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[mm107]

Ok, guys Im starting the 5x5 today. Im starting on “Wednesday” On the 5x5 plan.


Monday’s Routine
Squat
5 x 116
5 x 145
5 x 174
5 x 203
5 x 232


Bench
5 x 98
5 x 123
5 x 147
5 x 172
5 x 196

Row
5 x 63
5 x 78
5 x 94
5 x 109
5 x 125

Assitance Work:
2 sets of weighted hypers
4 sets of weighted situps


Wednesday’s Routine
Squat:
5 x 116
5 x 145
5 x 174
5 x 174

Incline (dumbbell)
5 x 52
5 x 63
5 x 73
5 x 83

Deadlift
5 x 218
5 x 261
5 x 305
5 x 348

Assistance Work:
3 sets of Sit-ups

Instead of Doing weighted Situps, Like im supposed, to because I did them yesterday, im going to Do some Cardio(I hope) Or should I crush them again?


Friday’s Routine

Squat
5 x 116
5 x 145
5 x 174
5 x 203
3 x 238
8 x 174

Bench
5 x 98
5 x 123
5 x 147
5 x 172
3 x 201
8 x 147


Row
5 x 63
5 x 78
5 x 94
5 x 109
3 x 128
8 x 94

Assistance Work:
3 sets of weighted dips ( 5 – 8 rep range )
3 sets of Barbell Curls x 8 reps
3 sets of tricep extensions x 8

Now here is where I get curous, Im making this routine, basically cookie cutter from madcow’s template. Do I/Can I, do some more work, such as JM Presses, etc? I just feel that this 5x5 idea lacks, Shoulders, Triceps, Lats, ETC.

I know on paper it looks a lot easier then it really is. But I just don’t feel it really hits ALL muscles, someone PLEASE SHUT ME UP. And set me straight with the 5x5 plan.

Also, can I do any work, in place of the assistance work? If anyone wants to help me fine tune, the 5x5, please do so!! Im really looking for some help.

 

[Shades McCool]

Well I know that deadlifting and rowing is definetly going to get your lats really well. On top of that the flat and incline work will hit the triceps some along with the Friday tricep work. Shoulers will get hit by incline and flat along with the deadlifting.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

Ok, guys Im starting the 5x5 today. Im starting on “Wednesday” On the 5x5 plan.

Now here is where I get curous, Im making this routine, basically cookie cutter from madcow’s template. Do I/Can I, do some more work, such as JM Presses, etc? I just feel that this 5x5 idea lacks, Shoulders, Triceps, Lats, ETC.

I know on paper it looks a lot easier then it really is. But I just don’t feel it really hits ALL muscles, someone PLEASE SHUT ME UP. And set me straight with the 5x5 plan.

Also, can I do any work, in place of the assistance work? If anyone wants to help me fine tune, the 5x5, please do so!! Im really looking for some help.

awesome.

Assistance work... well you want to make it into a BB routine? Your 5x5 numbers will suffer.

And that's what the 5x5 is about... numbers, increasing strength... not balancing a physique.

You are still confused on what you want to accomplish, lol... hell give it a whirl... you'll just need to eat more than your going to on a cutting regimine I think.

 

[BiggT]

mm....don't worry about assistance, the sooner you get rid of excess beach work, the sooner you'll realize how little it does.

It is tough for a lot of guys to drop the idea of training 'bodyparts' and think in terms of 'movements' but it is sufficient work. Pressing works the shoulders plenty, rowing and deadlifts are all the back work you'll ever need. If you want my opinion, bag the triceps extensions, dips are plenty for the triceps with all the pressing.......seriously, take my word for it, most guys have no idea how useless all the lat pulldowns, kickbacks, crossovers, flyes, etc etc are until they drop them and see that adding weight to the bar in big lifts and eating according to your goals make up 99% of this....you'll seriously laugh at all the fruits wasting their time on the crossover machine, peck deck, and worrying that maybe they'd have bigger pecs if they did flyes with cables and a supinated grip etc etc.

As far as stuff like lockouts and JM presses, they are legit movements to address weaknesses that crop up over time, but not really necessary right now with this type of a routine.....they have a place, in my opinion with more of an upper/lower type split.....but right now, just give this a go as is and I think you'll like the results.

 

[mm107]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to BiggT again.

Now thats an answeer i needed, a nice smack in the fact for reality. You just really saved my brain!!

Thanks BIG TT! Looks like its time to kick that 5x5 into effect.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

BiggT... nice!

Get to the 5x5 MM

 

[mm107]

Hey everyone, As of yesterday, I went onto the 5x5 plan.

Monday’s Routine
Squat
5 x 116
5 x 145
5 x 174
5 x 203
5 x 232


Bench
5 x 98
5 x 123
5 x 147
5 x 172
5 x 196

Row
5 x 90
5 x 135
5 x 135
5 x 135
5 x 90

I was on the 5x5, its going to take couple of weeks for me to get mentality adjusted. Instead of just stopping after this, we went ahead and did incline bench(partner was being very stubborn, and I kinda felt like I wanted to do some anyway)

Now, here comes the questions for the 5x5 pros

See how it is more for a REAL Powerlifter, its not going for anything cosmetic. Now would I be able to modify each day, in a different way?

I will not substitute, the bench/row/squat with anything. Just want to ADD onto the workout. Like Some dumbell benching sets afterwards, or some lockouts from the pins?

I know the workload will be taxing, but maybe just something for weeks 1-3 for a mental boost. But in no way would I come in on an off day and train. Just basically little extra workout related excercises for more of a “cosmetic” effect.

The 5x5 started out easy, very light weight, 100lbs on the bench for set 1, mentally it didn’t feel like much, but for the last set of 5x200, I only got the bar up 4 times. So I think I have something here.


Dinner was great last night, After the 5x5, I had the pwos, then about 1hr later, had porkschops / rice. I know not the best but they were lean(kinda), and I devourse 6 big pork chops.

Also, the ECA + YES was almost delivered yesterday, but no one was home to sign for it. So today, im gonna go pick up the eca from the USPS, and YES from UPS. So basically I should have a very nice Cardio day.

Im off from the 5x5 till Friday, So im gonna KILL ABS today, seriously going to give them their OWN workout today. One of my boys, has a nice set of abs, and they come out far, and I want that bad. I love when the abs stick out alittle.

 

[BiggT]

Don't forget that cosmetic effects are all about the kitchen, not what you do in the gym.....I'd be careful the first time through adding too much.....remember, if you bench on Mon, incline on Wed, and bench again on Fri, that IS a lot of work.....the workload is measured long-term, week to week, month to month, it isn't about 'blasting' it in one workout.

What I ususally would tell guys having a hard time not leaving the gym 'pumped' is to do 2 sets of 20 incline dumbells at the end on Mon's workout.....and 3 sets of curls and 3 sets of dips or something for triceps after friday's workout.....that is pretty harmless......but if you tap into your recovery doing unnecessary stuff, it won't work like it's supposed to.

Plus, with week 4 weights, you won't even be able to incline worth shit after you bench.

 

[mm107]

beautiful big, im sorry i might get annoying, im just learning this whole progressive training, etc.

Ill def listen to the big dawgs on this one, thats why im asking so much..

thanks tho bigt!

 

[xblitz44x]

The 5x5 started out easy, very light weight, 100lbs on the bench for set 1, mentally it didn’t feel like much, but for the last set of 5x200, I only got the bar up 4 times. So I think I have something here.

MM are you saying that you couldn't do the full 5 reps at 200 (or 196)? If so I suggest you start again and reramp because you've started too heavy. The first 3-4 weeks you should be building 'momentum' so when you get to your true PR you can roll right through it. Forgive me if I misunderstood your post and if you got all 5 reps then you can disregard this.

Good job going with the 5x5.