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"Lord give me the strength to change the things that I can and help me to accept those which I can not and the knowledge to distinguish one from the other."
Is it possible to work out of a depression without meds?
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You are definitely a rarity. And I have SO much respect for people who are able to take control of their own lives. Identifying with and making the changes necessary to promote a positive you.Nathan said:I could list off the various mental disorders I was diagnosed with when I was a kid but won't - I'm normal I swear.Bi-polar disorder was one of them though, yes.
And believe me, I know exactly what you mean. I have a friend or two who is bi-polar and they prolly should be on meds if you ask me. They aren't able to get a hold of it on their own, at least not in the last few years. I'm not saying I have it all figured it out but I definitely think it is worth a person's time to reflect on themselves when they feel they are going through something like this. I try to spend more time listening since I find my head is simply preoccupied with other thoughts that can make it difficult to be ont eh same wavelength as everyone else - and that seems to be the issue with other people I know who are bi-polar. Just shut up and relax, basically.
I think part of the advantage I have in this regard is that I went through all this shit pretty bad when I was still a kid, which is a slightly more acceptable time - though not to your peers anyways. I can't even imagine starting from scratch at this point in my life. What a mess that'd be.
ps-I think you're great.
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habitualhealth said:You are definitely a rarity. And I have SO much respect for people who are able to take control of their own lives. Identifying with and making the changes necessary to promote a positive you.
ps-I think you're great.
Thanks hun.
*blushes*. I hear the whole taking control thing as well - I find that incredibly appealing in other people.
calveless wonder
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Being bi-polar is a SERIOUS disorder...you just don't develop it overnight. It would have been apparent wayyyyyyyyyyy before in your life.
i highly doubt you're bi-polar....like someone said, moments of happiness followed by the realization of your depression.
that's you trying to fight through the depression, more than anything.
i highly doubt you're bi-polar....like someone said, moments of happiness followed by the realization of your depression.
that's you trying to fight through the depression, more than anything.
Lao Tzu
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Big Rick Rock said:
yeah you need meds or something. I doubt you can think your way out of a funk this deep.
If you are going the supplement route (I am an expert on supplements for depression, PM me for info if you want) read either dealing with depression naturally or depression free for life
http://www.amazon.com/Depression-Free-Life-Physicians-All-Natural-5-Step/dp/0060959657
http://www.amazon.com/Dealing-Depre...2589449?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173839971&sr=1-1
I know in my own life after I added selenium, trimethylglycine, fish oil, bioavailable magnesium, bioavailable zinc and a B-50 vitamin to my daily vitamins that my mood has made a 180 from where it was 3 years ago. The brain performs trillions of chemical reactions a second, and if it isn't getting the coenzymes and raw materials necessary to cope with all that (esp in times of stress) you are going to suffer. Keep in mind that those supps were for depression, not bipolar. TMG might make bipolar disorder worse for example.
Lao Tzu
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habitualhealth said:
I have schizophrenia and when I was a teenager it was so bad that I didn't even know I was sick. There is no way I could've controlled it.
People should be responsible and courageous in the face of illness, but getting medical help is necessary as well. You can't have one or the other and expect to succeed. You need a good attitude (resilient, competent, courageous, intelligent), medicine, alternative therapies and a strong social network to truly recover from a severe illness.
InquisitivePsyche
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Lao Tzu said:
I agree. With certain disorders you NEED medication and schizophrenia is one of them (from what I have read and listening to the people I work with). Some are just more biological than others....
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jerkbox said:
LOL and that's also why we have TONS of drugs.. because drugs cause OTHER problems (symptoms) which lead to you needing to take MORE drugs. Haha. Funny concept. Lots of drugs..
Lao Tzu
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InquisitivePsyche said:
Yup. But even with diseases like schizophrenia lifestyle plays a major role in recovery. People who are socially integrated have a 50-80% recovery rate, compared to shutins who only have a 20% recovery rate. And stress reduction or CBT can each cut relapse rates by 50%.
But its a mix of all 4 factors if you want to succeed. medicine, alternative therapies, social support and a proactive attitude.
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