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I am 5'10'' 220lbs at around 9% bodyfat. I have never incorporated squats and deadlifts into my routine. My training has always been similiar to the routine that I outlined.When I want to add mass I simply increase calories. When I want to cut I decrease them. It's that simple.
 
cardiomann said:
I am 5'10'' 220lbs at around 9% bodyfat. I have never incorporated squats and deadlifts into my routine. My training has always been similiar to the routine that I outlined.When I want to add mass I simply increase calories. When I want to cut I decrease them. It's that simple.

since u havent done anything else than the stuff you posted how can you tell 5x5 is a bullshit bb routine?
 
BiggT said:
To add, most bodybuilders WHO DO NOT use gallons of test/gh/slin and do not train for progressive strength increases in big lifts are small, under 200lbs, and if you saw them in a t shirt you would never know they worked out. But, it is only a matter of time before they discover the *secret* exercise or program or angle to put the incline bench at for Smith machine presses that will take them to hugeness, right?

FLEX, MuscleMag, Weider Principles, the supplement industry, and actually modern 'bodybuilding' as a whole is involved in a cover-up at the expense of uninformed people's bank accounts.....People buy mags, they read ads for supplements, when supplements sell, the supplement companies get rich and advertise more in mags, making the mags rich....for people to buy mags, you can't just keep printing 'squat, pull, press, eat, repeat'....most people don't want hard, but simple.....they want easy, but complicated. Nobody who is natural or even moderately juiced is getting huge on a 'routine' that isn't focused on bringing up big lifts, just walk into any gym in America and look at the average size and strength of the members, they aren't small because they don't juice (a lot of 'em actually do and are still pussies), they aren't small because they haven't discovered the magic routine or supplement, they're squids because they do not know how to train progressively over time.....the cover-up if anybody hasn't guessed is of course the fact that the routines in the mags and pumping and blasting won't work unless you're a genetic freak who is also completely reliant on drugs and ancillaries, then the rest as they say is 99.9% diet (another joke, but thats another topic).

Anybody who really thinks that in a natural trainee, bodybuilding and strength training are vastly different, doesn't know a thing.

Training compound lifts progressively always slaps muscle on people, natural or not, so long as they aren't starving themselves. If you want to train '1 bodypart a week', then fine, just make sure the squat, deadlift, bench, overhead, row etc go up. The reason strength training uses frequency is because it fosters faster progress, however the once a week split can be effective if it isn't cluttered with buttheaded iso exercises and centered around 'getting pumped and sore'. Seriously, anybody doing a ton of iso crap wouldn't even notice if they dropped it, so long as they kept getting better on th stuff that counts.
Mr. Spellwin, can we make this a sticky?

Sarge, here is an interview with Dave Gulledge. He answers your question on page 4 (with a "yes").
 
anotherbutters said:
Absolutely. That's why I think you should be focusing on getting better at the big compound movements

*snip*

Another thing, if you're getting stronger from week to week and you can see the weight on the bar going up, that will take your mind off your abs.

I think that's fantastic advice.

J, bro, you know you can't have your cake and eat it, too. A little loss in the clarity of your abs is well worth getting your muscle back, bro. You've got muscle memory on your side ... if you focus almost solely on getting your big, compound moves back to where they were and continue to eat your ass off, you'll be back where you were in no time flat; and if, at that point, you figure you could be leaner, well -- diet for awhile. Step up the cardio a little.

But until then, get back to where you could pump out an easy 15 w/ 225 on the flat bench. Get your squat up to where it was. The muscle will be there then, man. With it, it'll be that much easier to burn off the little bit of fat you might've put on in the process.

Keep your eye on the whole forest. Don't stress it by the tree, man.
 
JKurz1 said:
First of all, I dontlike this routine at all. Wayyy too much cable work and isolation work and cardio every day??? Did you read any of my posts?? Dude Im 168, I need the rest....2x a week moderate walk max......you must be cutting.

I spoke with my trainer this am and he really isnt a fan of 5x5 and said If I chose to do it, so be, just leave him out.....well, I promised I would listen to him for 90 days, if I dint see a change, then it was over. He agreed. SO in the case, I need to stick to my word. We went over the diet to a tee and the training schedule (since he isnt seeing the improvement he wanted after 3 weeks, still beat down, he's changing up my split...no more 2x a day)

Monday
CHEST/BIS

TUES -
HAMSTRINGS, FOREARRMS, ABS CALVES

WED
OFF

THURSDAY
BACK/TRAPS

FRIDAY
DELTS/TRIS

SAT -
QUADS, FOREARMS, ABS CALVES....

I promise you guys I will go back to the 5x5 if he dpesnt work out....Promise. I just made a promise to the devil, errr him and I need to keep it.

Can I give a lil rant? I get depressed hardcore. Why? I'm not sure, like this morning, I did 30 minutes of light cardio, showered, a flex my abs and they just appear faded...why is this? My calories arent even that high and yesterdays calories were lower than normal? I always carry around this full/bloated feeling and have this modd swings where I say LETS GET BIG...then the next hand I get depressed because I just look skinny fat....

Here's the catch however....if I was getting stronger, I would care less about the abs or the scale. Honest to God, but to still be weak and see the scale move, is what is depressing....so it's not a disorder, it's common sense...if the weights in the weightroom increase and I can be as strong as I was once was, I would truly give two shits abs the abs.....but I dont wanna gain all this weight in my stomach and still be weak....with me?



Hey skinny,where is there any cable work posted in my routine??? Most of my exercises are compound, basic movements.
 
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