List your foods that are no no's when cutting...

[Vageta]

Rookie half of what you just listed is on my normal diet plan hehe. However at the moment I've cut them out to see what kind of impact they will make on my fat loss. Form me dieting is always an experiment to see what makes the most impact.

My normal diet consists of bread, milk, cheese, cereal(usually post workout), starchy foods(white potatoes) and occasionally pasta. I do however stay away from any liquid calories other than protein drinks as they are dangerous.

And yes I do lose weight with this diet however my hydration levels fluctuate a lot due to the sodium so it's hard to gauge weekly fat loss. That's why I break out my trusty calipers.

 

[manny78]

pasta, beer, damn french fries, all my mexican food (fajitas, tacos, burritos), fast food as possible even if it hurts lol for the rest i'm ok

 

[diamonddiceclay]

SIMPLY CUT OUT ALL CARBS FOR THE 1ST 5 DAYS OF EVERY WEEK AND LOAD CARBS ON SAT/SUN

 

[dngu047]

I'll include a new perspective...a snippet from Lyle McDonald (who, in case you don't know wrote *THE* book on ketogenic dieting)


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> So assuming that one eats enought protein and fat
> to maintain muscle, can someone tell me why low-carb or ketogenic diets are
> "the thing"?

They control appetite, they remove diet breaker foods.
In certain individuals (>15 but less than <40% bodyfat) they have
slightly protein sparing effects.
But that is all. They are a fad that works for some, not for others.
That is all.
They have no inherent benefit beyond psychological/appetite issues for
most individuals.

> Heck, I've even DONE them, and now I'm wondering what the
> advantage was supposed to be. If muscle can be reasonably maintained through
> exercise and protein/fat even during a caloric deficit (I know, I know,
> dieting is "by definition catabolic"), then why not go ahead and eat the
> rest of your budget with more pleasant foods?

You haven't been reading anything i've written in the last 4 months have you?
I will contend that, given sufficent protein and EFA's, you can get
ripped on table sugar.

Appetite will be the determining factor.
Because 80% of the variance in what you lose (bodyfat vs. muscle) is NOT
determined by diet, it's determined by your body. Once you meet certain
requirements (protein, EFA, calories, weight training), the rest of your
diet means nothing outside of it's ability to meete appetite and
psychological needs (and exercise prformance).

> If you are still gonna cut fat
> because of the deficit, why not go ahead and have a bowl of Golden Grahams
> for breakfast, chicken fajitas with cheese and sour cream, KK's, etc. once
> in a while?
>
Because it makes it harder to control calories because of appetite issues.
That's it.

> Keep in mind, I'm being theoretical. Anyone who knows me at all knows that
> my diet is something I'm quite strict about, but the question remains: is it
> possible to eat junkfoods in a so-called "cutting phase" as long as the
> calories are painstakingly considered and kept at a 500-1000 a day deficit?

I believe so, as long as appetite can be controlled.

Lyle

 

[absolute hardgainer]

Try to live on air alone...
Seriously, cut out junk, sugar and cut down on carbs... no carbs at all, uhmmm I dunno about that.

hardgainer (!)

 

[cozmokramer]

I thought it would be hard but I've managed to cut out
all carbs and it really has made a difference to me...

its the one thing that really has worked... and worked
fast!

 

[latinhire]

Cutting CArbs??

WHat about Complex Carbs, like Vegetables. I know not to eat the sugars ( lactose, fructose and sucrose) but keeping out ALL CARBS?? I dont know about that... Whats wrong with Fibrous carbs from vegetables...or maybe i should ask...What is No carbs...less than 30 Grams or do you mean ABSOULUTE 0!!

 

[Winstrol the Pooh]

You guys that cut out carbs completely...I don't know how you do it. A couple cutting cycles ago I dropped my carbs to around 50 grams a day and had a hell of a time concentrating. My muscle fullness went to crap and I couldn't even make it all the way through a full night of sleep without waking every 30 minutes to an hour. If you guys are dropping carbs completely then what are you using to fuel your workouts?...what are you using to replenish glycogen stores after you finish a workout? If it works for you great, but I need my carbs to spare major muscle tissue loss and keep at least some of my wits throughout the day (cause I don't have many wits to spare)

 

[M56M]

I don't understand....

cozmokramer ,

Don't you need carbs post workout to restore glocygen(sp) levels in the muscle? Isn't this important to help maintain existing muscle and build new muslce? And since you body is using these carbs for muscle isn't it safe to assume that they are not effecting you fat loss?

Thanks for the help.
M56M

 

[cozmokramer]

can you accurately measure how much carbs your muscles are
using and then intake exactly that amount? I don't think so!

You can however take in carbs for just 24 hours on Saturday
just to refill glycogen stores and that should be enough
to get through your workouts on monday - thursday...

then don't have any carbs the rest of the week to get the
full advantage of KETOSIS (the burning of fat for fuel)...

CKD... search and read about it