Heath Ledger dead

[nefertiti]

If I knew more about pop culture I'd rattle off a bunch of young not-so-great actors who died that you don't remember. But alas, I don't.

However, I'm confident that Heath ledger WILL NOT be remembered in the same way that James Dean and MM are. That's for sure.

Agreed...but maybe like River Phoenix. People remember him and his untimely death, though with less reverence of the other two.

 

[heatherrae]

Agreed...but maybe like River Phoenix. People remember him and his untimely death, though with less reverence of the other two.

River Phoenix was a damn fine actor, actually. =-)

 

[nefertiti]

River Phoenix was a damn fine actor, actually. =-)

I didn't say he wasn't. But he isn't in that group with Monroe and Dean. Neither is Ledger, but he made enough of a splash with brokeback that I think he gets at least to River status of rememberence.

 

[KillahBee]

Agreed...but maybe like River Phoenix. People remember him and his untimely death, though with less reverence of the other two.

Perhaps. I guess people are suckers for drug OD's. I don't think I have ever seen Heath Ledger act and a quick look at his movies shows that a James Dean does not he make.

IMO, glorifying people when they are dead (or rather, overglorifying) is a disgraceful act. It's almost like saying "You weren't good enough as the person you truly were, so we're gonna go ahead and make you even better in our imaginations!!!".

(this is now me going off on a tangent.....) My first real brush with death was when I was in the 7th grade, I think. This 6th grader got hit by a car on his bike and died. He was a complete shit. Total terror. Everyone hated him. An evil little bastard. At the funeral and afterwards in class everyone was crying and memorializing the kid. I felt gross for being around it. Even at that young age I remember talking to one of my teachers and communicating my disgust for everyone's lies.

That's neither here nor there. RIP to Heath Ledger and best wishes to his family, for sure.

 

[H_T_]

Brad Renfro died last week. and Suzanna Pleshette, too....

 

[redguru]

Brad Renfro died last week. and Suzanna Pleshette, too....

Slim Whitman, too. Who I dare say, may be more of an icon than Heath Ledger. Slim has been parodied in movie after movie. Has a cult following, too.

 

[heatherrae]

I didn't say he wasn't. But he isn't in that group with Monroe and Dean. Neither is Ledger, but he made enough of a splash with brokeback that I think he gets at least to River status of rememberence.

Oh, I wasn't commenting that you were saying he wasn't. =-) I was just commenting about him.

I think that we everyone is blowing MM out though because of precisely what I'm talking about. She has that mystique of having died in her prime. If she had grown old and not so beautiful, as Elizabeth Taylor did, we wouldn't look at her the same way as we do.

 

[H_T_]

the thing about pop culture is that it moves too fast. and that includes giving undue accolades...the Rat Pack had several multi-talented stars that could pull off anything, and lived just as big off screen as on.....nowadays, some fat-ass neurotic drop out gets attention for shopping at a Target or being pulled over for DUI's....and what are they known for besides what their parents toil brought them? no wonder the middle east wants to eradicate us....

 

[rnch]

MM was just a centerfold model who made a few pretty bad movies.

do i detect more than a little bit of feminine jealousy in this claim?

 

[heatherrae]

do i detect more than a little bit of feminine jealousy in this claim?

Nope, I LOVE Marilyn. I'm just saying that she was not famous for acting talent. =-)