Igf And Cancer??

[danasti]

I have just joined this forum and I notice a few threads about IGF. I am just about to get some but have read the links that it can massively increase the rate at which cancer grows at. I have e mailed Milos Sarcev and have been on a few other boards and the consensus is that this stuff should be left alone as any cnacer you may have WILL be sped up by using a lot of HGH and more so IGF which is directly more powerful.
Any thoughts or opinions on this?
My queries lie with the fact that you very rarely haer of bodybuilders getting cancer even though HGH has been used loads in the past 15 years.
I wanna get some and increase my 220lb frame but am concerned as you can see, and I would feel others would also be concerned!

It's my belief from what I have read stating long r3igf-1 or hgh either causes or exacerbates cancer is overstated and sometimes the science is misinterpreted. Don't get me wrong, if you are going to use it, use it at a responsible dose for a responsible time period and as with all other substances, pay close attention to your body. In the scientific and medical communities many believe that athletes taking hgh or AAS are equilivalent to recreational drug users, they believe that it is wrong and immoral to use it for this purpose... Some believe in this so strongly that many so called "studies" have been proven to be concieved of nothing more than fear-mongering and their results are basically junk. Unfortunately many of these conclusions still live on in the form of an urban myth. We know for a fact that certain scientists will substitute fiction for fact as their means justify their end in creating the world they find morally acceptable. Now just because I've known a good deal of people who have taken hgh and none had cancer or have cancer (that I know of) doesn't mean that it won't increase cancers growth. That means nothing scientifically. But just because they find igf in tumors doesn't mean that igf caused the cancer to grow.

The harvard study linking bst to prostate cancer is like comparing apples to oranges when you substitute the bovine growth hormone for media grade long r3igf-1. Honestly though I buy my milk free of bst, FARMLAND DAIRYS, if you're interested. I did this after looking at the effects it had on the COWS I saw in a documentary, after seeing that shit I'll hopefully never drink it again. But I've seen people on igf-1 and they weren't having the same serious problems as the cows. That's just my opinion anyways.

 

[digimon7068]

I dont know how old you guys are, but I guess that doesn't matter..... Listen, if you have cancer, you get sick..... Ok, sure there are stories you hear where a person didn't know they had a tumor, but that's pretty rare.... Usually, cancer tumors will show themselves to you in some way.... You will feel a lump, you will get sick, you get weak, you will get pain.... Something will happen to make you go to the doctor..... Like I said, this isn't the story EVERYTIME, but 90% of the cases it presents itself.....

rizz

I don't know, man. Lance Armstrong didn't know he had the shit until it had taken up residence in quite a few areas of his body. In fact, if it hadn't invaded his lungs which caused the fatigue, that caused him to seek medical attention, he almost certainly would have died.

 

[thx9000]

If it's in the books that your going to die from something,there's nothing you can do to avoid it forever.Steroids play a big part in my having cancer but who's to say if it was the HGH or steroids? Eat Right,Keep Fit and Die Anyway is my motto since then. My life since cancer has taught me 1 thing,you can't avoid it if it's meant to happen. It will come back with a vengence or not come back at all. It's a mystery,is'nt it ?

I forget, how much GH had you been taking ED over the years?

 

[HGH man]

I forget, how much GH had you been taking ED over the years?

4iusED

 

[gjohnson5]

For 90% of US public it's NOT common knowledge. In fact, it's not even known because the corporations do NOT have to put it in the ingredients, they can choose to put it as a "natural and artifical flavors."

So, NO , it's NOT common knowledge at all

Also my understanding is that MSG has many forms not just monosodium glutamate. I was under the impression many items with free form glutamic acid are candidates.

 

[Big_Joe]

So you're okay with the potential CA risks attributed to elevated free test or other powerful androgens but not GH?

Actually I did a lot of research before I began this. One of the studies that convinced me to go ahead was this one:
Klienfelter
and this one:Klienfelters2

These studies show that people with low test levels, Klienfelters is a genetic low test problem, have a higher incidence, three and a half times, of the type of cancer I had. Also the chemo gave me type 2 diabetes. I did a lot of research on it and used androstenediol to treat it. I have completely cured my diabetes. Because I had low test levels and using andro cured my diabetes I thought it was a good idea to get my test levels higher.

I did consider the increased risk of prostate cancer. But my PSA is .5 and there is no history of it in my family so I didn't worry about it to much.

So far I have only used test and tren. And before I used tren I researched it on medline and found studies that showed it did not increase the risk of cancer.

Next year I was going to give primo a try. The main reason I picked primo is it has low side effects. And cancer is not one of them.

I know that a lot of guys on here use steroids to get bigger. I am a little different. I am using them to rebuild my body after debilitating illness. What they were made for in the first place. But because steroids have gotten such a bad rap from abuse I cann't get a doctor to help me with it so I am doing it myself.

Before I got sick I was an athlete. And I kick my ass and use every tool I have to recover and be an athlete still.

And by the way, I saw my oncologist yesterday. He says I am fine and don't come back for at least a year. I WON! I kicked cancers ass!!!! I AM AN ATHLETE!