How the fuck has Milos Sarcev put 20lbs of muscle on 5 different top competitors?

[holy ghost]

insulin gives you that shit look off season

vanadyl- man nelson you are chalkin up the past

nelson you have any info on glucophage or metaformin?

 

[Nelson Montana]

insulin gives you that shit look off season

vanadyl- man nelson you are chalkin up the past

nelson you have any info on glucophage or metaformin?

What kind of info?

Vanadyl does spike insulin. It's also toxic in the dosages that were recommended back then. (Up to 12mcgs daily).

 

[holy ghost]

Is vanadyl different than glucophage?

 

[justinjones1963]

Not to put a damper on enthusiasum but a lot of these stories are exagerated. I think it's funny that there are guys who ponder insulin use when they've barely tapped their NATURAL ability.

And in the meantime, there's a very simple way to use the power of insulin safely. Sugar and vandyl sulfate. That's right -- the one thing everone tries to avoid and an old outdated supplement from the 90's. I challange everyone who is looking to get bigger with insulin to drink two portions of BIG BLAST along with 3 mcgs of vanadly a day for one month. I guarantee, if you train heavy, get enough sleep and maintain a calorie surplus you'll be 10 pounds heavier. Will some of it be fat and water? Absolutely. But so would be the case with insulin.

Sorry for the rant. Carry on.

I agree 100% with you on this.

IMO no amateur should even think about touching insulin - period.

 

[702daswoll1]

I dont think this is exaggerated at all. Some of the top pros that train in Vegas are talking about this shit that Sarcev has come up with and they are all desperately trying to get some of his trainees to talk about it. Insulin is not something I would try anytime soon but like my boy Ghost says it is something to use only when anabolics and peptides no longer do the trick. Who knows I may never even get to that point. Im just interested in Sarcez's formula from a research standpoint.

 

[b_light]

lets not forget milos used synthol and made it look good unlike most jackasses that use it.

 

[702daswoll1]

Shameless bump.

 

[bbkingpin]

I dont think this is exaggerated at all. Some of the top pros that train in Vegas are talking about this shit that Sarcev has come up with and they are all desperately trying to get some of his trainees to talk about it. Insulin is not something I would try anytime soon but like my boy Ghost says it is something to use only when anabolics and peptides no longer do the trick. Who knows I may never even get to that point. Im just interested in Sarcez's formula from a research standpoint.

There is an interview with Milos Sarcev about the use of insulin, so it's not a secret. Try to Google it. You'll find it I think. The interview has been around a couple years.

Here's the EF thread with link to the interview:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...out-insulin-ifbb-pro-milos-sarcev-192879.html

 

[702daswoll1]

That link is not working for me. Page cannot be displayed.

 

[TRYNGETBIG32]

yea i saw an interview where is said he thought it was better to take amino in while you workout and not take as much protein. it was on a pro bodybuilding weekly show.