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Just doing a little reminiscing and its crazy to think about some EF histories.

remember when needto came here, just cause he neededtogetaas, and he was a cook. he was all like, hey i like cooking, i like lifting, and he wrote anabolic kitchen. it was a great hit. he was still rollin with the C&C regulars, throwin bombs with the bomb squaid, having lols with wootoom. and then he was like

hey, i made some protein bars, and then he started sellin those. thats when he became a hit, and slowly started adding products and supplements to his name, and next thing ya know, the dude went from a cookbook, to a full blown supplement line, and business, and is practically running EF.

just goes to show, all you have to have is a passion, and a drive to succeed, and maybe add a lil peanutbutter, and all your dreams can come true.

have any of you really thought about how inspirational his story is? i guess i didnt really have full grasp or appreciation for his climb until i was thinking about the history of EF earlier today and the people i'v met from here, and how awesome it is that we can all be so different, and still all be so passionate for fitness and have it bring us together like this.
 
Too bad no one outside the underground roid scene will give a shit because its involving roids and stuff

but yea its cool shit
 
Yeah it was pretty cool to see needto rise from a normal guy on EF to the owner of a reputable company with products that actually work...still one of the most helpful people around too. Very inspiring!
 
Too bad no one outside the underground roid scene will give a shit because its involving roids and stuff

but yea its cool shit

well yeah, but why would anyone who isnt into fitness and supplements care about someone rising in such a fashion?

i dont care about a barbiedoll toy designer becoming successful with her new brand of multi racial dolls, because that shit is gay to me
 
well yeah, but why would anyone who isnt into fitness and supplements care about someone rising in such a fashion?

i dont care about a barbiedoll toy designer becoming successful with her new brand of multi racial dolls, because that shit is gay to me

Yea but needto still makes a great human interest story for main stream internet news outlets and such. Like all those blurbs on Yahoo or cnn or fox like "Disabled vet starts supplement business from scratch, builds into empire"

Wont happen though.
 
Good times Subzero!!!!! Remember all I would ever say to you "sub zero...wins...."
 
anyone ever see the video with the retard in the superman outfit having the dog lick peanut butter out his asshole in the big split around his ass crack
 
Its very inspirational. He's a down to earth real guy too who cares a hell of a lot about what he does and helping others. Lot of common sense. Good Bro material for sure.
 
You gotta warsh your hands after jerking off with peanut butter before operating your laptop/VCR bor
 
Its very inspirational. He's a down to earth real guy too who cares a hell of a lot about what he does and helping others. Lot of common sense. Good Bro material for sure.

agreed.

I've said this (what subz said basically) before too.

No one would have ever thought 6 years ago that needto would be where he's at today just judging him by what they knew here. As a matter of fact he would have been bottom of that list. Least likely to...

From getting to know him better over the last couple years, I can honestly say he cares about his products and he cares about people. He wants to be sure that he is putting out the best products possible or he won't make it. Some of the products he's talked about that still haven't came out are because he can't get it done the way he wants it. If it isn't the best he will put it on the shelf until he can make it the best.

The man has also done some things that no one else had done before him in this world of BBing/Fitness Forums. He has his hands in almost everything here, and across several boards like this all over the net. He basically did it all just by starting to help people and not getting a dime from it. He helped people get what they needed and he is still helping people. He's also helping businesses. Some of the sponsors here are successful because of needto.

I've looked back over it many times and every time I say the same thing. Damn, I wish I had thought to do all that. I'd say it's a pretty inspiring story.

And his protein bars are the best tasting bars I've ever had.

**EDIT** I tried to find the "Just Add Peanut Butter" kitteh pic that ATW made, but couldn't. :(
 
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i wasnt here yet to see n2 bombing away and fighting with u mofo's daily in c&c.. wish i was around would have been fun to bomb the shyt out of n2 or join him bombing one of u mo's

was around to see him go from a reg helping member to rep to mod to cookbook maker to company owner.shit i remember all of us making n2 for mod threads in the aas section all time time like it was yesterday lolol .all happened pretty fuxing fast.. great story for sho..
 
I remember his spelling used to be atrocious too due to some old war injury? He must have invested in spell check during his rise in the ranks. He's a solid bro for sure.

This thread makes me want to free base some clomid
 
agreed.

I've said this (what subz said basically) before too.

No one would have ever thought 6 years ago that needto would be where he's at today just judging him by what they knew here. As a matter of fact he would have been bottom of that list. Least likely to...

From getting to know him better over the last couple years, I can honestly say he cares about his products and he cares about people. He wants to be sure that he is putting out the best products possible or he won't make it. Some of the products he's talked about that still haven't came out are because he can't get it done the way he wants it. If it isn't the best he will put it on the shelf until he can make it the best.

The man has also done some things that no one else had done before him in this world of BBing/Fitness Forums. He has his hands in almost everything here, and across several boards like this all over the net. He basically did it all just by starting to help people and not getting a dime from it. He helped people get what they needed and he is still helping people. He's also helping businesses. Some of the sponsors here are successful because of needto.

I've looked back over it many times and every time I say the same thing. Damn, I wish I had thought to do all that. I'd say it's a pretty inspiring story.

And his protein bars are the best tasting bars I've ever had.

**EDIT** I tried to find the "Just Add Peanut Butter" kitteh pic that ATW made, but couldn't. :(

i bolded the parts i agree with the mostest
 
i bolded the parts i agree with the mostest

you forgot to bold the "Just Add Peanut Butter" kitteh pic part.

Too bad I can't find that pic. Too bad ATW can't get into his photobucket acct.

Plank!! Hack that account!
 
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Needto is a good egg in my book
Always has been a funny bastard, too bad he's busy and doesn't post moar
 
Simply put he has made a huge impact on the board and his supp company is on the rise.
 
Hey subs thanks for the thread man. It has been a long rode with many many more miles to go. My first few years on elite I was just a angry person. I was pissed off with how my life was turning out , and all the things that had happen to me the last few years. I was angry I got hurt, angry the army would not let me back in because of it. I liked cooking but hated working chef hours and everything about working in restaurants. I pretty much stayed drunk , even worked drunk most of the time. Of course that landed me in a lot of trouble and my poor wife had to watch my downward spiral of a life.

Elite fitness kept me alive through that time in my life. You guys here kept me going and more then likely kept me out of spending the rest of my life in prison. I had a place to let out everything I was dealing with. I came here looking for steroids and found a place to tell the world I hated it!Hated my life , hated the world and everything in it. I wanted to escape reality so I drank and posted on elite any chance I could get. That person was not the real person I was though. It was me at my worst , down and out. That was me giving up on me and calling it quits.

I could not be more happy that I finely pulled my self out of that place. I guess it takes reaching bottom before you do something about it. To all the people I hurt , talked shit to, attacked or was a dick to back then I am sorry. I was just letting out my anger on this place and the people here. When I quite drinking and got my life back together I still had a deep love for this site and the people here. When some one walks with you through the toughest parts of your life you cant help but grow attached to them as well as feel like you owe them something for it. Many here prob never knew that's what life was like for me or knew what I was going though. Shit chat was not a place you let shit like that out.

I have always enjoyed doing things for others. Its one of the main reasons I liked cooking. So That is what I started to do here on elite once I stop drinking and got things in order. I liked helping all the members here, loved the site and enjoyed my life again. Shortly after I started working for some of the sponsors here on the site ( the ones I believed in and felt strong about)and just so happens I was good at doing it.
So I made some good money doing it. The better I got at working as a rep the more money I made till I finely said " what the hell am I working as a chef for? I like being on elite more, I get to help more people, and I make more money doing it". So I quite my job and went to working online full time.

I have never has to much passion as I do for this site and the peole here on this site. I owe everything to this site and I am forever in debt to this site and the members who come here each day. Working as a rep for other companies taught me that most companies in this industry are fucked up. They dont really give a damn about anyone but the money they make off them. Bottom dollar is all that matters. I few places started off
acting as if they gave a shit about the site. In fact they almost have to but I have seen so many places pass through elite.. Tell me they care about the site and its members and then soon as they make it big its fuck elitefitness. Screw the members!! I have seen the inner workings of many companies and the number 1 reason I was never hired by many of them is because I cared to damn much about the people. I wanted to give refunds and they didn't. I did not like some bull shit product they were about to make and they did.

I got sick of watching this shit go on in front of my face so I formed NTBM . I started with protein bars because food is what I knew best. After that time just kind of flew by and 3-4 years later here I am. Since the day I made up my mind to stop drinking and make something of my life again. I have worked for some of the largest companies in the industry. I have a published book and many published Articles. I own my own and parts/percentages of 10 other companies, I have my own Media company, I MMA gym and soon to be needtobuildmuscles first physical store location opens in a month or so. A brand new facility complete with a smoothy bar/snake counter and supplement store.

I am always going to be grateful for what I have and I know where I come from. I do my best to remain humble. I always remember that I was one ban away from having nothing. Just imagine if anyone of the mods back in the day had decided they wanted to ban me and keep me banned? HA HA I am betting more then a few are wishing they had done that when they had the chance lmao. I was always one drunk night away from spending the rest of my life in jail. My life is the way it is because I was given a chance by the right people at the right place at the right time. Thats why I work so hard to this very day. If I forget I am not really anything all that special then I may just lose my fire! I see the threads, here what people say but I never let it make me think I am any better then the rest of the people who post here today..

Anyone of the posters in this thread could be me right now. I hope to stay around for a very long time if nor forever though. I dont want to be the last big name that passed through elite, or the last sponsor who passed through the doors. So I no matter how big I think I am I will do the same thing I have been doing here for years. Help the people and do things right. Treat people the best I can , make the best products I can, Respect everyone and treat all as my friends because that is what everyone here is.

Thanks for everything guys . You all rules!!!!
 
Hey subs thanks for the thread man. It has been a long rode with many many more miles to go. My first few years on elite I was just a angry person. I was pissed off with how my life was turning out , and all the things that had happen to me the last few years. I was angry I got hurt, angry the army would not let me back in because of it. I liked cooking but hated working chef hours and everything about working in restaurants. I pretty much stayed drunk , even worked drunk most of the time. Of course that landed me in a lot of trouble and my poor wife had to watch my downward spiral of a life.

Elite fitness kept me alive through that time in my life. You guys here kept me going and more then likely kept me out of spending the rest of my life in prison. I had a place to let out everything I was dealing with. I came here looking for steroids and found a place to tell the world I hated it!Hated my life , hated the world and everything in it. I wanted to escape reality so I drank and posted on elite any chance I could get. That person was not the real person I was though. It was me at my worst , down and out. That was me giving up on me and calling it quits.

I could not be more happy that I finely pulled my self out of that place. I guess it takes reaching bottom before you do something about it. To all the people I hurt , talked shit to, attacked or was a dick to back then I am sorry. I was just letting out my anger on this place and the people here. When I quite drinking and got my life back together I still had a deep love for this site and the people here. When some one walks with you through the toughest parts of your life you cant help but grow attached to them as well as feel like you owe them something for it. Many here prob never knew that's what life was like for me or knew what I was going though. Shit chat was not a place you let shit like that out.

I have always enjoyed doing things for others. Its one of the main reasons I liked cooking. So That is what I started to do here on elite once I stop drinking and got things in order. I liked helping all the members here, loved the site and enjoyed my life again. Shortly after I started working for some of the sponsors here on the site ( the ones I believed in and felt strong about)and just so happens I was good at doing it.
So I made some good money doing it. The better I got at working as a rep the more money I made till I finely said " what the hell am I working as a chef for? I like being on elite more, I get to help more people, and I make more money doing it". So I quite my job and went to working online full time.

I have never has to much passion as I do for this site and the peole here on this site. I owe everything to this site and I am forever in debt to this site and the members who come here each day. Working as a rep for other companies taught me that most companies in this industry are fucked up. They dont really give a damn about anyone but the money they make off them. Bottom dollar is all that matters. I few places started off
acting as if they gave a shit about the site. In fact they almost have to but I have seen so many places pass through elite.. Tell me they care about the site and its members and then soon as they make it big its fuck elitefitness. Screw the members!! I have seen the inner workings of many companies and the number 1 reason I was never hired by many of them is because I cared to damn much about the people. I wanted to give refunds and they didn't. I did not like some bull shit product they were about to make and they did.

I got sick of watching this shit go on in front of my face so I formed NTBM . I started with protein bars because food is what I knew best. After that time just kind of flew by and 3-4 years later here I am. Since the day I made up my mind to stop drinking and make something of my life again. I have worked for some of the largest companies in the industry. I have a published book and many published Articles. I own my own and parts/percentages of 10 other companies, I have my own Media company, I MMA gym and soon to be needtobuildmuscles first physical store location opens in a month or so. A brand new facility complete with a smoothy bar/snake counter and supplement store.

I am always going to be grateful for what I have and I know where I come from. I do my best to remain humble. I always remember that I was one ban away from having nothing. Just imagine if anyone of the mods back in the day had decided they wanted to ban me and keep me banned? HA HA I am betting more then a few are wishing they had done that when they had the chance lmao. I was always one drunk night away from spending the rest of my life in jail. My life is the way it is because I was given a chance by the right people at the right place at the right time. Thats why I work so hard to this very day. If I forget I am not really anything all that special then I may just lose my fire! I see the threads, here what people say but I never let it make me think I am any better then the rest of the people who post here today..

Anyone of the posters in this thread could be me right now. I hope to stay around for a very long time if nor forever though. I dont want to be the last big name that passed through elite, or the last sponsor who passed through the doors. So I no matter how big I think I am I will do the same thing I have been doing here for years. Help the people and do things right. Treat people the best I can , make the best products I can, Respect everyone and treat all as my friends because that is what everyone here is.

Thanks for everything guys . You all rules!!!!
Love you bro, always have! Ill never forget the days when you joined...we had a blast together...ive been here through all the hard times also...this place has made me a better person...i love it here and think of most of you as a family...love being art of the team here at EF...im always here for you bro as well as everyone else! Always here for you man...you have helped a lot of people out here and deserve lot of credit for what you do here. Thanks for everything man, Rocky.
 
Love you bro, always have! Ill never forget the days when you joined...we had a blast together...ive been here through all the hard times also...this place has made me a better person...i love it here and think of most of you as a family...love being art of the team here at EF...im always here for you bro as well as everyone else! Always here for you man...you have helped a lot of people out here and deserve lot of credit for what you do here. Thanks for everything man, Rocky.


I have done my best to put the right people into leadership here on all the forums. You, Lestat and others were always good friends
even back then so its only right I bring you into the leadership with me.

I knew CEO was the right person to put in charge of chat and I feel all the right people are in the right places now.
 
Needto gives good advice and has other peoples best interests at heart.
Thanks for the advice buddy and rest assured I will be getting all the gym rats I know to check out NTBM products
Once again thanks, your knowledge is priceless

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Hey subs thanks for the thread man. It has been a long rode with many many more miles to go. My first few years on elite I was just a angry person. I was pissed off with how my life was turning out , and all the things that had happen to me the last few years. I was angry I got hurt, angry the army would not let me back in because of it. I liked cooking but hated working chef hours and everything about working in restaurants. I pretty much stayed drunk , even worked drunk most of the time. Of course that landed me in a lot of trouble and my poor wife had to watch my downward spiral of a life.

Elite fitness kept me alive through that time in my life. You guys here kept me going and more then likely kept me out of spending the rest of my life in prison. I had a place to let out everything I was dealing with. I came here looking for steroids and found a place to tell the world I hated it!Hated my life , hated the world and everything in it. I wanted to escape reality so I drank and posted on elite any chance I could get. That person was not the real person I was though. It was me at my worst , down and out. That was me giving up on me and calling it quits.

I could not be more happy that I finely pulled my self out of that place. I guess it takes reaching bottom before you do something about it. To all the people I hurt , talked shit to, attacked or was a dick to back then I am sorry. I was just letting out my anger on this place and the people here. When I quite drinking and got my life back together I still had a deep love for this site and the people here. When some one walks with you through the toughest parts of your life you cant help but grow attached to them as well as feel like you owe them something for it. Many here prob never knew that's what life was like for me or knew what I was going though. Shit chat was not a place you let shit like that out.

I have always enjoyed doing things for others. Its one of the main reasons I liked cooking. So That is what I started to do here on elite once I stop drinking and got things in order. I liked helping all the members here, loved the site and enjoyed my life again. Shortly after I started working for some of the sponsors here on the site ( the ones I believed in and felt strong about)and just so happens I was good at doing it.
So I made some good money doing it. The better I got at working as a rep the more money I made till I finely said " what the hell am I working as a chef for? I like being on elite more, I get to help more people, and I make more money doing it". So I quite my job and went to working online full time.

I have never has to much passion as I do for this site and the peole here on this site. I owe everything to this site and I am forever in debt to this site and the members who come here each day. Working as a rep for other companies taught me that most companies in this industry are fucked up. They dont really give a damn about anyone but the money they make off them. Bottom dollar is all that matters. I few places started off
acting as if they gave a shit about the site. In fact they almost have to but I have seen so many places pass through elite.. Tell me they care about the site and its members and then soon as they make it big its fuck elitefitness. Screw the members!! I have seen the inner workings of many companies and the number 1 reason I was never hired by many of them is because I cared to damn much about the people. I wanted to give refunds and they didn't. I did not like some bull shit product they were about to make and they did.

I got sick of watching this shit go on in front of my face so I formed NTBM . I started with protein bars because food is what I knew best. After that time just kind of flew by and 3-4 years later here I am. Since the day I made up my mind to stop drinking and make something of my life again. I have worked for some of the largest companies in the industry. I have a published book and many published Articles. I own my own and parts/percentages of 10 other companies, I have my own Media company, I MMA gym and soon to be needtobuildmuscles first physical store location opens in a month or so. A brand new facility complete with a smoothy bar/snake counter and supplement store.

I am always going to be grateful for what I have and I know where I come from. I do my best to remain humble. I always remember that I was one ban away from having nothing. Just imagine if anyone of the mods back in the day had decided they wanted to ban me and keep me banned? HA HA I am betting more then a few are wishing they had done that when they had the chance lmao. I was always one drunk night away from spending the rest of my life in jail. My life is the way it is because I was given a chance by the right people at the right place at the right time. Thats why I work so hard to this very day. If I forget I am not really anything all that special then I may just lose my fire! I see the threads, here what people say but I never let it make me think I am any better then the rest of the people who post here today..

Anyone of the posters in this thread could be me right now. I hope to stay around for a very long time if nor forever though. I dont want to be the last big name that passed through elite, or the last sponsor who passed through the doors. So I no matter how big I think I am I will do the same thing I have been doing here for years. Help the people and do things right. Treat people the best I can , make the best products I can, Respect everyone and treat all as my friends because that is what everyone here is.

Thanks for everything guys . You all rules!!!!

that's some real talk my bro. good shit



on a semi related note, how come i couldn't get my better protein bars to come out right? It was like powdery and didn't come out evenly. the peanut butter kinda clumped and half of the baking try wasn't solid. it also would break apart a lot

i know i'm probably just fucking it up or not doing something right,i just don't know what. i used natty crunchy PB, so maybe that might be a problem. i used the correct amount of honey and PB though. never felt like it mixed right
 
that's some real talk my bro. good shit



on a semi related note, how come i couldn't get my better protein bars to come out right? It was like powdery and didn't come out evenly. the peanut butter kinda clumped and half of the baking try wasn't solid. it also would break apart a lot

i know i'm probably just fucking it up or not doing something right,i just don't know what. i used natty crunchy PB, so maybe that might be a problem. i used the correct amount of honey and PB though. never felt like it mixed right

what did you use to mix it? a food processor or just a sp00n
 
that's some real talk my bro. good shit



on a semi related note, how come i couldn't get my better protein bars to come out right? It was like powdery and didn't come out evenly. the peanut butter kinda clumped and half of the baking try wasn't solid. it also would break apart a lot

i know i'm probably just fucking it up or not doing something right,i just don't know what. i used natty crunchy PB, so maybe that might be a problem. i used the correct amount of honey and PB though. never felt like it mixed right
did you add the water that it says to add?

If the bars are crumbling like what you have described all you need to do is add a little bit more of a wet ingredient. Honey, water, more peanut butter anything wet. Hell skeet on them bitches and feed it to your girl for shits and giggles.

No but really crumbling falling appart=add wet ingredient
Mushy, to wet, watery or anything like this=Add dry ingredient

Its like making a meat loaf bro. You guys remember my meat loaf thread right? BTW nice pic CEo ya that was a ATW classic right there
 
Also needto, awesome post bro. You are an inspiration, I wanted to do stuff with nutrition like you, but how teh fuck could I compete with u lolz

you dont bro. Its called team up with me like everyone else. I am not a greedy man and never have been. I feel there is plenty of cake at the party for everyone to have a slice. If you help cook the meal then you should be able to sit down at the table and eat.

If you have something you want to sell . Then form a real company with a business license . Put me down as 20-30% owner and then give me the product and I will sell ta shit out of it ( if its worth selling that is)... I would talk to me first and explain the product Idea/concept what ever it is you got that you want to offer people.

I have given many people a chance and helped many other companies grow. I dont have to have ownership at all but it helps.


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You dont have to do a thing just sit back and watch us make your company grow.

Put your advertising on steroids and get some muscle on your Media with muscular world Media :supercool
 
did you add the water that it says to add?

If the bars are crumbling like what you have described all you need to do is add a little bit more of a wet ingredient. Honey, water, more peanut butter anything wet. Hell skeet on them bitches and feed it to your girl for shits and giggles.

No but really crumbling falling appart=add wet ingredient
Mushy, to wet, watery or anything like this=Add dry ingredient

Its like making a meat loaf bro. You guys remember my meat loaf thread right? BTW nice pic CEo ya that was a ATW classic right there

hmm....i'll def do the water thing. It makes perfect sense and i even thought about it for a second before i made it, but i just followed the directions to the tee. there's no mention on the package of water. just says 3/4th cup honey, 1 cup PB, mix and then stick em in the fridge.


and yeah, i remember the meatloaf thread lol. classic

damn..........now that i think about it, your cook book came out a little over 3 years ago. hard to believe it was that long ago
 
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