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How come EF members here aren't as big or strong as Bill Goldberg?

I have every e-book on steroids on my computer - sure I have not cycled before because I don't want to fk my natural testosterone production and I'm doin quite well in the gym naturally (I smoke alot of guys on juice)

Heres a question I want to throw at you.

Steroids to me has always been about risk: reward ratio! you are potentially trading off a few years of your life expectancy to do what? impress a few guys in the gym? impress a few women who would probably move on to another guy anyway?

You should be taking steroids to help dominate major league baseball, to win an IFBB card, to win a gold medal in the olympics, to compete in WWE / TNA, to play NBA, to star in a hollywood movie like Stallone - all these have large financial payoffs which justify the potential health risks associated with chemical muscle enhancement.

Why guys would juice besides the above reasons with no financial incentive to do so is simply beyond me...

here is where you bring up a valid point. it will still piss many off but the point is still valid and can be kept respectful. to address this question. i fall into your catagory of good reasons. i cant speak for others. i personally dont think i would use them for amature comp, and i definately wouldnt use them for the opposite sex because my wife thinks it looks disgusting when im lean. but that doesnt mean that people who have different views are any different than me and i certainly respect everyone. you came in here talking down to us like you are superior and we are all a bunch of idiots. dont do that.
 
first off I haven't spoken down to anyone on here but theres a very good reason why I created this thread

needto - you only help americans.. thats why you refuse to ship to Australia which pisses me off...
and I have been a member on this forum since this fkin site launched so I'm not exactly a kid in this game.

Showing pics of chemically enhanced guys (possibly some even use synthol) and rubbing it in my face is not cool at all. I have been a hard working athlete for nearly 15 years and at no point
in my life have I ever let myself go to the point of obesity. I have competed nationally in Track and Field without resorting to anabolic steroids.. which is an achievement I am happy about.
I have lost count of how many times I have refused late night outs, drink alcohol with friends or smoke drugs for the sake of staying healthy and dedicated to being the absolute best I can be.

The reason I posted this thread is because I keep seeing the same old story in the forum - newbie comes for steroid advice - members recommend cycles (while ignoring their training history and diet habits)
I am not cool with that because its choosing the shortcut in life instead of putting in the hard yards for the results.

You know what? I don't need this negativity... steroids are meant to be for elite athletes (and for people who have a genuine medical illness) not for recreational users who only workout every now and then
just for the sake of pumping up and trying to impress the opposite gender - can't stand those morons..
 
Now, you're clearly drawing a distinction between someone who knows what EF is all about, and some powder puff who is jealous that real men can exercise free will to use exogenous androgens to enhance our bodies.

Let me enlighten you..

1. Nobody cares that you're natural, but you (so zip your lip)

2. Good job on your natty accomplishments, we have many of those ourselves.

3. Most of us work out upwards of 6 days a week, and are very serious about our diets.

4. Many of us live in America, (land of the free, home of the brave) where, young men sacrifice their lives so that we may enjoy our civilian life. That includes recreational use of hormones.

5. Your understanding of when it is, and is not appropriate for one to use steroids is skewed by your lack of understanding as to what steroids actually do. The notion that they are "meant" for only top level athletes and those with medical illness is indeed absurd.

5. You "smoke most guys on juice," eh? Wow, you're amazing. You'd be even more amazing on test, then.

You could have made your point respectfully bro.
 
first off I haven't spoken down to anyone on here but theres a very good reason why I created this thread

needto - you only help americans.. thats why you refuse to ship to Australia which pisses me off... are you sure thats the reason? what brings you to this asumption?
and I have been a member on this forum since this fkin site launched so I'm not exactly a kid in this game.

Showing pics of chemically enhanced guys (possibly some even use synthol) and rubbing it in my face is not cool at all. really because it was a response to your op saying we are all much smaller and weaker than some wrestelers. so it was just a little proof that your wrong. by the way i could out pose and out lift 80% of those pro wrestelers and i guarantee i use half the juice they do. I have been a hard working athlete for nearly 15 years and at no point
in my life have I ever let myself go to the point of obeciety. yea and... I have competed nationally in Track and Field without resorting to anabolic steroids.. which is an achievement I am happy about. great we can all be happy about that to. you act as if ef is anti natural athletes.
I have lost count of how many times I have refused late night outs, drink alcohol with friends or smoke drugs for the sake of staying healthy and dedicated to being the absolute best I can be. so none of us are devoted? take a look at my threads listing my daily life. look anf the pictures. you dont think that takes devotion?

The reason I posted this thread is because I keep seeing the same old story in the forum - newbie comes for steroid advice - members recommend cycles (while ignoring their training history and diet habits) really because i keep seing replies to peoples looking for steroid advice where people are trying to point out the importance of diet and proper training.
I am not cool with that because its choosing the shortcut in life instead of putting in the hard yards for the results. the reality is that in order for steroids to yeild any results you have to train harder and eat more and healthier than the natural athlete. research it you will see. im not going to write you a book on how steroids work.

You know what? I don't need this negativity great neither do we. dont let the door hit you in the ass... steroids are meant to be for elite athletes no their not(and for people who have a genuine medical illness this is all their meant for) not for recreational users who only workout every now and then ive never met any of them here. but didnt you claim to not work out to much in an earlier post in this thread?
just for the sake of pumping up and trying to impress the opposite gender - can't stand those morons.. i agree that that is a bad reason if thats the only reason but im not some god like being to look down my nose and call everyone who is not like me a moron.

^^^^
 
Dave Batista and Brock Lesnar beat everyone here - if you think otherwise then step in the ring with them. Or should I say why aren't they in the ring with them earning millions of dollars a year like John Cena?

Now I wrote this thread to stir bs yes.. fact is those guys still tower above most steroid users I've seen. I can't believe people are saying Hogan's physique is a joke rofl... how come they aren't in WWE or TNA then?

obviously I'm still on the fence about whether to juice or not - in my opinion if you juice and don't end up looking like John Cena then its not worth it (his arms are much more impressive than most guys who juice)

I don't mean to offend anyone with this post its just that I have been seeing mediocre results with drug use lately.

p.s. as for Brooke Hogan.. I barbell curl 120lbs without any drugs and not a lot of training so no a natural chick will not beat me.


Barbell curl 120 lbs huh? Is that supposed to mean something?

You know why I am not in the WWE, TNA, etc?

Because my acting skills don't suck that bad.

I could go send in a video to TNA at 6'2" and 245 lbs decently lean and they would probably take me. I have no desire to do that shit. That whole scene is a joke, pathetic and an embarrassment. No offense to people who enjoy watching it, but it is completely retarded that people are genuinely entertained by it.


I'd much rather train my ass off and step into the ring and get my face smashed in by real fighters rather than put on a gimmick costume, have a cliche' stagename, and round around calling other guys out who wear underwear on stage and tell them they are a pussy or their girl friend is a whore so that they will "wrestle" me.
 
first off I haven't spoken down to anyone on here but theres a very good reason why I created this thread

needto - you only help americans.. thats why you refuse to ship to Australia which pisses me off...
and I have been a member on this forum since this fkin site launched so I'm not exactly a kid in this game.

Showing pics of chemically enhanced guys (possibly some even use synthol) and rubbing it in my face is not cool at all. I have been a hard working athlete for nearly 15 years and at no point
in my life have I ever let myself go to the point of obesity. I have competed nationally in Track and Field without resorting to anabolic steroids.. which is an achievement I am happy about.
I have lost count of how many times I have refused late night outs, drink alcohol with friends or smoke drugs for the sake of staying healthy and dedicated to being the absolute best I can be.

The reason I posted this thread is because I keep seeing the same old story in the forum - newbie comes for steroid advice - members recommend cycles (while ignoring their training history and diet habits)
I am not cool with that because its choosing the shortcut in life instead of putting in the hard yards for the results.

You know what? I don't need this negativity... steroids are meant to be for elite athletes (and for people who have a genuine medical illness) not for recreational users who only workout every now and then
just for the sake of pumping up and trying to impress the opposite gender - can't stand those morons..


Contradicting yourself in the same thread.




I can't believe you had the audacity to start this thread, especially when yourself is a weak twig, even for a natty. Ouch, truth hurts.

Next time, take your Midol BEFORE you get on the internet, ya dropkick.
 
I love how the ef family sticks together.
Needto and co. Have a zero tolerance for disrespectful people.

I'm still a bit in shock a grown man is idolizing pro wrestlers but to each their own.
 
I love how the ef family sticks together.
Needto and co. Have a zero tolerance for disrespectful people.

I'm still a bit in shock a grown man is idolizing pro wrestlers but to each their own.

It's a brain malfuntction issue.

Also known as "drunken redneck hillbilly syndrome"




Season 13, Episode 10 explains and demonstrates what this syndrome is. Funny thing is how true it is:

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After reading this whole thread i've come to a conclusion.......I'm gonna take a shit ton of juice and join the WWF so i can get sum mad respect from my peers!!! LMFAOROG!!! Awesome post Needto, had a great time this weekend! Hope your feeling better Bro!!
 
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