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702daswoll1
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And then they are shooting the insulin 1 time per day post workout with the pw shake?
How the fuck has Milos Sarcev put 20lbs of muscle on 5 different top competitors?
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jumpmaster82
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ive always been terrified of insulin. But my interest is definitely peaking.
Powerbuilder333
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This is the first I've heard that using insulin with a high simple carb PWO meal can reduce the risk of type 2 diabetes. The logic behind it sounds reasonable.
Ghost: vanilla whey + water slowly sipped during training (after the key exercise of the day is completed) has been a big help to me.
Ghost: vanilla whey + water slowly sipped during training (after the key exercise of the day is completed) has been a big help to me.
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bbkingpin
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The fast acting is intended to minimize risk. If it is no longer effective after 4 hours, you don't have to worry or be on guard for more than those 4 hours. Keep sugar close at hand. I don't want to mislead. I never tried insulin, I don't intend to. Maybe if I was a professional bb'er. I tried glucophage or glyberide from a diabetic many years ago and my blood sugar went so low I felt like I would faint. I had to eat the candy he kept on hand while he laughed. Insulin (as opposed to drugs that affect natural insulin) must be even more dangerous/scary if your blood sugar drops fast and you have no sugar nearby. It's no joke. But some may be able to manage the risk. How big do you have to be? It makes you fat too if you don't know what you are doing. I'd only take it -- if at all -- with hGH and highly androgenic/anabolic steroids.
702daswoll1
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Hey power! Is Jay training at the flamingo/Sandhill location?
Powerbuilder333
Timeout? No, timeouts are for Plats
Every once in awhile. Usually he's at Sahara/Decatur in the morinings.702daswoll1 said:
702daswoll1
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Cool. Im gonna start stalking him. J/k
holy ghost
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fuck that , go get down with him and videotape it
then you can say you kicked the shit out of Mr olympia !!!
then you can say you kicked the shit out of Mr olympia !!!
Just to throw a few more .02 out here..
Most people have no problems with the post workout insulin use.. what they screw up on (and get fat from) is the fact that even rapid acting insulin peaks twice. They fail to plan for the second peak.
Unlike most people who use rapid acting HumalinR, Milos advocates Humalog which is supposingly even faster acting.
The pre and during shake that he advocates is not any kind of whey, but rather a large amount of BCAAs (theres like over 100 grams involved in all three shakes combined) and other stuff like Glutamin, creatine, etc.. (you can go to his Kolesium site - probably spelled that wrong - and see if the labels show the contents.. I can't remember exactly)
Insulin is a carrier protein and it helps shuttle the nutrients released into the bloodstream to the liver and other tissues like muscle when needed. So injecting insulin post-workout obviously means there's more of it around which means you basically get more amino acids and other nutrients shuttled to the muscle group you've trained so recuperation can begin.
The pre and during phase is simply nothing more than overloading the nutrients in the body so they are available in the bloodstream and already in the muscle from natural transport as much as possible.
Here is what he said about it :
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YES IT IS...
And here is why:
Think...human body has roughly 5 litters of blood distributed all over...
At rest - only about 15% finds its way to skeletal muscles.
When we become active, heart starts pumping blood faster...and blood follow the movement...
When TRAINING - up to 80 % of blood goes to MUSCLES!
Think: 80% and that is regardless IF you will create additional vasodilatation using NO products or not. [it always made me wonder HOW can fact of bringing MORE blood to muscles interest all of you - but fact that your blood is EMPTY and WILL NOT cause anything other than acute pump - pass unnoticed?)
So my question is:
1) WHEN will you have 80% of the blood in exact muscles you want to develop other than EXACTLY DURING THE TRAINING OF THAT PARTICULAR MUSCLE GROUP?
2) If you use NO product and possibly increase already unbelievable blood flow to the muscle caused by known physiological phenomenon (HYPEREMIA) but your blood is "unprepared" or completely EMPTY - what good will that hyperemia do?
Yes, some nutrients will be in the blood for some of those who follow good bodybuilding diet...but did you think WHAT ELSE could make a world of difference IF you make it available?
When you saturate the blood with EXACT NUTRIENTS that can make the difference - and than use HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE than and only than MIRACLE DOES HAPPEN - and that is what you can see with some of my athletes...In short period of time they somehow 'explode'...Off course - skeptics will think it is something else...but that something else everybody uses - anyway...
3) So when you prepare (saturate) the blood with exact nutrients with my PRELOAD drink and within 30 minutes you start training...and hyperemia reaches 80% and muscle you are training is overflown in blood - which is now super saturated with both anabolic and anti-catabolic nutrients and hormones (released BY content of my products) - WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN?
Well...whoever experience what I am talking about will know that simply NOT CONSIDERING WHAT I SAID HERE and training without it...is going to lead to much less productive training...thus = WASTE OF TIME.
And that's all I have to say .
Most people have no problems with the post workout insulin use.. what they screw up on (and get fat from) is the fact that even rapid acting insulin peaks twice. They fail to plan for the second peak.
Unlike most people who use rapid acting HumalinR, Milos advocates Humalog which is supposingly even faster acting.
The pre and during shake that he advocates is not any kind of whey, but rather a large amount of BCAAs (theres like over 100 grams involved in all three shakes combined) and other stuff like Glutamin, creatine, etc.. (you can go to his Kolesium site - probably spelled that wrong - and see if the labels show the contents.. I can't remember exactly)
Insulin is a carrier protein and it helps shuttle the nutrients released into the bloodstream to the liver and other tissues like muscle when needed. So injecting insulin post-workout obviously means there's more of it around which means you basically get more amino acids and other nutrients shuttled to the muscle group you've trained so recuperation can begin.
The pre and during phase is simply nothing more than overloading the nutrients in the body so they are available in the bloodstream and already in the muscle from natural transport as much as possible.
Here is what he said about it :
------------------------------
YES IT IS...
And here is why:
Think...human body has roughly 5 litters of blood distributed all over...
At rest - only about 15% finds its way to skeletal muscles.
When we become active, heart starts pumping blood faster...and blood follow the movement...
When TRAINING - up to 80 % of blood goes to MUSCLES!
Think: 80% and that is regardless IF you will create additional vasodilatation using NO products or not. [it always made me wonder HOW can fact of bringing MORE blood to muscles interest all of you - but fact that your blood is EMPTY and WILL NOT cause anything other than acute pump - pass unnoticed?)
So my question is:
1) WHEN will you have 80% of the blood in exact muscles you want to develop other than EXACTLY DURING THE TRAINING OF THAT PARTICULAR MUSCLE GROUP?
2) If you use NO product and possibly increase already unbelievable blood flow to the muscle caused by known physiological phenomenon (HYPEREMIA) but your blood is "unprepared" or completely EMPTY - what good will that hyperemia do?
Yes, some nutrients will be in the blood for some of those who follow good bodybuilding diet...but did you think WHAT ELSE could make a world of difference IF you make it available?
When you saturate the blood with EXACT NUTRIENTS that can make the difference - and than use HYPEREMIA ADVANTAGE than and only than MIRACLE DOES HAPPEN - and that is what you can see with some of my athletes...In short period of time they somehow 'explode'...Off course - skeptics will think it is something else...but that something else everybody uses - anyway...
3) So when you prepare (saturate) the blood with exact nutrients with my PRELOAD drink and within 30 minutes you start training...and hyperemia reaches 80% and muscle you are training is overflown in blood - which is now super saturated with both anabolic and anti-catabolic nutrients and hormones (released BY content of my products) - WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN?
Well...whoever experience what I am talking about will know that simply NOT CONSIDERING WHAT I SAID HERE and training without it...is going to lead to much less productive training...thus = WASTE OF TIME.
And that's all I have to say .
