IGF-LR3 at a medium pace.....

[halfcenturian]

hehe!NO! HGH is a waste of money. We take it in the hope it will release IGF 1 from the liver. If your lucky you get 20micrograms thats gone in half an Hour, with Lr3IGF1 you take 20micrograms, and its still kicking around after 30 odd hours.

And HGH is priceier! IMO HGH is a prohomrone for th real stuff, IGF-1

Now, Im going to eat a cheescake and go to bed!

Dr. Cheesecake,

Please explain yourself in saying "HGH is a waste of money." I truly want to hear it. I'm sure some of the other members would like an explaination of your claim. Thanks.

 

[Dr James Daemon]

Er... the answer is pretty clear, and Ive just typed this on a another board (the darkside)

Ok. You take HGH. You take it to get all the magical hyperplasia, hypetrophy effects. Yes, there are fat loss effects that occur just from GH- but thats about it. (I am citing from a medical textbook at this point)

HGH anabolic effects in skeletal muscle are mediated by IGF-1. If you want to gain muscle tissue- HGH is only a prohormone there fore for IGF-1 The form produced in the boyd has a very short half life.

Lr3 IGF 1 doesnt, and is there for more effective than naturally released HGH.Also their is a ceiling to much natural HGH you can produce at any time. Not so with an IGF injection.

Also, GH is more expensive than IGF.

Not to mention its GH that is the main culrpit in Insulin resistence, and you have to take it with a host of other drugs to make your already substantial investment worthwhile, whera as someone else already correctly stated, you can use IGF by itself and still gain lean mass, and lose fat, even if youre bedridden.

Just imagine you take a shitty prohormone hoping for the results the conversioin will bring, then you do a shot of test, which will be cheaper. Same thing.

Does that clear that one up...? The only reasonm I know that people us GH if they have access to IGF is that they get it free, or they use 2iu's daily for fat loss. But PGCL will shred you for even less than that, so its all a bit of a no brainer really.

Also, you'll find that you will lose some of that weight when you come off, alot of it will be water...

Next question!

 

[medrep]

title made me think of Adam Sandlers song" at a medium pace" LOL.

+1

 

[BigBlu]

Er... the answer is pretty clear, and Ive just typed this on a another board (the darkside)

Ok. You take HGH. You take it to get all the magical hyperplasia, hypetrophy effects. Yes, there are fat loss effects that occur just from GH- but thats about it. (I am citing from a medical textbook at this point)

HGH anabolic effects in skeletal muscle are mediated by IGF-1. If you want to gain muscle tissue- HGH is only a prohormone there fore for IGF-1 The form produced in the boyd has a very short half life.

Lr3 IGF 1 doesnt, and is there for more effective than naturally released HGH.Also their is a ceiling to much natural HGH you can produce at any time. Not so with an IGF injection.

Also, GH is more expensive than IGF.

Not to mention its GH that is the main culrpit in Insulin resistence, and you have to take it with a host of other drugs to make your already substantial investment worthwhile, whera as someone else already correctly stated, you can use IGF by itself and still gain lean mass, and lose fat, even if youre bedridden.

Just imagine you take a shitty prohormone hoping for the results the conversioin will bring, then you do a shot of test, which will be cheaper. Same thing.

Does that clear that one up...? The only reasonm I know that people us GH if they have access to IGF is that they get it free, or they use 2iu's daily for fat loss. But PGCL will shred you for even less than that, so its all a bit of a no brainer really.

Also, you'll find that you will lose some of that weight when you come off, alot of it will be water...

Next question!

I completely agree with you. I have used both GH and IGF-1 and I think GH is a complete waste of money for bodybuilding. IGF-1 is the business.

 

[halfcenturian]

Er... the answer is pretty clear, and Ive just typed this on a another board (the darkside)

Ok. You take HGH. You take it to get all the magical hyperplasia, hypetrophy effects. Yes, there are fat loss effects that occur just from GH- but thats about it. (I am citing from a medical textbook at this point)

HGH anabolic effects in skeletal muscle are mediated by IGF-1. If you want to gain muscle tissue- HGH is only a prohormone there fore for IGF-1 The form produced in the boyd has a very short half life.

Lr3 IGF 1 doesnt, and is there for more effective than naturally released HGH.Also their is a ceiling to much natural HGH you can produce at any time. Not so with an IGF injection.

Also, GH is more expensive than IGF.

Not to mention its GH that is the main culrpit in Insulin resistence, and you have to take it with a host of other drugs to make your already substantial investment worthwhile, whera as someone else already correctly stated, you can use IGF by itself and still gain lean mass, and lose fat, even if youre bedridden.

Just imagine you take a shitty prohormone hoping for the results the conversioin will bring, then you do a shot of test, which will be cheaper. Same thing.

Does that clear that one up...? The only reasonm I know that people us GH if they have access to IGF is that they get it free, or they use 2iu's daily for fat loss. But PGCL will shred you for even less than that, so its all a bit of a no brainer really.

Also, you'll find that you will lose some of that weight when you come off, alot of it will be water...

Next question!

Clear as mud. Do the HGH manufacturers know this? HRT clinics? Yikes!
Why wouldn't all their HGH / HRT clinic patients opt for this shortcut?
Maybe they are ! I'm talking about the 45 and older crowd. If I can acheive the same effect, in less time, at a drastically reduced price... I would ditch the humatrope, saizen, soma , jin, etc., etc., for IGF-lr3.
Do I have this straight Doc? Many thanks!!!

 

[missionpossible]

I have used igf during and after pct and had great results on both maintaining and gaining a few more lbs of lean mass along with losing some fat. On the other hand, with GH I've only seen a slight loss of fat and numb hands and sore joints to hang out with my empty wallet!

 

[Vascular Freak]

Pimps,
I am thinking about adding IGF-LR3 to my test cyp, eq cycle for 4 weeks at 30mcg pwo then again during pct, which will be hcg, clomid, and nolva.extremefighters post was fantastic and has me thinking about this very seriously especially for fighting. Anyone else have experience incorporating into a cycle like mine. Please advise or I am going to post how shitty this board is and how I am going to leave this shithole. lol

This is way off topic so sorry bro but when I read the title I was dying laughing thinking of Adams Sandler song "stroke my cock at a medium pace"

Anyone remember that crazy shit haha

ON TOPIC though I would save IGF for PCT. I don;t really thinkyou would notice it much while using test and eq....jmho

 

[Vascular Freak]

title made me think of Adam Sandlers song" at a medium pace" LOL.

Sorry for reposting that..... I should have read all the posts before jumping at it!

 

[rfowler]

Sorry for reposting that..... I should have read all the posts before jumping at it!

now shave off my pubes and punch me on the face.........I was listening to the cd when I started this thread.