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[Nelson Montana]

You have absolutely lost it mentally. Everything your saying is going agaianst all the sports scientists who've studied the human anatomy for the past 100 50yrs
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NO IT DOESN'T AND PULLING A COMMENT OUT OF YOUR ASS DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY MORE BELIEVABLE.



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20 reps is not Srength you IDIOT.

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AS SOON AS SOMEONE STARTS NAME CALLING BECAUSE THEY DISAGREE SHOWS AN OBVIOUS LACK OF INTELLENGENCE SO THAT MAY EXPLAIN THE FIRST COMMENT.


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Absolute strength is determined from lifting the most weight you can for 1 rep.


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YET ANOTHER FACT PULLED FROM YOUR ASS. APPARENTLY THIS IS THE SOURCE OF MUCH OF YOUR INFORMATION.

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To test 20rep max is not a test of strength, its a test of muscle endurance and energy reserves.

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SOMETHING THAT TAKES 20 SECONDS IS NOT WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A FEAT OF ENDURENCE. PERHAPS YOU'VE HEARD DIFFERENTLY. BETTER CONSULT YOUR ASS.


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And NO, 1 rep max is not more the matter of tendon, ligiments and bone strength mate. If your muscles can only contract fully with 100kg on the bench press, it doesnt matter how streong your tendons and bones are. The only way thats possible is if you have very stroing muscles and weak tendons and bones which wont happen cause training with your near max's will get u used to it.

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I DON'T THINK THERE'S EVEN A COGENT SENTENCE IN THAT PARAGRAPH SO I CAN'T COMMENT.


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And 1rep max's dont injure you, stop being a pussy.


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MANY INJURIES OCCUR FROM A ONE REP MAX OR A MAXIMUM POUNDAGE LIFT OF SOME SORT. BEING SMART DOESN'T MEAN BEING A PUSSY. LIFTING MORE WEIGHT FOR 2 SECONDS DOESN'T MAKE YOU MORE OF A MAN.


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Ive done 95%-100% of my max a few times a month and ive been injury free for a long time and im benching 300+ and deadlifting 480lbs with no belt.

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SO WHAT.


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CONCLUSION. You sound like a weak guy who wants to feel better about himself.

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I FEEL FINE ABOUT MYSELF. YOU, ON THE OTHER HAND, SOUND VERY ANGRY. AND NOT PARTICULARLY BRIGHT.

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[Selene]

very interesting, good post, thank you for posting

 

[hard2handle]

no1 do you know who Nelson is? Have you seen this guy? Doesn't look weak to me.

 

[no1_brawler]

Dont need to know him. His whole point of view is bullshit. Theres only one way to test maximum strength and thats by actually going i and doing your max. No shortcuts to that

 

[hard2handle]

Ok this thread has nothing to do with maximum strength. You made it about that. Just keep posting your gains. We'll be watching.

 

[silver_shadow]

actually it does have lots to do with max strength. read the original post carefully and notice how he says 1RMs aren't a true test of bodybuilder strength!

 

[Nelson Montana]

actually it does have lots to do with max strength. read the original post carefully and notice how he says 1RMs aren't a true test of bodybuilder strength!

It's amazing how some people will take information with value to many and scrutinize it in every way possible in order to dissmiss it in order to comply with their own prejudices. What's up with that?

I maintain that a one rep max is not the end all be all indicator of strength, ESPECIALLY for a bodybuilder, since it won't do much in terms of building muscle. It's also responsible for many injuries.

Strength can be guadged in many ways. If you love one rep max's ...GREAT! Do them all day long. But don't put down another method of others testing their functional strength because you like to do something different, okay bro?

 

[no1_brawler]

It's amazing how some people will take information with value to many and scrutinize it in every way possible in order to dissmiss it in order to comply with their own prejudices. What's up with that?

I maintain that a one rep max is not the end all be all indicator of strength, ESPECIALLY for a bodybuilder, since it won't do much in terms of building muscle. It's also responsible for many injuries.

Strength can be guadged in many ways. If you love one rep max's ...GREAT! Do them all day long. But don't put down another method of others testing their functional strength because you like to do something different, okay bro?

Well stop coming on here and making shit up and saying thats how you test functional strength. Ask yourself what is functional? Functionality is specific to what your training for. If your talking about testing your max strength on a specific exercise, the only way is testing your 1RM. And stop saying that you can get injuried doing your 1RM cause thats not true. People get injuried cause their forim is wrong not cause they're lifting heavy mate. An idiot can get injured benching 135lbs and a knowledgable guy can never get injured benching 400lbs.

 

[silver_shadow]

It's amazing how some people will take information with value to many and scrutinize it in every way possible in order to dissmiss it in order to comply with their own prejudices. What's up with that?

I maintain that a one rep max is not the end all be all indicator of strength, ESPECIALLY for a bodybuilder, since it won't do much in terms of building muscle. It's also responsible for many injuries.

Strength can be guadged in many ways. If you love one rep max's ...GREAT! Do them all day long. But don't put down another method of others testing their functional strength because you like to do something different, okay bro?

dude, i didn't say i think 1RMs are the best way to train and become bigger. actually i know it isn't.

what i'm getting at is that an advanced lifter (someone who is natural, atleast someone who is on a more conservative dose of AAS and who doesn't have freaky genetics) needs to alternate between lower reps (singles/doubles/triples) and higher reps (5 or more). he/she has to cycle his training. so to say that one is better than the other (whether you say it or i say it) would be basically untrue.

there are of course approaches different from this kind of cycling (WSB would be one good example) but essentially they incorporate both high and low reps. they are supposed to be complimentary!

 

[Nelson Montana]

dude, i didn't say i think 1RMs are the best way to train and become bigger. actually i know it isn't.

what i'm getting at is that an advanced lifter (someone who is natural, atleast someone who is on a more conservative dose of AAS and who doesn't have freaky genetics) needs to alternate between lower reps (singles/doubles/triples) and higher reps (5 or more). he/she has to cycle his training. so to say that one is better than the other (whether you say it or i say it) would be basically untrue.

there are of course approaches different from this kind of cycling (WSB would be one good example) but essentially they incorporate both high and low reps. they are supposed to be complimentary!

I agree with that.