I call bullshit on keeping gains after a cycle!

[BloodyMule]

I don't know about you guys but if I train for a year NATURAL and then quit for a few months I would lose all my gains so whats the difference.

Very good point..

 

[M56M]

In my personal experience....

I have a quite a few friends who juice, and it is very obvious to tell the ones that keep on training and the ones who don't. I hung out with this kid last summer every weekend he was ripped and looked really good, went to school for a year, when i saw him this summer you couldn't even tell that he touched a steroid in his life. BTW, he has done 4 cycle...he is just plain stupid. When i asked him what happen, he said what are you talking about...give me a few weeks i just started....my next cycle.

Moral of the story...if you stop and get discourage eveytime your strength drops, you will never move forward. Just keep training and make every cycle better than the last, not bigger, just better....

...but some people will never learn.

M56M

 

[willing2be-freaky]

Re: Re: I call bullshit on keeping gains after a cycle!

But there is a point at which gains do not come easily - that is what you are neglecting to consider....

Thus it is 12 or more pounds frist cycle, and the next and the next... until the body stops responding. It's like when I first smoked a joint - I was floored. I can now smoke a whole 1/8 of skunk in 4 joints.

Diminished returns.

i agree with what everyone is saying except gary dude weed is one of the only drugs to have a reverse tolerance hence the more you smoke the less u need to get high im down to about a nick bag of downtown brown lol

 

[DrJay]

On this past cycle I gained about 18 lbs. Now almost a month later I have kept 13 of it and am much leaner as that 5 must have been water weight. I didn't even use clen this time either - I'm taking clen and so far have no complaints!

 

[3Vandoo]

I kept almost as 85% of what I gained, so im a big huge and strong mofo

The only difference that I perceived after cycles is my endurance...

Ex:
Thats the exercise ( machine that I noticed the difference )
Pec Deck, on cycle 6x15 at 400 ( whole stack ) Off cycle same weight but 4x8

 

[FarBeyondDriven]

I would have to agree with this. My first couple cycles I literally swelled. After that slower and slower it seems. I love the strength though. Your body will only hold so much, genetics. And eventually when you stop, bang back to that point.

 

[AnabolicDiabetic]

If you have a core group of people working out naturally, eventually a hierarchy of physiques will begin to express itself- from the best to the worst in term of symmetry etc. If you then give all these guys AAS and get them jacked of their ass, they will all get bigger and better overall, but the hierarchy will remain the same. The same people who were at the top naturally will remain there on AAS. All the AAS will do is bump up the overall base standard. AAS are not miracle drugs...they do certain things and they do it well.

 

[68GT350]

This arguement seems kinda pointless.

When will everyone finally realize, "RESULTS MAY VARY."

If everyone was affected by everything the same way, we'd all look alike. If you have a problem with muscles loss, work harder or get over it. Just my opinion...what do i know anyway!

 

[acneman]

i agree this is me on the juice

 

[acneman]

and damit just 6 weeks after cycle i look like this