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Igf And Cancer??

Prizz said:
I Listen, if you have cancer, you get sick..... Ok, sure there are stories you hear where a person didn't know they had a tumor, but that's pretty rare.... Usually, cancer tumors will show themselves to you in some way.... You will feel a lump, you will get sick, you get weak, you will get pain.... Something will happen to make you go to the doctor..... Like I said, this isn't the story EVERYTIME, but 90% of the cases it presents itself.....

I have no exp using IGF yet, so I understand your concerns, but I don't think it should stop you from using it..... Look at it this way, if you do have some cancer tumor hiding, and the IGF will make it grow, you will find it that much faster, and get it taken care of..... If you have cancer, you have cancer, and it's gonna suck..... I think the IGF/Cancer phobia will diminish in time....

rizz


The problem with this kind of thinking is that not all cancers produce tumors. Skin cancer, for example, doesn't produce huge, quick growing lumps which are readily noticeable but rather basel cells which are cancerous. Leukemia is essentially cancer of the blood and acute forms can kill you within weeks. The only statement you made I agree with is that there is no single test for all the cancers one might get.

To recommend IGF by saying

"the IGF will make it grow, you will find it that much faster, and get it taken care of"

is just plain irresponsible and you're playing with people's lives when you say it. Are you sure you really want to do that? The bottom line is that science really isn't certain as to the exact extent by which IGF effects cancer.
 
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is just plain irresponsible and you're playing with people's lives when you say it. Are you sure you really want to do that? The bottom line is that science really isn't certain as to the exact extent by which IGF effects cancer.



Wait a second.... I'm playing with people's lives? ME? I'm not a doctor.... I'm just giving my opinion, that's all it is, an opinion.... If you think somone on here will take my word as law, then I question their medical constitution..... I'm just some dude that lifts weights, and reads about compounds that are supposed to make you bigger.... I don't claim to be some expert.... Wow, should I have a disclaimer after my posts now? I really don't think anyone takes these posts as law.... Just a way to get info, that's it.... At least I hope that's how it is..... Most board members are intelligent enough to make their own decisions..... Playing with people's lives? Pfffftt....

rizz
 
To recommend IGF by saying

"the IGF will make it grow, you will find it that much faster, and get it taken care of"

is just plain irresponsible and you're playing with people's lives when you say it. Are you sure you really want to do that? The bottom line is that science really isn't certain as to the exact extent by which IGF effects cancer.

I agree. you dont know how fast that tumor will grow. what it if grows to a point that your doc cant do much. the whole point is not to let it grow.
 
read this - http://www.mmsfitness.com/steroid_newsletter/parabens-cancer.html

this is your daily body wash, soap or spray, you're using it and it causes cancer. Forget IGF-1, look at your daily life and you'll know what you're eating, drinking, breathing that will eventually cause cancer.

IGF-1 and cancer, I wouldn't worry about it unless you're an abuser. If you abuse IGF, what can I say ? most idiots dig their own grave.

P.S. please donate $8 to my charity there

Mr.X
 
My whole thing is that this board has alot of opinions on it.... We're talking about drugs that are new, lil research is done on them, and we discuss stuff.... Just cause I post that in my opinion IGF isn't gonna cause cancer, doesn't mean it wont.... I have no idea, but by the studies I have read, it seems to me that it won't (My opinion)..... Just cause I think the guy is worrying a bit too much, doesn't mean I'm telling him to do it..... Lots of smart guys on this board, they have enough sense to know the information on here isn't Law...

rizz
 
In my opinion...cancer IS something to be paranoid about.....I have lost 2 uncles and a grandfather to cancer that wasn't found until they showed symptoms...THEN IT WAS TOO LATE! Don't tell me that a product will make it grow faster so you can find it sooner...MANY MANY MANY times its too late when the symptoms start...not rarely!
 
reigninghard said:
In my opinion...cancer IS something to be paranoid about.....I have lost 2 uncles and a grandfather to cancer that wasn't found until they showed symptoms...THEN IT WAS TOO LATE! Don't tell me that a product will make it grow faster so you can find it sooner...MANY MANY MANY times its too late when the symptoms start...not rarely!


When I said it makes it grow faster, then you will find it sooner, I was trying to make a point.... The point is you can't just worry that you have a tumor hiding in you somewhere, and live your life accordingly.... So why do juice then? or GH?, or even take a Tylenol when you have a headache.... Any of those compounds could maybe possibley make your hidden tumors come out faster too..... I was trying to point out the paranoia, not reccomend doing IGF to find your cancer..... And it is Rare for you to have a tumor, and not have symptoms..... Symptoms might be subtle depending on the type of tumor, but there are usually symptoms.... People might ignore them, but they are present..... No one wants cancer, and everyone is afraid of it to an extent.... However, I'm not gonna live my life afraid of getting cancer.... Not gonna move to the country so I don't get lung cancer, stay out of the Sun so I don't get skin cancer, not use deoderant cause it has Aluminum in it that MIGHT cause cancer.... Look, if youre afraid of the cancer risks, don't take the compound, it's that simple.....

rizz
 
Prizz said:
When I said it makes it grow faster, then you will find it sooner, I was trying to make a point.... The point is you can't just worry that you have a tumor hiding in you somewhere, and live your life accordingly.... So why do juice then? or GH?, or even take a Tylenol when you have a headache.... Any of those compounds could maybe possibley make your hidden tumors come out faster too..... I was trying to point out the paranoia, not reccomend doing IGF to find your cancer..... And it is Rare for you to have a tumor, and not have symptoms..... Symptoms might be subtle depending on the type of tumor, but there are usually symptoms.... People might ignore them, but they are present..... No one wants cancer, and everyone is afraid of it to an extent.... However, I'm not gonna live my life afraid of getting cancer.... Not gonna move to the country so I don't get lung cancer, stay out of the Sun so I don't get skin cancer, not use deoderant cause it has Aluminum in it that MIGHT cause cancer.... Look, if youre afraid of the cancer risks, don't take the compound, it's that simple.....

rizz

I agree
 
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