mgs Test D, 150-200 mgs Deca,) and then would eigher go with either 600 mgs primo like Im on now or the GH.
Ive never used GH before so I cant really say right now. It just depends on the results that I get from it.
 
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zedhed said:
Hey bro, would cruize on my norm HRT ( 200 mgs Test D, 150-200 mgs Deca,) and then would eigher go with either 600 mgs primo like Im on now or the GH.
Ive never used GH before so I cant really say right now. It just depends on the results that I get from it.
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I like this layout, Zed very nice and have been cruising in the past on an HRT dose of 300 per week.
 
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kc17 said:
Arabian: go for some primo .....test, tbol ,primo
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That looks good to KC, I have never run Primo however I have heard good things about it. Have you ever run it Kc, and at what dose? Thanks Kc . K brother:artist:
 
I have been sitting here for 30 min trying to one up zeds layout but dam bro that is a nice cycle. The only thing I would do is swap out the deca for eq. This would be due to the fact you said without bloat and deca bloats me and I will never run it again. Other than that I am saving his post and going to give that a run next year. Can't wait to see what you end up with Arabian.

Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL
 
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obsessedwliftin said:
I have been sitting here for 30 min trying to one up zeds layout but dam bro that is a nice cycle. The only thing I would do is swap out the deca for eq. This would be due to the fact you said without bloat and deca bloats me and I will never run it again. Other than that I am saving his post and going to give that a run next year. Can't wait to see what you end up with Arabian.

Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL
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I like what he has laid out however that is a tremendous amount of pinning. lololol
 
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Arabian said:
That looks good to KC, I have never run Primo however I have heard good things about it. Have you ever run it Kc, and at what dose? Thanks Kc . K brother:artist:
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No never ran it. But will run it soon though I'm about to start the following cyle next wk:
Dbol, test e , deca , eq.....
 
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kc17 said:
No never ran it. But will run it soon though I'm about to start the following cyle next wk:
Dbol, test e , deca , eq.....
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I have run that combo several times and loved it.. Its a great bulker. Keep your calorie count up and you will see great results KC..:artist:
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

I like the cycle you're on now. Maybe add some Beastdrol...simple yet effective. Everyone's goals are different but IMO if Body Fat is over 10% you should be doing cardio regardless if it's a bulk, cut, or whatever.
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

Money is no object?

200 mgs of Primo a day.

100 mgs of test EOD.

50 GEAR caps a day.

That would produce sick, awesome results.
 
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Nelson Montana said:
Money is no object?

200 mgs of Primo a day.

100 mgs of test EOD.

50 GEAR caps a day.

That would produce sick, awesome results.
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I am definitely going to run Primo and stack with Test. I think that would produce lean keeepable gains.. I am not one to run a lot of different compounds, so the simpler the better for me.. Thanks
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

alexarnett said:
I like the cycle you're on now. Maybe add some Beastdrol...simple yet effective. Everyone's goals are different but IMO if Body Fat is over 10% you should be doing cardio regardless if it's a bulk, cut, or whatever.
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I love the Tren / Test however it leans me out entirely to much.. loll
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

Arabian said:
I am definitely going to run Primo and stack with Test. I think that would produce lean keeepable gains.. I am not one to run a lot of different compounds, so the simpler the better for me.. Thanks
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Make sure you take in plenty of protein with primo . It makes all the difference. And GEAR is the best around. Guys who say it doesn't put on mass simply don't take in enough protein. Eggs, steak, fish, quality shakes and gear. LOTS of IT! It can transform your body.
 
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Nelson Montana said:
Make sure you take in plenty of protein with primo . It makes all the difference. And GEAR is the best around. Guys who say it doesn't put on mass simply don't take in enough protein. Eggs, steak, fish, quality shakes and gear. LOTS of IT! It can transform your body.
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Thank you, Nelson...I will.. I have gear already,
 
zedhed said:
Ok bro, money being no object this cycle will transform you beyond belief. And I know you well enough to know that you will have your diet and workout g2g along with it. But for those that may not know this cycle would go along with a mixed workout of low volume very high intensity and med volume very high intensity. You would want your bod comp to be 12-14% beginning this. At the end you would easily bir 10 or less.
Here you go bro!
(I would not use the slin as I know that Im not ready for it)

Week 1-4 Test Prop 100mg MWF
Week 1-4 Dbol 50mg/d
Week 22-27 Var 60mg/d

Week 1-6 Test E 1250mg/w
Week 7-12 Test E 1000mg/w
Week 13-18 Test E 750mg/w
Week 19-24 Test E 500mg/w

Week 1-8 Deca 600mg/w
Week 9-16 Deca 800mg/w
Week 17-24 Deca 1000mg/w

Week 1-12 GH54ius ED
Week 17-20 GH 5ius ED

Week 13-16, 21-24 GH 10ius MWF, 10ius Slin 3x a day TuTh

Week 1-24 Proviron 50mg/d, HCG 250iu EOD, Aromasin 12.5-25mg ED, Caber .5mg 2x a week
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Def considering this for my next winter bulker !!!!!!
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

My new cycle is this. Just started it yesterday.

1-12: Test E 900mg EW
1-12: EQ 600mg EW
1-6: Tren Ace (Fina) 100mg ED {might extend it to 8 weeks if I am ok}
1-4: Dbol 40mg ED
1-143: HGH 5ius ED {will run as long as financially possible but right now have enough for minimum for 143 weeks at 5ius}

Have Adex, Letrozole (Femara), Bromocriptine, and Clomid on hand. Also will be using HCG mid cycle and PCT. Waiting for HCGenerate to come back in stock, will be using that as well. Take Milk Thistle, Red Yeast Rice, Omega Fat complex, Multi-V, Melantonin, and whatever other support supps I can find or think of.

I also have Anavar on hand and can use it at the end of the cycle but I really doubt that it would make a difference. No winstrol or masteron since I want my joints strong and am trying not to go bald.

Arabian, if you can throw some Tren and HGH in I think you are golden. Just eat like a horse and keep the calories super high. The tren should keep you lean while you just grow in muscle.

Edit: I am not actually using this, my lab rat is. Hopefully he grows big while getting lean.
 
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Also, in regards to the insulin, I don't think there is any reason for it unless you are trying to get your pro card and need that type of mass. The side effects of Test, Tren, etc can all be dealt with. The side effects of insulin could be fatal.

Also, unless you are a top level competitor and need the mass, don't use 'slin since it can make your mid section a bit too large and unpleasant. Just my opinion.
 
stevesmi said:
if money was no option.

var 1-6 60mg/day
primo 1-12 100mg/day
dbol 8-12 20-30mg/day
proviron 8-12 50mg/day
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Switch the var and dbol and add some test and tren to this...that would be my perfect cycle if money was no object.
Also 4-5iu of gh indefinitely.....



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It's not roid rage, I just don't like you...

Bustin' my ass so I can save yours...
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

Best stack is GH/Test/Tren/Anavar. I never felt Primo gives any "keepable" gains, and I've run it at 600mg for a while. I think primo gives you a nice full look and pump, but not much else. And yes, my primo was homebrewed and tested, so it wasn't fake. Test+GH give you the most permanent structural changes. Tren makes you look like a freak, and adding an anabolic like Eq or Anavar takes it to a whole different level.
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

obsessedwliftin said:
I have been sitting here for 30 min trying to one up zeds layout but dam bro that is a nice cycle. The only thing I would do is swap out the deca for eq. This would be due to the fact you said without bloat and deca bloats me and I will never run it again. Other than that I am saving his post and going to give that a run next year. Can't wait to see what you end up with Arabian.

Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL
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I would like to able to take credit for this bro but it was laid out for my by a pro. This is gonna be my mid life transformation, quite literally!
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

Backtobasicks said:
Jeeezus zed, the first 6 weeks is like 2.5 grams of gear a week, that's heavy stuff man. Haha.
But nice set up!
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LOL yeah bro I know. For me this will be a once in a lifetime cycle man. And the best part of it is that I will have diet and workout being scrutenized during the whole time. Also blood test every 6-8 weeks.
For amybody doing a cycle like this you really need to have all the professional help that you can possible get. And you must blood test often!
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

zedhed said:
LOL yeah bro I know. For me this will be a once in a lifetime cycle man. And the best part of it is that I will have diet and workout being scrutenized during the whole time. Also blood test every 6-8 weeks.
For amybody doing a cycle like this you really need to have all the professional help that you can possible get. And you must blood test often!
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I like the cycle :) I can tell that a big boy hooked you up with that plan since I usually hear cycles similiar to this from the competitors.

Just make sure you EAT :chomp:

Any reason Deca over Tren?
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

My bread and butter-

Week 1-25 Test Cyp 1000 mg/week
1-18 Deca 800 mg/week
Suspension 500 mg/week
(1-5)Dbol 60 mg/week
(20-25)Anadrol 100mg/day
HGH 5iu/day
(18-25) NPP 500mg/week

Water weight can be kept to a min with proper diet and AI,PCT of choice(we all have our own opinions on this matter)And of course caber,prov,hcg(not to exceed 500iu a week while on),nolva,clomid,arom,etc.
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

zedhed said:
Ok bro, money being no object this cycle will transform you beyond belief. And I know you well enough to know that you will have your diet and workout g2g along with it. But for those that may not know this cycle would go along with a mixed workout of low volume very high intensity and med volume very high intensity. You would want your bod comp to be 12-14% beginning this. At the end you would easily bir 10 or less.
Here you go bro!
(I would not use the slin as I know that Im not ready for it)

Week 1-4 Test Prop 100mg MWF
Week 1-4 Dbol 50mg/d
Week 22-27 Var 60mg/d

Week 1-6 Test E 1250mg/w
Week 7-12 Test E 1000mg/w
Week 13-18 Test E 750mg/w
Week 19-24 Test E 500mg/w

Week 1-8 Deca 600mg/w
Week 9-16 Deca 800mg/w
Week 17-24 Deca 1000mg/w

Week 1-12 GH54ius ED
Week 17-20 GH 5ius ED

Week 13-16, 21-24 GH 10ius MWF, 10ius Slin 3x a day TuTh

Week 1-24 Proviron 50mg/d, HCG 250iu EOD, Aromasin 12.5-25mg ED, Caber .5mg 2x a week
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I'd run Masteron E with that cycle at 1000mg/week and drop the cabaser, and aromasin if I could (probably not possible dropping the aromasin because of the HCG).
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

FLEX4USML said:
My bread and butter-

Week 1-25 Test Cyp 1000 mg/week
1-18 Deca 800 mg/week
Suspension 500 mg/week
(1-5)Dbol 60 mg/week
(20-25)Anadrol 100mg/day
HGH 5iu/day
(18-25) NPP 500mg/week

Water weight can be kept to a min with proper diet and AI,PCT of choice(we all have our own opinions on this matter)And of course caber,prov,hcg(not to exceed 500iu a week while on),nolva,clomid,arom,etc.
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Looks good! Why do you run your adrol at the end of the cycle ? It looks like that would bloat you ? Thanks
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

diet:

days 1-5 under 30 grams of carbs total each day (load up on your psyllium husk powder). My proteins would be from filet mignon, eggs, chicken, pork, bacon, fish etc. Any greens, lots of EFA's.
day 6 carb up, anything goes.
days 7 and on: low-carb throughout the day, carbs post workout
every 7 days carb up

We aim to teach the body how to utilize carbs more appropriately (towards muscle growth instead of fat). I wouldn't go over one scoop of protein powder a day on this diet, real food is better anyway.

If $$ wasn't an issue then I'd have a chef cook all this shit for me too.

Cycle:

weeks 1-20:
Test E 750mg/week
Mast E 750mg/week
Primo E 750mg/week
(deca and tren would be more effective mass builders than what I have outlined, but I hate the way they make me feel)

My choice orals are tbol, var, winny and halo.
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

Arabian said:
Looks good! Why do you run your adrol at the end of the cycle ? It looks like that would bloat you ? Thanks
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I really just like it to finish as big as possible,if diet is 100% on point the bloats not that bad,it does my face a little but a few days a week in the sauna will suck the water out of your face.The size and strength from this cycle is insane,wait 60 days and hit a good prop/tren/mast cycle and your a greek god.
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

ConanX said:
I like the cycle :) I can tell that a big boy hooked you up with that plan since I usually hear cycles similiar to this from the competitors.

Just make sure you EAT :chomp:

Any reason Deca over Tren?
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For me specifically bro I have joint and soft tissue issues so the Deca def over the tren. At those amounts of Deca def will be much easiner on my joint as the weights go up big time.

"Just make sure you EAT :chomp:"
In a nutshell you said a mouth full right there bro!:evil:

 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

I like the layout.... your a human pin cushion but jesus thats gonna make a huuuuge transformation... I have to agree with obsessed Im a fan of eq and think it might better suit what your doing/shotting for. Other than that seems like a turbocharged bulker.... Id love to see progression pics of this cycle if done.
 
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Im liking the 750 per week Test and 1000 per week Primo for 20..
 
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zedhed...why pyramid the test and deca up and down? just curious
 
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*drool* theres some serious big boy cycles! respect guys very informative and confusing as shit at the same time haha!
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

I running this in the spring regardless of money issues.

1-14 300 mgs test e
1-14 800 mgs eq
1-12 400 mgs tren e
8-14 100 mgs of winny tabs ED
 
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ledhead said:
I running this in the spring regardless of money issues.

1-14 300 mgs test e
1-14 800 mgs eq
1-12 400 mgs tren e
8-14 100 mgs of winny tabs ED
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At least you won't go broke on something like that and you should grow like crazy. You can always substitute the winny for Masteron and use it earlier in the cycle to combat some tren sides.
 
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ledhead said:
I running this in the spring regardless of money issues.

1-14 300 mgs test e
1-14 800 mgs eq
1-12 400 mgs tren e
8-14 100 mgs of winny tabs ED
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Great looking cycle. Should lean you out nicely.
 
Arabian if money is no option here's a cycle I got from a pro bber

1000-1500mg test e week 1-16
500-750mg deca week 1-14
800-1000mg eq week 1-14
150-200mg test prop eod 16-18
100-150mg tren ace eod 12-18
40-50mg dbol ed week 1-4
500iu hcg e5d
20mg nolva ed week 2-18
 
smacky1987 said:
Arabian if money is no option here's a cycle I got from a pro bber

1000-1500mg test e week 1-16
500-750mg deca week 1-14
800-1000mg eq week 1-14
150-200mg test prop eod 16-18
100-150mg tren ace eod 12-18
40-50mg dbol ed week 1-4
500iu hcg e5d
20mg nolva ed week 2-18
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Nolva with tren and deca...bad idea



---------------------------------
It's not roid rage, I just don't like you...

Bustin' my ass so I can save yours...
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

msinnott1000 said:
Love to give you some input but idk squat about roids...so that being said, I'll just say Good Luck!!
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Thank you for your response. You should hang out on the forums and learn about all aspects of your training. Elite Fitness is the BEST forum on the net for Diet,Training,AAS as well as an array of other forums. Elite Fitness has the most professional, nicest and most knowledgeable members anywhere. Welcome
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

1-20 Test E 500/wk
1-3 Test suspensions 50-100mg 2 hours pre workout
1-19 EQ 800/wk
1-12 NPP 500/wk
13-20(22 if ace) Tren E/Ace 4-500/wk
1-20 Mast E 500/wk
14-22 Anavar 60-80mg/day
1-26 4-6iu ed HGH

aromasin 12.5-25mg ED, caber .5mg 2x/wk,

Substitute EQ for primo if desired.
Maybe pyramid test/eq up a 1/3 after 10 weeks. 750/1000
Also if on HRT, then adjust to end everything on week 20.
Enan (mast/tren) for pinning less, unless you don't care to be a pin cushion. then adjust for ace.
Maybe a dbol kicker or tbol depending on preference.
Also maybe proviron 50mg/day instead of mast e if you don't want to pin that much.

I'm thinking that would cause some serious lbm growth and end up with a real nice hard body and really low bf% plus vascularity up the wahzoo.
Totally hypothetical, never ran it, but I'm curious what one would think. This would be for advanced users and most likely HRT pct.
 
Re: Money being no object design a 20 week cycle that concentrates on lean muscle mas

bader85 said:
1-20 Test E 500/wk
1-3 Test suspensions 50-100mg 2 hours pre workout
1-19 EQ 800/wk
1-12 NPP 500/wk
13-20(22 if ace) Tren E/Ace 4-500/wk
1-20 Mast E 500/wk
14-22 Anavar 60-80mg/day
1-26 4-6iu ed HGH

aromasin 12.5-25mg ED, caber .5mg 2x/wk,

Substitute EQ for primo if desired.
Maybe pyramid test/eq up a 1/3 after 10 weeks. 750/1000
Also if on HRT, then adjust to end everything on week 20.
Enan (mast/tren) for pinning less, unless you don't care to be a pin cushion. then adjust for ace.
Maybe a dbol kicker or tbol depending on preference.
Also maybe proviron 50mg/day instead of mast e if you don't want to pin that much.

I'm thinking that would cause some serious lbm growth and end up with a real nice hard body and really low bf% plus vascularity up the wahzoo.
Totally hypothetical, never ran it, but I'm curious what one would think. This would be for advanced users and most likely HRT pct.
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There you go Bader, great cycle pal...
 
Arabian said:
Thank you for your response. You should hang out on the forums and learn about all aspects of your training. Elite Fitness is the BEST forum on the net for Diet,Training,AAS as well as an array of other forums. Elite Fitness has the most professional, nicest and most knowledgeable members anywhere. Welcome
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Thanks bro! Yeah a buddy recommended it to me this past summer. Since them I downloaded the app for the iPhone and am on it for at least 30 min everyday, I've already collaborated with some of the big time users for diet, training an Supp advice. I'm light years ahead of where I was before. EF is just a tree of knowledge!

Thanks
 
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msinnott1000 said:
Thanks bro! Yeah a buddy recommended it to me this past summer. Since them I downloaded the app for the iPhone and am on it for at least 30 min everyday, I've already collaborated with some of the big time users for diet, training an Supp advice. I'm light years ahead of where I was before. EF is just a tree of knowledge!

Thanks
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Thats fantastic.. Im delighted to hear this. :artist:
 
smacky1987 said:
I have used nolva with both deca and tren(not at same time) and never had any problems
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Based on the fact that nolva can increase progesterone sides I would consider myself lucky. Not that it wont happen. Just that it didn't happen that time bro. Nolva with either of those compounds is like playing Russian roulette. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

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