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is PRIMOBOLAN worth it?

majutsu said:
I will never understand this fascination with anabolic "brands" when diet, training, and gains are "off" in so many . . . Which is better coke or pepsi? Is brand name coke really better than rc cola for the price? Might as well as these questions . . . Primo is not really that hard to find legit, more effort than test/deca/eq but not impossible for a relative newb with intelligence to identify (i.e. don't accept non-turkish primo, etc). It is the same cost as an amp of deca or sust usually, give or take a dollar or two, so where is this "huge" cost differential people talk about. 400 primo is like 500 test, with less acne and slightly less bloat, less gyno risk, but just as much hair loss. Test is best in general, and cheapest, but if you are susceptible to one of the effects above try primo, if not sensitive, why bother? That's really all there is to say about primo, or any anabolic really, and 50 threads to this effect are unlikely to change the situation. Really, a modest cycle of test/nandrolone/eq/primo/anavar will hit the same anabolic receptor they all hit . . . Sure people prefer one brand or another, but there is no deep abiding difference chemically. I constantly wish the 730+ people that view the anabolic board every hour would stop agonizing over whether to do 400primo/500eq or 500eq/400primo? Like it matters . . . Training and diet failures are responsible for the prevailing view that anabolics barely "work", and the fact is that for most people, gains accumulated are at a natural rate, but much more expensive and dangerous to the liver/cholesterol/etc. Just get 600primo ew, try it, and know it. I'm not anti-AAS at all, but I think people should pick an anabolic they are comfortable with, tolerate well, can get cheaply and reliably, and work the gains. This desire to "play" with anabolics wastes alot of time, energy, and I think of late, encourages people to focus on the least important aspects of building a great physique. There is nothing wrong with the thread Georgie, and I'm not trying to flame anyone, it's just I have an egg timer on my desk, and every time it rings, I have to type a venting post like this in whatever thread I'm viewing :) Primo is great, not that expensive, and not that hard to find. Try it, you'll probably like it. If not, test always gets the job done. Plus, Georgie, I think in past posts you've mentioned probs with AR-anabolics tren/test/eq, and you may have glucorticoid-AR cross-over problems. If I remember right, you could try a non-AR anabolic . . . . (winny e.g.) If you don't know the difference between an AR and non-AR anabolic and which are which, then you are certainly up the creek without a paddle, if so find my anabolic primer of a few months ago (by search) to read up.

your prolly right man. i need more info on ar and no ar drugs. test drives me insane even at low dose. 200 mg week fucks with my mind to no end.
 
That's what I thought. I remember you saying once test/eq/and tren all drove you nuts. But I wasn't sure I remembered right. So, I figured you might really be asking "Do you think primo will work for me?". If I have the right guy in memory, I think it odd that so many things would "be bad" for you. But primo, in particular, feels real emotionally testy to me. I get a sort-of chattery feeling in my teeth with test, for example, which I like btw, but I get the same edge with primo and to a lesser degree eq. Now that's a real idiosyncratic reaction, but you get the idea, primo is like a clean test to me. You may have trouble with primo too, but at a little cost outlay :( . Maybe NPP is best idea for you, as deca (nandrolone) is real UN-testy, but I also remember you saying you feared recovery problems with deca, so NPP might be ideal solution for you. I love primo, but I also love test. Maybe for you Georgie NPP and winny may be good choice.
 
Primo at the high dosages is murder on your hair. Much worse than testosterone. I don't recommed high dosages of primo. No more than 400mg/week. After that, your hair comes out in big greesy clumps. At least that is what happened with me.
 
snagglepuss said:
thank you for sharing your cycle info. Could I ask another question: what is "modified HST"? Also, what is "Poliquin's 1,6 routine"? Is there a website with information on this? thanks.

You can learn about 1,6 right over in Elite's training forum. Or search google for more info on it:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Poliquin's+1,6&btnG=Google+Search

HST = Hypertrophy Specific Training
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Hypertrophy+Specific+Training&btnG=Google+Search


For my HST program, I split the whole body up instead of doing the whole body 3x/week. I cannot tolerate the volume they advocate. I will become overtrained doing squats, deads, OHP, et c all on one day.

Day 1 - c/a/s
Bench, Arnold Press,Pullover, EZ bar curl, crossover

Day 2 - legs/back
Squat, cable row, calve raise, hammer strength pulldown machine

Day 3 - c/a/s
Incline Press, OHP, pullover

Day 4 - legs/back
Deads, BB row, CG Pulldown, wg pulldown (switch to chins in 5's)


Monitored the signs of overtraining and took a day off as needed. Abs on day off, and any other time I felt like it (usu about 2x week).
 
Shit! I just began (yesterday!) a cycle with 250mg Primo ew + 30mg Var ed, but the doses mentioned in this thread make me feel like an ant (not atomic, though). I am 40 and not looking to compete or anything like that... I am just after 10 pounds of lbm. I intend to run it for 7 weeks. Is this enough for my goal?

And, BTW, I am using Spanish (100mg) and Mexican (50mg) Primos...so it is not impossible to get something else apart from the Turkish...
 
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