How much adex ?

[sPHERE]

Hi,


Stats:
24 y/o
6"
210lbs
12% BF


Im planning my 4th cycle, and Im wondering what dosage I should be running A-dex at.

The cycle will be the following:

Week 1-14: Test E 750mg/week
Week 1-12: Deca 600mg/week
Week 1-6: 50mg Dbol/day
Week 1-16: 0.25mg Adex/day? Or more?
Week 7-12: 500ui HCG mon/thurs
Then PCT.

Im not very prone to gyno, although at 500mg test and 30mg dbol I started getting sore nips.

If I could I would avoid any AI at all, but I dont wanna get no gyno either so I have to run an AI.

Regards

 

[ALIN]

If your prone to gyno thats a pretty strong cycle . I would go with 0.50mg and adjust it up or down from there.

 

[joeblow12345]

0.5 mg eod should be sufficient at 750. Your going to need some caber for the deca. 0.5 mg every 3rd day is good.

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[joeblow12345]

Id also run hcg through first week of pct. What is your pct? Deca aint no bitch, its hard to recover from for most, make sure you run a good pct. And I would also bridge with sarms, peptides, or need to's bridge.

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[sPHERE]

Id also run hcg through first week of pct. What is your pct? Deca aint no bitch, its hard to recover from for most, make sure you run a good pct. And I would also bridge with sarms, peptides, or need to's bridge.

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I've always thought HCG itself is quite suppressive, so using it prior to PCT is the best thing to do, to keep them boys alive.

Also, caber/dostinex/bromo seems darn impossible to get where Im at, but still trying..If im unable to get it I might consider sending back my deca for some EQ..But most people tend to do fine with deca without it also, but as you said it might be harder to recover from due to progesterone buildup.

For PCT I was thinking:

Week 16&17: 40mg Nolva, 12.5mg Aromasin ED
Week 18&19: 20mg Nolva, 12.5mg Aromasin ED
+ highly upping both my omegas and multivitamins throughout the PCT.

Im also considering buying some of needto's stuff..

 

[joeblow12345]

I've always thought HCG itself is quite suppressive, so using it prior to PCT is the best thing to do, to keep them boys alive.

Also, caber/dostinex/bromo seems darn impossible to get where Im at, but still trying..If im unable to get it I might consider sending back my deca for some EQ..But most people tend to do fine with deca without it also, but as you said it might be harder to recover from due to progesterone buildup.

For PCT I was thinking:

Week 16&17: 40mg Nolva, 12.5mg Aromasin ED
Week 18&19: 20mg Nolva, 12.5mg Aromasin ED
+ highly upping both my omegas and multivitamins throughout the PCT.

Im also considering buying some of needto's stuff..

Hcg can be slightly suppresive but so are steroids. It does a good job kickstarting the testes back into action. I run it from the last week of cycle through the first week of pct. It works fine for me. When your nipples start leaking youll wish you had caber. You can also use prami instead but it makes alot of people feel like shit( myself included). For pct dont run nolva with deca, they dont mix well. A low dose clomid(25 mg day) is much more efficient. The post cycle/ unleashed combo works very well with it. I reccomend it because I have used it with success. For your bridge after cycle anyone of those options I gave is great. Hell you can use one after another if you want. Lastly your aromasin dose is too high, 12.5 eod is sufficient.

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[needtogetaas]

Hi,


Stats:
24 y/o
6"
210lbs
12% BF


Im planning my 4th cycle, and Im wondering what dosage I should be running A-dex at.

The cycle will be the following:

Week 1-14: Test E 750mg/week
Week 1-12: Deca 600mg/week
Week 1-6: 50mg Dbol/day
Week 1-16: 0.25mg Adex/day? Or more?
Week 7-12: 500ui HCG mon/thurs
Then PCT.

Im not very prone to gyno, although at 500mg test and 30mg dbol I started getting sore nips.

If I could I would avoid any AI at all, but I dont wanna get no gyno either so I have to run an AI.

Regards

why would you take a type 1 ai during any cycle let alone that one bro? Its going to fuck with your cholesterol a lot and the fact it does not differentiate between Type 1 and type 2 estrogen is going to fuck with your sex drive a lot more to... Stick with a type 2 ai man here read this
- Need To Build Muscle Inc. Official Blog

 

[dylangemelli]

Hi,


Stats:
24 y/o
6"
210lbs
12% BF


Im planning my 4th cycle, and Im wondering what dosage I should be running A-dex at.

The cycle will be the following:

Week 1-14: Test E 750mg/week
Week 1-12: Deca 600mg/week
Week 1-6: 50mg Dbol/day
Week 1-16: 0.25mg Adex/day? Or more?
Week 7-12: 500ui HCG mon/thurs
Then PCT.

Im not very prone to gyno, although at 500mg test and 30mg dbol I started getting sore nips.

If I could I would avoid any AI at all, but I dont wanna get no gyno either so I have to run an AI.

Regards

if you were getting sore nips at 500 and 30 then you need to be very careful at 750 and 50 bro... running dbol 6 weeks is pretty fucking long and especially at 50 mg... most people kick at 30 for 4 weeks so you are really pushing it to the max here... you should take n2guard alongside any orals, especially running them for that long... your really risking some internal damage taking anything methylated without proper protection... definitely take caber with deca as well and for fucks sake, please do not even consider running nolva with deca... that is the worst thing you could possibly do... you will love unleashed/post cycle in your pct along with a low dose of clomid and forma stanzol... you will recover wonderfully... deca is definitely no punk and you could really run hcg and extra 2 weeks on top of what your running if you want... you definitely need to run an ai as well here though I think you already understand this... just be careful with this cycle because there are some many things here that could bring on issues... just cover your bases on everything...

 

[sPHERE]

if you were getting sore nips at 500 and 30 then you need to be very careful at 750 and 50 bro... running dbol 6 weeks is pretty fucking long and especially at 50 mg... most people kick at 30 for 4 weeks so you are really pushing it to the max here... you should take n2guard alongside any orals, especially running them for that long... your really risking some internal damage taking anything methylated without proper protection... definitely take caber with deca as well and for fucks sake, please do not even consider running nolva with deca... that is the worst thing you could possibly do... you will love unleashed/post cycle in your pct along with a low dose of clomid and forma stanzol... you will recover wonderfully... deca is definitely no punk and you could really run hcg and extra 2 weeks on top of what your running if you want... you definitely need to run an ai as well here though I think you already understand this... just be careful with this cycle because there are some many things here that could bring on issues... just cover your bases on everything...

Prog.gyno wont be an issue as long as I keep the estrogen in check, which ofcourse is very important at this stage. (hence the thread).


About AI type 1 or 2, people have been using adex for a very long time during cycles, havent they? I've been using both Arimidex and Aromasin, but since Aromasin is very much more expensive, this time around I didn't go the extra mile and get it, though I am very well aware of the sides of both Adex and Aromasin. Thanks for the link tho, read it all the way through

Will go for the Unleashed/Post-Cycle combo and maybe the Phytoserms, it's a good 6 months 'till cycle starts anyway.

Never too soon to start planning

Also, if i throw in proviron at 25 or 50mg a day for the entire cycle up until PCT, how will that affect my adex dosage? Could I lower it in that case?

 

[dylangemelli]

are you insinuating that if you take an ai that you won't need caber or prami with deca? that my friend, its not right, and you will learn the hard way if you think otherwise...

 

[sPHERE]

are you insinuating that if you take an ai that you won't need caber or prami with deca? that my friend, its not right, and you will learn the hard way if you think otherwise...

Well, after reading a couple of reports, and also this thread:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pct-post-steroid-cycle-therapy/deca-dostinex-must-607429-2.html

There seems to be people that will say that an AI will hinder progesterone buildup, as progesterone seems to be dependant on high estrogen levels to be able to cause problems in men. There also seems to be people that will say otherwise, but all in all there are no reports that I can find that proves that Deca will cause prolactin buildup, only progesterone, which is dependant on estrogen.

But anyway i will ofcourse try to get some of the compounds you mentioned, but they seem to be impossible to find, and customs are strict here, so ordering online from overseas is definately not an option.

 

[dylangemelli]

Well, after reading a couple of reports, and also this thread:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/pct-post-steroid-cycle-therapy/deca-dostinex-must-607429-2.html

There seems to be people that will say that an AI will hinder progesterone buildup, as progesterone seems to be dependant on high estrogen levels to be able to cause problems in men. There also seems to be people that will say otherwise, but all in all there are no reports that I can find that proves that Deca will cause prolactin buildup, only progesterone, which is dependant on estrogen.

But anyway i will ofcourse try to get some of the compounds you mentioned, but they seem to be impossible to find, and customs are strict here, so ordering online from overseas is definately not an option.

what country are you in? i might be able to point you in the right direction...

 

[sPHERE]

norway

 

[dylangemelli]

norway

send me a pm... link this thread and i'll get to you when i get home today bro

 

[sPHERE]

thanks man