I grew up in a world that didn't have cardio...

[powerforward]

sofageorge, aren't you like 34? how do you remember what the 70's was like?

 

[SofaGeorge]

sofageorge, aren't you like 34? how do you remember what the 70's was like?

Maybe because I haven't been 34 for a long time.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Sofa, I think we may be talking about 2 different things, which happens alot lately. So you mean to tell me that you don't think working your heart (cardio = heart work) improves your health?

I know it can be detrimental to your health if overdone, as can ANY type of exercise. But if done in moderation, it DEFINITELY improves health...and the adaptations that your body makes to cardio will increase FFA utilization.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Sofa, I think we may be talking about 2 different things, which happens alot lately. So you mean to tell me that you don't think working your heart (cardio = heart work) improves your health?

I know it can be detrimental to your health if overdone, as can ANY type of exercise. But if done in moderation, it DEFINITELY improves health...and the adaptations that your body makes to cardio will increase FFA utilization.

I sprint as part of my program... so we aren't on different planets.

I'm more against the concept of "cardio" as a weightloss miracle. People are brainwashed these days to think they are hoping on the treadmill and burning off the bodyfat. They don't stop and look at the history of exercise. In the '30s if you went out and planted fence posts all day, cut hay, and then milked the cows ... you would have been thought to have spent a day BUILDING your body through activity. In the '60s if you went running... people would consider you BUILDING your body and your health... getting bigger and stronger. It was only in the '70s when the running/aerobics fad started turning into a multi billion dollar industry selling classes, tapes, shoes, clothes, magazines, etc... that cardio became linked to losing body fat... or getting smaller.

I worked out at Gold's Venice for almost a decade... and only saw one or maybe two pros EVER on a treadmill... and then only once or twice. Back in the days of Arnold... I doubt you would have ever even found one.

 

[Bulldog_10]

I sprint as part of my program... so we aren't on different planets.

I'm more against the concept of "cardio" as a weightloss miracle. People are brainwashed these days to think they are hoping on the treadmill and burning off the bodyfat. They don't stop and look at the history of exercise. In the '30s if you went out and planted fence posts all day, cut hay, and then milked the cows ... you would have been thought to have spent a day BUILDING your body through activity. In the '60s if you went running... people would consider you BUILDING your body and your health... getting bigger and stronger. It was only in the '70s when the running/aerobics fad started turning into a multi billion dollar industry selling classes, tapes, shoes, clothes, magazines, etc... that cardio became linked to losing body fat... or getting smaller.

I worked out at Gold's Venice for almost a decade... and only saw one or maybe two pros EVER on a treadmill... and then only once or twice. Back in the days of Arnold... I doubt you would have ever even found one.

Ok, so you're saying it's not a fat loss miracle, but it IS healthy. I'll agree to that.

But aerobic work, if done right...can promote fat loss.

 

[SofaGeorge]

Ok, so you're saying it's not a fat loss miracle, but it IS healthy. I'll agree to that.

But aerobic work, if done right...can promote fat loss.

I didn't say it was healthy. You said that. I'm an agnostic.

RE aerobic work promoting fat lost... that is like saying you can dig to China with a spoon. A spoon won't get you very far but it can dig.

 

[Bulldog_10]

I didn't say it was healthy. You said that. I'm an agnostic.

RE aerobic work promoting fat lost... that is like saying you can dig to China with a spoon. A spoon won't get you very far but it can dig.

So you don't think it's healthy? Not even for the heart?

And the spoon analogy is way off...if you do cardio at a specific percentage of your VO2max, you can assure yourself that you are burning mostly fat. Not only that, when you do endurance work, your body increases its fat stores near mitochondria = more easily oxidized fat.

It also increases the ability of the coronary arteries to dilate...increases blood volume without increasing RBC count = less viscous blood...increased insulin sensitivity...the list goes on and on.

To say that working your heart is not healthy is one of the most rediculous things I've ever heard.

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

if i would have read this thread and still been wrestling in high school i would have tried my darndest to get some sort of strong diuretic and I would never have had to run for an hour before a meet to sweat off .7 lb. why dont more people just try that.


im going to cook some popcorn and tuna and sit back and watch this thread

 

[Bulldog_10]

if i would have read this thread and still been wrestling in high school i would have tried my darndest to get some sort of strong diuretic and I would never have had to run for an hour before a meet to sweat off .7 lb. why dont more people just try that.


im going to cook some popcorn and tuna and sit back and watch this thread

What does that even mean?

 

[RADAR]

Sofa thanks for the walk down memory lane.....i remember those machines that the fat ladies got on that would shake their fannies to death,why i even used em a few times to blend my protein shake...yes back in those days a gym was a true gym no fancy machines just concrete wall and lots of iron,heck we even watched a black & white tv with only one channel that went off the air at 12 midnight and this was around 1958.hee hee!
So you kids now a days pretty much have it made!


RADAR