There are so many different stacks for so many goals for LBM, that I thought there should be a sane, but effective stack for people like us. First of all, I would guess that all of the oral steroids would be out because of being too harsh on your liver. Then, there is the question about the Test part of the stack. Should you go with testoderm patch or Androgel or a injectable. Then there should be a couple of pretty good anabolic steroids that are less harsh on your liver than the average steroid. I'm going to dive into my limited books on steroids and see what I can find. I bet you folks out there know more than me and could give us some ideas. Am I out of line here, or does this make sense? What do you think 21? Hope to hear from folks soon, Alan.