How strong....

[DBCooper]

and 6 d-bol and 750mgs of enathate(behind a week)

 

[spatts]

At least somebody realises that I am not trying to attack the steroid users. I really don't understand why you guys are going crazy.

Dood, like project said, it's all about presentation. Your first post is condescending to the people in this forum that are strong, do work hard, and are clean. Surely you can see that. I'm not personally offended by anything you said, as I'm not opperating under the illusion that I am lifetime clean or that I'm stronger off. I do think it was a bit of a presumptive slap in the face to my au naturale counterparts, though.

 

[louden_swain]

You don't need the juice to get big and strong.

I have been able to get well over 200lbs without enhancements.

Here are a few athletes who are drug free and are competing athe national level:

Spatts - Female - 198lbs - 335lb bench - 440lb dead - 425lb squat
B Fold - Male - 290lbs - 440lb bench - 702lb dead - 800lb squat
Bigguns - Female - 148lbs - 235lb bench - 435lb dead - 425lb squat

There are several others. . . . if you are visiting the chat room and discussion or the anabolic board, you have 170lbers to 200lbers who are juicing, who have no physique and can't even come close to boasting these numbers.

Other noticeable athletes:

PolishHammer77
RevexRevex
Lord Suston
T3c
JOKER


You can do it all natural with hard work!

 

[Liftbig]

......you'll never know when you get there, because you'll already be looking to go further.......

well said

 

[pwr_machine]

I think the original question may have been taken the wrong way by some. I'd like to know what bodyweight you're wondering about. I know tons of lifetime drug free powerlifters.

 

[spatts]

Spatts - Female - 198lbs - 335lb bench - 440lb dead - 425lb squat
B Fold - Male - 290lbs - 440lb bench - 702lb dead - 800lb squat
Bigguns - Female - 148lbs - 235lb bench - 435lb dead - 425lb squat

1 out of 3 ain't bad.

 

[revexrevex]

Anyway, back to original post.. I definetely think that how strong you get is a function of training and time. A level of 500 deadlift, 400 squat and 300 bench is achievable to an average person in 3 - 4 years, who trains using basic exercises and not a powerlifting routine. Obviously a person training Westside will get to those numbers faster. After that level, it is just a matter of consistency, not getting injured, etc.

 

[louden_swain]

As far as I am concerned there are no limits. . .all you have to do is have the drive and determination and you can achieve your goals.

 

[DBCooper]

ok I'll put my natural numbers crap gym meets/pr's 198-605squat 330 bench and a 550 pull at 3months after my 18th birthday, also pulled 600+ right out of the army at around 225 clean with crap training.

 

[dood]

You don't need the juice to get big and strong.

I have been able to get well over 200lbs without enhancements.

Here are a few athletes who are drug free and are competing athe national level:

Spatts - Female - 198lbs - 335lb bench - 440lb dead - 425lb squat
B Fold - Male - 290lbs - 440lb bench - 702lb dead - 800lb squat
Bigguns - Female - 148lbs - 235lb bench - 435lb dead - 425lb squat

There are several others. . . . if you are visiting the chat room and discussion or the anabolic board, you have 170lbers to 200lbers who are juicing, who have no physique and can't even come close to boasting these numbers.

Other noticeable athletes:

PolishHammer77
RevexRevex
Lord Suston
T3c
JOKER


You can do it all natural with hard work!

'
I thought I read in past posts that bfold wasn't natural?