JKurz's Log "Mirrors are all hidden"!

[Protobuilder]

BEEN EATING WELL these last couple of weeks minus the dextrose which was making me sort of ill……also, the bloat was a little rough so have decdied to reduce the fiber a tax (i.e. oats) and nix the ww products (pasta) and go with brown rice and yams for a few meals.

You aren't stepping on stage tomorrow, so why worry about retaining a bit of water or whatever from your fiber? It's such a small, irrelevant bump in the road that it's not even a bump. It's a nothing. Irrelevant. Eat and be happy.

Meal 1
1 cup oats
12 egg whites
½ cup skim

This sounds like a dreadful breakfast. A half cup of milk? WTF? I've got a better idea: 3 whole eggs + 3 whites, a slice of cheese, and 2 Eggo Whole-Grain waffles w/ a dash of sugarfree syrup. Yum.

Either a 6oz yam or ½ cup cooked brown rice….yet to be decided, thoughts?

On the flip side, if these are your biggest concerns in life, you've got a pretty charmed life! LoL

 

[JKurz1]

You aren't stepping on stage tomorrow, so why worry about retaining a bit of water or whatever from your fiber? It's such a small, irrelevant bump in the road that it's not even a bump. It's a nothing. Irrelevant. Eat and be happy.



This sounds like a dreadful breakfast. A half cup of milk? WTF? I've got a better idea: 3 whole eggs + 3 whites, a slice of cheese, and 2 Eggo Whole-Grain waffles w/ a dash of sugarfree syrup. Yum.



On the flip side, if these are your biggest concerns in life, you've got a pretty charmed life! LoL

where did I say anything about water retention? I said bloat....bloat meaning my lower stomach is painfully swole from the oats....is that ok?

I forgot the 2 scoops casein in meal #1, it's in the am and I am rushed....plus, I just don't mix fats and carbs......p/c or p/f is how I go.....

I went with the garden salad in meal #3, pretty good size damn salad with a ton of veggies....

 

[JKurz1]

where did I say anything about water retention? I said bloat....bloat meaning my lower stomach is painfully swole from the oats....is that ok?

I forgot the 2 scoops casein in meal #1, it's in the am and I am rushed....plus, I just don't mix fats and carbs......p/c or p/f is how I go.....

I went with the garden salad in meal #3, pretty good size damn salad with a ton of veggies....

ohhh...and then I had 8oz beef..........and rice......most of my calories come postworkout, 3/4ths of them...so I gotta save room! lol

 

[alex2678]

JK, your diet is so low in fat right now. Will you at least considered doing what a lot of the people on here have been telling you and try a higher fat diet? Cholesterol itself is the most basic prohormone. Right now it looks like you're following a diet taken out of FLEX magazine from 1994 with the 60.30/10 c/p/f ratio. Try to center your diet around whole eggs, fatty red meat, milk and whole eggs and then have your testosterone levels checked to see what's going on. I promise you will not gain fat.

 

[JKurz1]

I get most of my fats in from dead animals (I eat the 90% leabn beef) , eggs, and a ton of nuts/almonds before bed. Plus, I add flax to my shakes....serious question though....If I do the cycle.......I just want to know if this is rational:

Has anyone done a low dose cycle, say 250mg test, made good gains, did a proper pct and been ok for good? Maybe a good clean 10-15lbs on a 99% clean diet? Thoughts? Why go higher if it really isnt needed....just a boost, a feel good boost........

 

[BiggT]

JK, don't worry about brown rice or the yam....you're 6'2"...you're not an 11 year old female gymnast, like Blut Wump said, eat them both if you want.....at least eat 2 potatoes, preferable with butter......these minor details make up so little of your overall progress in the grand scheme of things.

I haven't said much about the micromanaged diet because it is MUCH better than starving yourself on 2000 cals a day......I didn't say much about the twice a day workout and excess fluff iso movements because at least you were training progressively and it was better than what you were doing......I didn't say much other than personal experiences with the AAS because I really don't consider myself all that knowledgable on them......I am very supportive of you because you are making a change for the better and I can see it is difficult and your mind does play games with you.......bodybuilding/lifting weights is filled with myths, bullshit, sales pitches, and conflicting advice, so I understand your frustrations as well. While not an AAS expert, I know that your thinking is to do a sensible cycle so you don't have to worry about "getting fat", then do the PCT and hopefully you'll be functioning properly.....but, taking synthetic testosterone will in NO way stimulate the body to produce it naturally. With the little background I know of you, I would guess that low test levels are from CHRONIC overtraining and malnourishment, and I would guess stress, which is very catabolic in and of itself.....you need to fix the problem at the root, lift right, eat enough (not a BS bodybuilding diet, which believe it or not are infamous in athletic circles for contributing to malnourishment due to an idiotic lack of variety and essential nutrients.....instead, eat like you're trying to grow hair on your chest).

What you've got is this.....you're in the middle of the ocean, and you're in a boat with a hole in it that is filling with water. What you're doing is scooping out the water each and every time the boat starts to sink....what you need to do is patch the damn hole so you can actually get the boat to go someplace.

 

[BiggT]

JK, your diet is so low in fat right now. Will you at least considered doing what a lot of the people on here have been telling you and try a higher fat diet? Cholesterol itself is the most basic prohormone. Right now it looks like you're following a diet taken out of FLEX magazine from 1994 with the 60.30/10 c/p/f ratio. Try to center your diet around whole eggs, fatty red meat, milk and whole eggs and then have your testosterone levels checked to see what's going on. I promise you will not gain fat.

LOL at the '94 FLEX Mag comment.....seriously, I had a theory that the Nubain craze in the late-90's was because people's joints were screaming from an absolutely moronic lack of fat in their diets. Well, that and doing concentration curls from 97 different angles.

 

[blut wump]

It doesn't matter much where you're getting your fats from if you're not getting enough. Your diet is deficient in fats. Without a decent quantity of cholesterol to work with, your body is lacking the basic building blocks to make testosterone.

A proper pct will not make you OK for good if you are unable to solve these basic dietary issues. Improve your diet and training and then consider gear. Not the other way around. There are risks to using synthetic hormones, more so to someone who considers his endocrine system to be on the blink anyway.

 

[JKurz1]

OK….No more bashing….we are bros and I am truly sorry for being hard headed. Let’s keep this real. Please.

Listen to this and tell me if you would stand by me as the proper way to handle.

I have been on this diet to a tee 4200 cals one way or another and have listened to what u have said. I want to be the best I can be and don’t want to jeopardize my health. My test levels have been low for god knows how long, reason I was on androderm and then nothing..no followup, etc. So I am shut down. I feel like shit which is making it really hard to eat. I haven’t done ccardio in weeks…I used to be a cardio freak. My training is now 4x a week…used to be 7. If I stick with this diet and PROMISE to up my fats to the 90-100g range, would I be ok, say in a week, after gaining a clean 15lbs all natty, to run a SMALL SAFE test 250mg cycle with some eq for 10 weeks. THEN THEN hit a nice solid PCT a smart one….then rest and then get tested. I am not going to beat this up any more, and I respect your answer. But please tell me I will make some good gains by doing this then getting checked will let me know where I stand. If its hrt, then so be it. BUT, I will NOT MAKE gains having the test of a girl….I promise to eat my ass off….I PROMISE….to eat a little dirty I promise to quit worrying and just live life, and I know Test will help me ease the mind. Just as long as I know I am above par and now need to feed the juice for it to work…..I can hit 200 again in 10 weeks….I know it……PLEASE boys….tell me the truth! You have all done cycles and you gotta admit some have gotten pretty hairy…mine is safe and mild…very mild!! My diet will be on tract, my rest will be perfect and my fats will be ramped!

 

[The Shadow]

More cholesterol in your diet would help and more EFAs. Try the herbals before moving to chemicals.

I would try:

Arimidex
Tribulus
Efa's
Clomid
Hcg

...before gear if it were me