Have you ever had abs like this?

[Raptorex]

lol

keep lean, you can always gain weight as you get older, its much harder to stay lean than to become a fattty.

 

[Lestat]

keep lean, you can always gain weight as you get older, its much harder to stay lean than to become a fattty.

agreed

 

[Raptorex]

agreed

I workout with a bunch of guys that always want to be bigger, some have gone from 195 to 290... sacrificing body fat for strength.

I always argue, would you look more quickly at a lean chick or a fat chick...its that simple. Women look at us, just like we look at them.

 

[Lestat]

I workout with a bunch of guys that always want to be bigger, some have gone from 195 to 290... sacrificing body fat for strength.

I always argue, would you look more quickly at a lean chick or a fat chick...its that simple. Women look at us, just like we look at them.

definitely man. I get more looks lean then bulked up for sure. girls like abs and ripped guns.

 

[Raptorex]

definitely man. I get more looks lean then bulked up for sure. girls like abs and ripped guns.

did you basically stick a high protein/low carb approach?

 

[Lestat]

did you basically stick a high protein/low carb approach?

not low carbs, but no simple sugars. All complex carbs from whole grains and what not. Pretty high protein and high fat, I love avocados, almonds, peanut butter, etc.

I can eat up to about 2500 cals and still maintain a deficit. Its a nice luxury. When i go below 3000 I feel hungry all the time though.

 

[Raptorex]

not low carbs, but no simple sugars. All complex carbs from whole grains and what not. Pretty high protein and high fat, I love avocados, almonds, peanut butter, etc.

I can eat up to about 2500 cals and still maintain a deficit. Its a nice luxury. When i go below 3000 I feel hungry all the time though.

well, keep it up...I assume no fat-burners? I try to avoid them at all costs (e.g., caffeine, effedra).

 

[Lestat]

well, keep it up...I assume no fat-burners? I try to avoid them at all costs (e.g., caffeine, effedra).

I use caffeine a lot. Before every workout to give me a little boost.

When I am starting my spring cut, I use a lot of thermos. I was using all the AFstore stuff for a while. I think i can acheive the same results now on my own without it, but I believe it helped me before I knew exactly what to eat and what not to.

 

[Raptorex]

I use caffeine a lot. Before every workout to give me a little boost.

When I am starting my spring cut, I use a lot of thermos. I was using all the AFstore stuff for a while. I think i can acheive the same results now on my own without it, but I believe it helped me before I knew exactly what to eat and what not to.

I did the same with ripped fuel for a few years, then I started jumping up in the middle of the night, I got off all that stuff ASAP. I didnt' want to end up like Smurfy...

 

[Lestat]

I did the same with ripped fuel for a few years, then I started jumping up in the middle of the night, I got off all that stuff ASAP. I didnt' want to end up like Smurfy...

lmao!! smurfy is all good with the stims.

it did fuck up my sleep, I couldn't take it after 2 in the afternoon or I could forget about sleeping at night!