JKurz's Log "Mirrors are all hidden"!

[silver_shadow]

Thanks for all the support and posts...I am not running from the problem, I am attempting to conquer it....I know my test levels right now are nil. So the best scenerio would be to run a pct and see where I stand. My other option is to run a small cycle with a proper pct and then get tested. Trust me, Im not looking for a temp. fix but a perm one. One that will allow me to eat, train and be happy.

I think overall, a SMALL test cycle will allow me to eat the calories required without the fear of geting too fat. I know my low test and this amount of cals will lead to nothing but fat gain with a minimal amount of mass. Sort of like a woman. They dont have nearly as much test as we are suppose to and therefor cant gain mass. I am in the same ballpark right now. SO what I am going to do is run a small cycle followed by a very on point pct and hope that I restart natty. Then get tested. If everything is up to par, I will promise to never touch gear again. If I make that promise, will u guys support it? COuld you tell me your thoughts on the best possible and safest way to cycle it for 10 weeks followed my a good pct.

300mg test split between prop and cyp
400mg eq/ week 10 weeks

hcg, clomid and nola on hand. Thanks bros....

IMO you're going to crash bad after a cycle at this stage. so there's only way - don't cycle... build up your test levels slowly and naturally - if it means gaining a little fat on the way so be it - in any case, low or high endo test, you will still gain fat during a bulk.

ok here's a suggestion - you mentioned you were tested a year ago. now why don't you get tested sometime soon (like sometime within a week from now). follow your diet - high cals and workout with intensity for 2 mths. then after 2 months check your test levels again. what do you say - is that possible? you should see a positive swing in your levels...

 

[blut wump]

You can get fat or fatter on test. It helps with nutrient partitioning but it's not some miracle, wonder potion. You are also likely to bloat which will confound the situation even more.

Have you tried herbals? I find tribulus and maca make a significant difference to me. Tongkat Ali and avena sativa come well-reputed, too.

Until you have put in a couple of months on this natural course, don't even think about your drawer-full of synthetic hormones.

 

[JKurz1]

BEEN EATING WELL these last couple of weeks minus the dextrose which was making me sort of ill……also, the bloat was a little rough so have decdied to reduce the fiber a tax (i.e. oats) and nix the ww products (pasta) and go with brown rice and yams for a few meals. Will be starting 250mg a week tomorrow. Up 10lbs, goal is to pack on another 10-15lbs, making sure to NOT miss a meal, nix the 2x a day workouts and just train heay and hard. Sunday will be 2 cheat meals replacing two of my normal scheduled meals. Breakfast and dinner. 125mg of cyp on Fridays, 125mg on Tuesdays and then a proper pct in 10 weeks of 50mg clomid/nolva and 500 hcg,. Then get retested a hope all is ok.


Thursday (traps, calves, abs, forearms) 530 am
Meal 1
1 cup oats
12 egg whites
½ cup skim

Meal 2
¾ cup oats
¼ cup oat bran (BLOATEDDDD!)
2 scoops casein blend, egg whites and skim

Meal 3
6 oz lean beef and chx
HUGE salad and veggies
Either a 6oz yam or ½ cup cooked brown rice….yet to be decided, thoughts?

 

[The Shadow]

I have said this 1000 times........taking ANY amount of test will NOT IMPROVE YOUR HPTA


you need to realize that

 

[BiggT]

JK, good luck with that....the bottom line is you're a 30 year old man and you're free to do whatever it is you please. Keep posting though, I'd like to follow along and offer any support, and I'll be curious to see the progress. Just see it through though and don't freak out in 10lbs and go on some gay starvation diet.

 

[petpre61]

Meal 3
6 oz lean beef and chx
HUGE salad and veggies
Either a 6oz yam or ½ cup cooked brown rice….yet to be decided, thoughts?

you are asking for thoughts on wether you should eat brown rice or yam? WTF?

You got all the input, knowledge and support from shadow, tony, bw, madcow and others you need to find your way back to a steadier training, eating, living style.
Why do you ask anyway? It is not going to change a darn thing because you are not listing to sense at all.
Every page in this log was a thread itself, you post a diet plan plus some work out stuff, ask for advice and support, people help you, tell you what to do and what not. After some back forth you agree with them and a day later you post that you did the exact same thing you wanted to do in the first place. I seriously doubt that anyone on EF can help you with your real problems and these are definitely not the low test level or missing a meal.

 

[blut wump]

Regarding the 6oz yam or ½ cup cooked brown rice, I'd go for both with a half-cup of clotted cream on top and wash it down with a pint or two of milk, preferably whole mllk.

 

[JKurz1]

I have said this 1000 times........taking ANY amount of test will NOT IMPROVE YOUR HPTA


you need to realize that

what wwould help HPTA, I realize this.....

 

[JKurz1]

I have said this 1000 times........taking ANY amount of test will NOT IMPROVE YOUR HPTA


you need to realize that

what wwould help HPTA, I realize this.....

clomid and nolva?

 

[blut wump]

More cholesterol in your diet would help and more EFAs. Try the herbals before moving to chemicals.