Is it the gear pushing the weights?

[Slaine]

I've been training now for say 4 years, no steriods, just lots of hard work and eating well, I'm 6ft and about 210lbs. Yet everytime I come on here I hear of sensational claims about training weights, most of the time these guys are pushing about 3 times more weight than me and they are only say, 20lbs heavier than me, some are the same, why is this, does gear boost your strength that much!!

For example, my bench press training weight is from 140lbs to 168lbs, I might be able to squeeze 175 at a push. My shoudler press before my cuff injury was about 80lbs tops! a lot of guys on here use 150lbs just as a warm up, it's outragous!!!

 

[xrsist]

how may sets and reps are you doing at those weights?

 

[no1_brawler]

I've been training now for say 4 years, no steriods, just lots of hard work and eating well, I'm 6ft and about 210lbs. Yet everytime I come on here I hear of sensational claims about training weights, most of the time these guys are pushing about 3 times more weight than me and they are only say, 20lbs heavier than me, some are the same, why is this, does gear boost your strength that much!!

For example, my bench press training weight is from 140lbs to 168lbs, I might be able to squeeze 175 at a push. My shoudler press before my cuff injury was about 80lbs tops! a lot of guys on here use 150lbs just as a warm up, it's outragous!!!

NO gear doesnt boost your strength that much. Sorry to say if your benching 175lbs at 210lbs you are WEAK. I'm 18, weigh 200lbs and bench press 320lbs Max.

 

[drwoody]

To answer you question,NO!! There gear is not pushing the weights.

I'm 10lbs less than you,6ft 200lbs.My max bench was 275lbs before I ever touch gear.Gear does give you extra strenght for sure,but its years of hard work and proper trainging and dieting that is pushing the weight.

Gear is just like the cherry on top,gives you that extra edge.

Your on the right track,keep training hard and eating well.

Good luck to you

 

[Bruce]

well i would not call him weak because he has had an injury and also probably has pretty long arms i'm assuming like me which can make benching hard. still i put up 235 at 170 and scrawny compared to now. the funny thing is i no longer do any heavy weights due to back problems but i mean shit not heavy is what you are saying you do for your heavy sets. i do 185 now a good 12 times with great form, but actually i rarely do any work with barbells on bench. i much prefer hitting flys first to get blood pumping into the chest. then i go to 10-8-8-6-6 sets of dumbell bench with perfect form.


what do you think your bf is man, cause you weigh more than me and are doing a lot less weight. 135 is like the beginining weight for most guys who are ready to lift naturally. i will say that benching is genetics because my boy does 475 like a feather and thats no joke, he was able to do 250 when we started lifting. he just has a barrell chest and its really easy for him. i really only ever got up near 290 at the most, it is impressive for my small frame but its nowhere near my boys. on the other hand my back puts his to shame any day of the week. i can pull down more and my bi's are stronger. so that is genetic for me. i also know guys who are 6 4 and played hoops that can barely do 125 with stability.

 

[sardonicone]

I've been training now for say 4 years, no steriods, just lots of hard work and eating well, I'm 6ft and about 210lbs. Yet everytime I come on here I hear of sensational claims about training weights, most of the time these guys are pushing about 3 times more weight than me and they are only say, 20lbs heavier than me, some are the same, why is this, does gear boost your strength that much!!

For example, my bench press training weight is from 140lbs to 168lbs, I might be able to squeeze 175 at a push. My shoudler press before my cuff injury was about 80lbs tops! a lot of guys on here use 150lbs just as a warm up, it's outragous!!!

I'm curious as to how hard you're hitting the weights if you can only do that much weight.

I weigh 145 and I crank out more than you, and I've never been on gear. What are your workouts like? What is your diet like? Are there any other underlying conditions we should know about? I'm not the strongest guy around, in fact I'm far from it, but I can put up at least 205 on the bench, which, while not great, is 60 lbs over my bodyweight.

Maybe there's an underlying issue causing you to not gain strength.

 

[misticat]

thats bad... before i started my first cycle I was pushing 275 for flat bench 6 times when i weighed 185 after 2 years of lifting...

 

[advanced-stealth]

Could you post more info on your training.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

I started out with a very weak bench. Long arms are a huge disadvantage. Learn how to shorten you range of motion (develope your arch, rotate shoulder blades in towards your spine, and take a 32" grip) and eat to increase chest thickness. AAS can increase your benching strength POTENTIAL by at least 10%, and maybe a little more.
Good Luck.

 

[maxspeed96ct]

I did my first cycle when i was maxin 275 on the bench, i just couldnt get any stornger.

Im not that much stornger now to be honest, but im about 25lbs lighter and i and 10x happier with the way i look.