Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Im so friggin sick of being hurt and am wondering if anyone else constantly hurt. I havent benched heavy in 2 years due to injury. So i finally get back to heavy or kinda. I did 225x5 last week. I did it prett easily. Prob could have done it 3 or 4 more times. well what do you know. Both shoulders are aching me now. They feel like little twinges of pain that will heal in a week or 2 but its bullshit that im always plagued with this. Arent ligaments and tendons supposed to get stronger as you increase muscle size and get stronger? Does anyone else experience this?
Is anyone else constantly injured
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Creepusmaximus
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I've lifted weights for 20 years or so and your a pussy with bad form. If you hurt yourself all the time your doing something wrong, maybe for a long time and you've worn out your body.
Moron, if your shoulders hurt, stop doing bench press. You ever hear of dips? Dumbbells? Worse thing you can do is start your chest routine with heavy bench presses. I'm sure that's what you do.
Ever think of trying to rehab your shoulders? I can tell you military press isn't going to help you. You need to lay off things that stress your shoulders.
Moron, if your shoulders hurt, stop doing bench press. You ever hear of dips? Dumbbells? Worse thing you can do is start your chest routine with heavy bench presses. I'm sure that's what you do.
Ever think of trying to rehab your shoulders? I can tell you military press isn't going to help you. You need to lay off things that stress your shoulders.
moron...how bout this you asshole. No i dont start heavy u prick. I warm up thoroughly. I know there alot of idiots here but u need to make sure youre talking to an idiot before you start with your insults. Ive been lifting for 8 years. Yea 3 or 4 of them i didnt know what the hell i was doin. then i started reading and reading. So back to the topic at hand. Obviously now that my shouldrs are hurting im not doing bench presses or military presses either. Dips are a no no aswell. What i really wanna know is if these guys who have increased their bench significantly have experienced joint pain in the process
Creepusmaximus
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muscelove said:
No. The shoulder problem is something different, it doesn't go hand and hand with increasing bench. what's the big deal with bench anyways? Being able to bench 300 or so doesn't really do much for you in real life. It's not like squats which directly show real life results.
Creepusmaximus said:
I believe they crucified the last person to question the almighty bench.
Regardless, the guy wants to press again and has had trouble. No need to jump his shit and call him names.
Musclelove, the issue with being a lifter and going back to lifts that you haven't done is that you aren't really conditioned to pound on them but yet you have the muscularture and neural efficiency to put a significant amount of load to work so even taking it easy and going slow, can be giving you a beating. Especially if you know it's a rough area, you need to take your time. Also consider that as you get old this only gets worse, I'd highly advise a supplemental recreational activity to loosen you up and get the joints moving without a lot of load on them. Exclusively weight training in slow basic movement patterns can make some people overly tight and prone to injury (that's my opinion anyway, I'm sure there's no longterm case studies out there but I feel it holds merrit).
Creepusmaximus
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muscelove said:
Try hitting your pecs first with flys, not to build muscle but just to loosen them up before you do any heavy lifting. Basicly you need stronger shoulders and or fatigue your pecs so your chest will fail before your shoulders. Make sure you loosen up your shoulders before any work out, windmills etc. Also I would keep your shoulder workout as far away as possible from you chest workout. Arranging what days you do what to allow for enough rest might help. Problem is you use your shoulders in just about every other body part routine.
muscelove said:
I kid you not. 2 weeks ago I'm sitting on the couch and stretch only to feel fire shooting in my neck. Pretty freaky but after a few days it feels okay. Yesterday I lifted (as I have done maybe 8-9 times since it happened without problem) totally without any incident but by the end of the session even hypers hurt like a bastard. Now it's like a case of whiplash. Driving in a car hurts, standing up, bending over, raising my arms - neck and posterior chain, anything. Could hardly get out of bed this morning. Had to roll to the side and slip my arm under my head. Called the ortho and took his cancelation for tomorrow as it was that or after the holidays.
I'm real sick of getting hurt. Everything that happens is this flukey shit that sidelines me for lengthy periods. Then just as I wrap up some rehab and get back into the mix a tiny bit, I get a brand new one on top of it. So yeah - I know how you feel man. No matter how careful I am, it just keeps happening. I am officially sick of being hurt.
End vent.
I was reading Practical Programming last night and Rippetoe said something about how if you train hard you will get injured. No way around it.
Not sure if I totally agree but I’m finding it to be true nonetheless.
He does say some interesting things about how ‘rest and it will go away’ isn’t the way to rehab, you need to strengthen the tissue around the injury to compensate. Or something like that.
Not sure if I totally agree but I’m finding it to be true nonetheless.
He does say some interesting things about how ‘rest and it will go away’ isn’t the way to rehab, you need to strengthen the tissue around the injury to compensate. Or something like that.
Hybridtheory2o
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Bro I also know exactly how you feel. I have minor pains in both my shoulders where you described. Its the tissue but mine are healing. I dont do flat bench presses with a barbell anymore. I find that dumbells for flat presses hammer your chest way more. With the barbell more shoulder work is induced whereas with dumbells way more chest is involved and you can notice a difference. Military presses with a barbell also irritate my shoulders so I found I can do military presses with dumbells heavy and I am just fine. Might want to try that man I also find I get better results with dumbell military press as well. I am more of a bodybuilder type though that trains heavy but not as heavy as power lifting guys. I usually end flat dumbell presses with 110 on each arm for 9 reps and 70 on military presses for about 8-9. My shoulders irritate only if I do these two excersizes with barbells so try that.
kevinoy93 said:
Life is an injury. Anything you do is going to eventually wind up in an injury or mishap. Play ping pong long enough and you'll eventually slip or turn the wrong way and get layed up. Drive long enough and you will make a mistake (and if you avoid this long enough you can bet someone else will make a mistake and hit you). The only way out of it is doing nothing or doing an activity infrequently or half assed enough to minimize exposure.
blut wump
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I'd like to add that I'm not only sick of being injured but I'm also sick of being sick of being injured.
Musclelove, start light one week and add slowly and steadily to the bar session to session. I had to start my squats again recently very gingerly squatting with just the bar. I added 2.5Kg (5 lbs) to the bar each session for a 5x5 until I hit 80Kg (176 lbs). Since then I've been adding 5Kg and should be squatting over 300 lbs for 5x5 this week. Sometimes you just have to accept that the body needs help getting back on track and the time to do it. As Madcow mentioned, age doesn't help with these aspects of training.
Musclelove, start light one week and add slowly and steadily to the bar session to session. I had to start my squats again recently very gingerly squatting with just the bar. I added 2.5Kg (5 lbs) to the bar each session for a 5x5 until I hit 80Kg (176 lbs). Since then I've been adding 5Kg and should be squatting over 300 lbs for 5x5 this week. Sometimes you just have to accept that the body needs help getting back on track and the time to do it. As Madcow mentioned, age doesn't help with these aspects of training.
harbinator
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BiggT said:
I second this, I had shoulder pain until I started benching properly.
Oddly enough when I first started lifting weights I used to have all sorts of problems with injuries. Now I cannot recall the last time I have had a decent injury (18 months ago maybe?). I am also at the heaviest and strongest I have ever been. I credit a few things to my staying injury free.
1) My form is quite well, and works with my body structure.
2) I do cardio, stretch, and do some active recovery.
3) My diet is rich in EFA's.
4) Genetics may be on my side.
5) Luck. Haha.
So bro, I guess I cannot really sympathize too much, but what I will say is tinker with form, active recovery, and eat lots of EFA's and see what happens.
1) My form is quite well, and works with my body structure.
2) I do cardio, stretch, and do some active recovery.
3) My diet is rich in EFA's.
4) Genetics may be on my side.
5) Luck. Haha.
So bro, I guess I cannot really sympathize too much, but what I will say is tinker with form, active recovery, and eat lots of EFA's and see what happens.
Come to think of it i do feel better doing presses with dumbells as opposed to a barbell. pain wise atleast. I Did some light lateral raises tonight and didnt feel any pain. I just did enough to get some blood flowing in the area. I believe ill start light with the benches in a bit and see how it works out
Hybridtheory2o
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Yep Ive had to basically almost start over again. It can be hard when you are used to moving a lot of weight consistantly. Its hard to break the habit escpecially when some young kid who hasnt got an injury yet starts throwin up more than you. What I do to combat this feeling is either go very late at night or very very early in the morning. I am fortunate enough that there arent many freaks where I live so there is almost nobody there which makes it easier to start out with very light weight again.
Nobody likes to get a powerful physique end up with a minor injury and have to start subtracting a lot of weight. You'll be alright bro. Bodybuilding or weight training or lifting whatever you wanna call it aint for the faint of heart thats for damn sure.
Nobody likes to get a powerful physique end up with a minor injury and have to start subtracting a lot of weight. You'll be alright bro. Bodybuilding or weight training or lifting whatever you wanna call it aint for the faint of heart thats for damn sure.
wakefib
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man i thought i was alone with this. i just recently got over a back injury after 2 years, and now i think i have a posterior impingement in my ankle. and i got a shoulder problem. the shoulder problem is going away though, and i suggest everyone with anterior shoulder pain to do this:
take a tennis ball lie on the floor. put the tennis ball under your where your teres minor and infraspinatus meet (check it out at wikipedia). if it hurts mostlikely your issue is with your rotator cuff. in this position start doing a rotator cuff movement with your shoulder at 45 degrees. also, you can put the ball just medial to your scapula and do it there. caution this will hurt like a bitch.
i did this for 3 days and the pain is gone.
take a tennis ball lie on the floor. put the tennis ball under your where your teres minor and infraspinatus meet (check it out at wikipedia). if it hurts mostlikely your issue is with your rotator cuff. in this position start doing a rotator cuff movement with your shoulder at 45 degrees. also, you can put the ball just medial to your scapula and do it there. caution this will hurt like a bitch.
i did this for 3 days and the pain is gone.
Tweakle
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some of us are genetically predisposed to get hurt more than others, but it's usually age and bad form that do it
when I was a new lifter, I remember I would get hurt and badly with weights that I wouldn't bother warming up with now. My form is actually not that much better but I think the ligaments and tendons are stronger (in places) and of course AAS use helps a lot in recovery.
shit I remember getting hurt so badly I couldn't move out of bed for a couple of weeks with a 315 deadlift... and wrecking my shoulder with a 90lb OHP. Untrained bodies are fragile bodies.
when I was a new lifter, I remember I would get hurt and badly with weights that I wouldn't bother warming up with now. My form is actually not that much better but I think the ligaments and tendons are stronger (in places) and of course AAS use helps a lot in recovery.
shit I remember getting hurt so badly I couldn't move out of bed for a couple of weeks with a 315 deadlift... and wrecking my shoulder with a 90lb OHP. Untrained bodies are fragile bodies.
the injury issue is at hand for all of us, no matter how carefull we train, ive warmed up for what seemes like forever , only to pull a trap muscle, sore delts,calf pulls,lat pulls. i now have a torn acl in my left knee(work injury) but the setback is monumental. like madcow, i am sick of being injured, but through it all, i will come out on top, even if its just in my own head.the sense of achievement i recieve after a lifting session is more important to me than words can say, i will not stop, even with my torn acl, no leg work of course.
gjohnson5
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I am having to revisit the whole form issue when I bench. I have taken a long layoff due to many issues most of which were beyond my control and I am back after say 1.5 years. Many all of my lifts have come back close to where they were 1.5 years ago just after 2 weeks. My bench is gone and benching light weights also causes my right shoulder some issues. But I've been working out atleast 2 hours a day 7x a week. So some of my issues may be overtraining.
So watch out for that as well
So watch out for that as well
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FreakMonster
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I seem to be having constant back problems that won't go away. really sucks.
never had any problems with shoulders while doing bench or shoulder presses, I guess I'm lucky in that respect, although I don't throw around 300 lbs on bench either, I feel ya with being sick of working out with an injury though, I've been working legs with a fuc-ed up knee since last april, and everytime I would have another surgery, I'd have to start from scratch, I'm talking the bar with squats, sucks starting all over again, I'm just now getting some strength back in my left knee, squated a big 195 for 6 today!~!!, I know, its not much but 3 months ago I had to start over with the bar after my last surgery, again. And what really sucks is that I've got to start all over again after my next surgery in march ( this will be my last one hopefully)
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I dislocated my shoulder once benching pretty early in my training (the last year two years of training I finally gave it up completely). If a movement hurts don't do it. I find dumbbells to be superior to the barbell bench press anyways.
The only other injury I have had was a torn bicep, which I got by being a complete dumbass and overtraining by using way too much volume and high intensity techniques. I was doing my 2nd arm workout of the day and was doing rest-pause reps with 185 lbs on a curl bar.
The only other injury I have had was a torn bicep, which I got by being a complete dumbass and overtraining by using way too much volume and high intensity techniques. I was doing my 2nd arm workout of the day and was doing rest-pause reps with 185 lbs on a curl bar.
tfuray
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I feel your pain bro's. My shoulders used to hurt bad when I benched but only after racked the weight did it hurt. But for me when i learned not to flare my arms out it slowly went away. Now all I have to bitch about is forearm splints, a bad left wrist, and two f&*$ed up knees thanks to a few dirty haji's damn hand grenades in Iraq.
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