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Glad, plz read this: The honey do this NOW this.

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Say goodbye to doing things on your own time when you are good and ready to do them. If you think this list below is all a matter of course then you'll make a great husband. Many of these things my spouse won't do in a timely manner, if at all. I was actually working on this for therapy, but thought I'd share it too. It's a fast forward into reality:

The honey do this before you start to fight list:

1) Don't just mow the weeds, get rid of them!
2) Will you at least take care of the weeds if *I* buy the weed killer?
3) Fine, I'll take care of the weeds. Will you at least buy some stones for the land scaping?
4) Can you wash the car more than once a month?
5) Fine, I'll wash the car, but will you at least vacuum?
6) Fine, I'll wash and vacuum the car, will you at least organize your stuff in the garage?
7) Oh forget it....I'm tired. Are you tired of hearing this too? It's what happens in households all across north america... Real life dude, REAL life.

A great quote I heard from a gay guy soap opera: "Honey, if we love each other, we'll be considerate of each other."

Take pride in your house and home and take care of crap dude. Help each other out. Forget traditional roles and just do it to be considerate. For a woman, her love language is she wants you to say nice things, be affectionate, take care of the home with pride, and don't be a lazy ass. For a guy, you may see buying her stuff as the way to show you love her. Be in tuned to how SHE wants you to show love to her and she should in turn know what you need as gestures of love like giving you head when you want it. Love language- sooo important. I'm trying to accept my spouses and his and mine are soooo incompatible, but I have to accept it even if it's not what I prefer and hopefully he will try better to meet me halfway and show me what I want like taking me on a date more than 3 times a year and NOT skipping special occassions out b/c of the kids.

Again, good luck.

So, everyone, is my husband typical or a real "gem"?
 
Fail for punking out your husband in front of the world where he isnt here to rebutt.
Also fail for thinking Glad is going to give two shits about this also.
 
how did this start as aGlad post and wind up being about you? :confused: might as well name the thread mememememe
 
underwraps, i have some advice for YOU.

stop giving any one advice until your own life and marriage are on track. right now, it's so far off it you really don't come from a place of knowledge at ALL and it pollutes most of what you say.
 
this chick is like a small yellow school bus version of Bikene' Mom

kind of what I was thinking.

Very B'mom-esque post.
 
You cheated?

Well, at this point, you should probably consider the possibility that your husband is only there for the kids and really doesn't give a flying fuck about your little lists or how you feel about his ignoring the items on them.
 
at least BM had lots of crap (abusive first ex, losing kids) she had a bit more of excuse for her behaviour...
 
Sorry, but I fucking hate people like you. You're one of these people that probably asks somebody to do something, but then they don't do it exactly the way YOU want it done, so you bitch about it. "Honey, will you put the dishes in the dishwasher for me?"

*an hour later*

"Goddamnit WTF you're supposed to arrange them like THIS!! You dumb FUCK!!!"

It's bullshit. He probably doesn't want to do shit because you're an anal killjoy who has sucked the fun out of marriage for him, and thus he doesn't give a fuck what you think or want anymore.
 
btw, is your husband a gem?
yes, he is. how do i know? he's still with you, right?

Do you think he is cheating? i haven't seen you mention any worry of that. so assuming he goes to work, helps you take care of the kids, stays home instead of running off with his friends (i saw you say you were proudly doing that...), and although i see you complaining about him, I haven't seen you say that he complains about you.

so if his crimes are that he doesn't do everything on his "honey do list" right, and doesn't take you out alone enough, then yeah- you DO have a gem.
 
aww everyone jumping down underwrap's throat.

I wont though, I haven't got a clue what your story is so i wont judge.

It does seem as if you masked the advice you were trying to give Glad and turned it into an opportunity to attack your husband. It seems as if you have some major issues in your marriage, and you seem unhappy and frustrated. Anyways best of luck in getting things sorted.:)
 
lol@ any marriage being perfect

Sounds like your husband is a lazy bum. Not sure why everyone is tweaking on you.
 
lol@ any marriage being perfect

Sounds like your husband is a lazy bum. Not sure why everyone is tweaking on you.

THANK YOU! Geez, actually I'm not surprised at half the replies.

BTW, THIS IS MY LAST POST ON ANYTHING OF A SERIOUS NATURE WHEN IT COMES TO RELATIONSHIPS IN THIS FORUM- Yes, go ahead and applaud, thank you.
Not my last post, just nothing serious.

You'd think we could have an honest adult conversation on very real and serious issues. When will I ever learn???? I will take my deep thoughts to a more appropriate forum from here on. I have said what I said with sarcasm and I guess it comes off as something else.

All I wanted to do was give insight on how very typical domestic arguments start- Young marrieds can't conceive of how it happens, but it happens and it IS typical. I can only speak from my experience. A fail for not letting my husband defend himself- okay, I get that, but I can't speak about my experience if he's the other half of a MARRIAGE- and that was the original TOPIC.

My theory is that everyone who jumped on me is this:
1) Just the kind of guy who would be lazy too and got brow beaten by a woman for it. Or, can't conceive of a guy being that lazy so assumes it MUST be me. My mother in law would LOVE for me to be that anal retentive. His laziness is really a rebellion against HER for being so anal all those years- my theory.

2) Is a woman who doesn't know the whole story or has a bigger heart than I do and thinks a good husband is a "good husband" if he doesn't beat her, go out drinking every weekend, or cheats. (He likely did the last based on STD evidence and now we're more than even. And, he likely got me pregnant to cover his guilt as THAT was the pregnancy that discovered the STD. The 1st test was inconclusive (too soon to show "bloom") and the 2nd was positive.)

I waited till I had 101 reasons to cheat. Cheating men only need 1. - the nagging about dishes not being perfectly alligned- good one! -, not giving head, etc... I heard it all.

You guys have it SOOOO good. Our traditional mothers have trained us to expect so little of you straight men. On that note: Thumbs way up to you guys who do take care of stuff at home and that it is a matter of course for you! You deserve respect.

Many of you have elephant memories and remember a lot of my story, but only bits were told here and there. There are many wrong assumptions about me and my marriage and I even if Glad won't take my advice, at least he can see where conversations CAN lead so thank you for participating anyway- seriously or just in jabs.

The thing is I can't defend myself w/o telling even MORE about me and my experience and again making it about MEMEMEMEME AGAIN. So I won't go further about me.

I know it would seem to make sense to not give advice having problems myself, but that's like telling a drug addict who is STILL in recovery to not say anything and not give advice about how not to get started in that lifestyle. It's the declining hill I was giving insight on, NOT how to have a happy marriage or how to NOT want drugs, although I did share on how I am TRYING improve ours based on advice I've been given.

Cut some slack people. Just trying to have an adult conversation. -FAIL for thinking THAT!
Yes, I am frustrated about my husband. We are like FWBs rooming and raising kids together. Oh, that's another assumption- about him not wanting it from me. Uh, at least twice a week. Is that typical? Do I have a "gem"? Yes he gets kudos for that. He isn't a bad guy. Him just not being the worst does not put him in the league of the best, or even the average.

Glad, if you read this or not, just know that it all starts with disrespecting each other. I would not have done what I did if I still had respect for him. Most women CAN'T and WON'T cheat unless that's lost. Men can still "love" their wives and cheat.

There, it's over. Now nearly perfect people....rag on. I don't mind being called out for my past. NO defense there. And NO, I will never do that again. As time goes further away, I have less and less desire for meaningless NSA sex. Men I think have to fight that urge all their lives. I feel for them. I understood what thinking like a purely sexual creature was like for a spell. Still, it does not excuse THEM- no matter if she nags or "won't keep up". See how little of an excuse a guy needs to disrespect his wife? Pffft.
 
this is eerie.

(underwraps, your last post is SO much like a former poster that I have to keep reminding myself that you are definitely NOT her. so similar it's creepy.)
 
this is eerie.

(underwraps, your last post is SO much like a former poster that I have to keep reminding myself that you are definitely NOT her. so similar it's creepy.)
 
underwraps, what in God's name are you talking about? (speak english).

you made a commitment to yourself and your husband by marrying him.
nothing makes it right to cheat on him. it just makes you look pathetic.
 
just skimmed your last post. Im pretty ADD, i can only do so many sentences at once.lol :D

anyways, if you both cheated, tried to patch things up and its didn't work....at least it doesn't sound like your happy now; why don't you leave? got kids? so what.
 
yeah I didn't see that he cheated anywhere so those "101" things probably amounted to homie not taking out the garbage...shit like that. No I agree, that's totally good reason to hop on some strange.


This sounds like my ex so fucking much....lol. What a pain in the ass.
 
In her post she says he did cheat too, even gave her an STD while knocked up, him cheating doesnt give her a free pass or in her case a season pass ;)
 
In her post she says he did cheat too, even gave her an STD while knocked up, him cheating doesnt give her a free pass or in her case a season pass ;)



well now that's a different story....can't say I caught that one. WTF would you being doing with someone who gave you an STD while you were pregnant?
 
well now that's a different story....can't say I caught that one. WTF would you being doing with someone who gave you an STD while you were pregnant?
exactly! and if u decide to forgive and forget u really have to do so otherwise it creates more problems, and again him doing it first isnt a free pass...
 
underwraps your husband sounds like a real piece of work

cheating with an EFer is the only fair way to get back at him
 
I dont understand people who stay after their spouses cheat - even w/ kids I think its a better example to divorce the cheating POS than to stay and put up w/ that kind of betrayal
 
unless of course, you consider a guy kissing ME while I was dancing w/ him at a bachelorette night out and I told my husband right away :rolleyes: I'm talking about peen in vageen - betrayal.
 
i got bizzy the last three nights in a row with the same woman that i've been getting bizzy with for the last 20 years...and it was AWESOME...especially last night...that is all...carry on :)
 
i got bizzy the last three nights in a row with the same woman that i've been getting bizzy with for the last 20 years...and it was AWESOME...especially last night...that is all...carry on :)

pics or it never happened
 
kind of what I was thinking.

Very B'mom-esque post.


hmmmm.... i am curious why someone would mention BMOM when she isnt even on this sight anymore? i am not asking this to provoke, my intellegence level is too grand for that. I mearly want to say that I have become close friends with her and know her "in person" and she is one of the smartest, most loyal and honest people I have ever met. I am not biased in my thinking either, I am sincere and factual. It pains me that she is brought up this way as you dont know the intense pain she has suffered and is suffering on a daily basis. She is my friend and I love her.

Please, for the sake of human sensitivety, think long and hard before you desecrate someones soul like this in a public forum. Words ARE mightier than the sword; Atleast with the sword you wont see the wake of suffering that occures in the onslought.

Peace to all and be kind to our fellow human.
 
hmmmm.... i am curious why someone would mention BMOM when she isnt even on this sight anymore? i am not asking this to provoke, my intellegence level is too grand for that. I mearly want to say that I have become close friends with her and know her "in person" and she is one of the smartest, most loyal and honest people I have ever met. I am not biased in my thinking either, I am sincere and factual. It pains me that she is brought up this way as you dont know the intense pain she has suffered and is suffering on a daily basis. She is my friend and I love her.

Please, for the sake of human sensitivety, think long and hard before you desecrate someones soul like this in a public forum. Words ARE mightier than the sword; Atleast with the sword you wont see the wake of suffering that occures in the onslought.

Peace to all and be kind to our fellow human.

jesus christ, what the fuck is this lol
 
hmmmm.... i am curious why someone would mention BMOM when she isnt even on this sight anymore? i am not asking this to provoke, my intellegence level is too grand for that. I mearly want to say that I have become close friends with her and know her "in person" and she is one of the smartest, most loyal and honest people I have ever met. I am not biased in my thinking either, I am sincere and factual. It pains me that she is brought up this way as you dont know the intense pain she has suffered and is suffering on a daily basis. She is my friend and I love her.

Please, for the sake of human sensitivety, think long and hard before you desecrate someones soul like this in a public forum. Words ARE mightier than the sword; Atleast with the sword you wont see the wake of suffering that occures in the onslought.

Peace to all and be kind to our fellow human.

nobody has said anything bad about her. The style of writing is very similar- a fact that I bet bmom herself would agree on.
It's no secret that she wrote long replies- in fact, bmom and I recently talked about that quality of her writing and how it effects her in a positive way now.

and btw, bmom was a member here for a long time, and then a moderator, so it's no surprised that she would be remembered after she's gone.
 
hmmmm.... i am curious why someone would mention BMOM when she isnt even on this sight anymore? i am not asking this to provoke, my intellegence level is too grand for that. I mearly want to say that I have become close friends with her and know her "in person" and she is one of the smartest, most loyal and honest people I have ever met. I am not biased in my thinking either, I am sincere and factual. It pains me that she is brought up this way as you dont know the intense pain she has suffered and is suffering on a daily basis. She is my friend and I love her.

Please, for the sake of human sensitivety, think long and hard before you desecrate someones soul like this in a public forum. Words ARE mightier than the sword; Atleast with the sword you wont see the wake of suffering that occures in the onslought.

Peace to all and be kind to our fellow human.

did she help you find a sugar daddy?
 
hmmmm.... i am curious why someone would mention BMOM when she isnt even on this sight anymore? i am not asking this to provoke, my intellegence level is too grand for that. I mearly want to say that I have become close friends with her and know her "in person" and she is one of the smartest, most loyal and honest people I have ever met. I am not biased in my thinking either, I am sincere and factual. It pains me that she is brought up this way as you dont know the intense pain she has suffered and is suffering on a daily basis. She is my friend and I love her.

Please, for the sake of human sensitivety, think long and hard before you desecrate someones soul like this in a public forum. Words ARE mightier than the sword; Atleast with the sword you wont see the wake of suffering that occures in the onslought.

Peace to all and be kind to our fellow human.

holy effin arrogance. your spelling needs help too.
 
hmmmm.... i am curious why someone would mention BMOM when she isnt even on this sight anymore? i am not asking this to provoke, my intellegence level is too grand for that. I mearly want to say that I have become close friends with her and know her "in person" and she is one of the smartest, most loyal and honest people I have ever met. I am not biased in my thinking either, I am sincere and factual. It pains me that she is brought up this way as you dont know the intense pain she has suffered and is suffering on a daily basis. She is my friend and I love her.

Please, for the sake of human sensitivety, think long and hard before you desecrate someones soul like this in a public forum. Words ARE mightier than the sword; Atleast with the sword you wont see the wake of suffering that occures in the onslought.

Peace to all and be kind to our fellow human.

*merely
*sensitivity
*onslaught

[Lecter]fly little starling, fly, fly, fly......[/Lecter]
 
unless of course, you consider a guy kissing ME while I was dancing w/ him at a bachelorette night out and I told my husband right away :rolleyes: I'm talking about peen in vageen - betrayal.



now we know that cindy only considers cheating when peen breaks the surface of the vageen. But it's not cheating if what you're doing has "job" on the end of it. :lmao:
















i teeze i teeze lol
 
hmmmm.... i am curious why someone would mention BMOM when she isnt even on this sight anymore? i am not asking this to provoke, my intellegence level is too grand for that. I mearly want to say that I have become close friends with her and know her "in person" and she is one of the smartest, most loyal and honest people I have ever met. I am not biased in my thinking either, I am sincere and factual. It pains me that she is brought up this way as you dont know the intense pain she has suffered and is suffering on a daily basis. She is my friend and I love her.

Please, for the sake of human sensitivety, think long and hard before you desecrate someones soul like this in a public forum. Words ARE mightier than the sword; Atleast with the sword you wont see the wake of suffering that occures in the onslought.

Peace to all and be kind to our fellow human.

holy effin christ!!

this member should be banned permanently on principal alone
 
hmmmm.... i am curious why someone would mention BMOM when she isnt even on this sight anymore? i am not asking this to provoke, my intellegence level is too grand for that. I mearly want to say that I have become close friends with her and know her "in person" and she is one of the smartest, most loyal and honest people I have ever met. I am not biased in my thinking either, I am sincere and factual. It pains me that she is brought up this way as you dont know the intense pain she has suffered and is suffering on a daily basis. She is my friend and I love her.

Please, for the sake of human sensitivety, think long and hard before you desecrate someones soul like this in a public forum. Words ARE mightier than the sword; Atleast with the sword you wont see the wake of suffering that occures in the onslought.

Peace to all and be kind to our fellow human.

Hi Darling!! :heart:

miss seeing you around here!! U should come around more often and update your journal here as well.

BM was always pretty awesome to me and i really appreciated that, especially when i first joined here, I liked her alot:). But she seems to have left a different impression with others and different things they associate with her. There's good, and there's bad it seems. But you cant help that, and you needn't make their word carry much weight as to cause any hurt....There are those of us that appreciated her help immensely.
 
now we know that cindy only considers cheating when peen breaks the surface of the vageen. But it's not cheating if what you're doing has "job" on the end of it. :lmao


i teeze i teeze lol

Im gonna go ahead and pre-empt plunky here with an employment joke.

So youve done nothing but cheat right bor

Lulz
 
Regarding BMOM, the segment her and grump did on Tyra destroyed any respect that anyone should have for them, their children, their children's children, and anybody they have ever associated with in person throughout the course of their entire lives.

It was literally that bad.
 
Hi Darling!! :heart:

miss seeing you around here!! U should come around more often and update your journal here as well.

BM was always pretty awesome to me and i really appreciated that, especially when i first joined here, I liked her alot:). But she seems to have left a different impression with others and different things they associate with her. There's good, and there's bad it seems. But you cant help that, and you needn't make their word carry much weight as to cause any hurt....There are those of us that appreciated her help immensely.

this is NOT the correct forum to be nice to people on
 
Regarding BMOM, the segment her and grump did on Tyra destroyed any respect that anyone should have for them, their children, their children's children, and anybody they have ever associated with in person throughout the course of their entire lives.

It was literally that bad.

wtfbbq?
they did a sugardaddy segment on tyra?
 
omg... the horribleness of this is beyond comprehension... i never thought much of BM or grump anyhow.... but this takes the cake.... absolutely sickening
 
they went and did it on another show unfortunately... to each their own, I like BM but I wouldnt go out defending her in public much either...
 
anyone actually talk to BM and grump lately? they alright? why did they leave?

i talk to her once in a while (on line). the last time was maybe... 3 months ago. She's doing relatively well.

I understood what they were saying in the video on tyra, but it sounds terrible when put the way it was. The truth is that they are very much in love in real life, and actually have a lot in common, but you'd never know it by thinking that his bank account brought them together.

bmom looks great btw.
 
unless of course, you consider a guy kissing ME while I was dancing w/ him at a bachelorette night out and I told my husband right away :rolleyes: I'm talking about peen in vageen - betrayal.

I miss Bill Clinton.

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:D
 
i talk to her once in a while (on line). the last time was maybe... 3 months ago. She's doing relatively well.

I understood what they were saying in the video on tyra, but it sounds terrible when put the way it was. The truth is that they are very much in love in real life, and actually have a lot in common, but you'd never know it by thinking that his bank account brought them together.

bmom looks great btw.

This ^ those videos on TV shows always play what will get their ratings up, y'all who were here when they were here know they cared for eachother and stuck up for each other, how they met shouldnt make a mark on how they are now, how many people have found their significant others while either of them was still in another relationship, or as rebounds, or in non conventional places, how you meet means something, but it does not define you as a person or your relationship... for me at least...

You know it's love when she braids his beard and puts bows on it :D
 
hmmmm.... i am curious why someone would mention BMOM when she isnt even on this sight anymore? i am not asking this to provoke, my intellegence level is too grand for that. I mearly want to say that I have become close friends with her and know her "in person" and she is one of the smartest, most loyal and honest people I have ever met. I am not biased in my thinking either, I am sincere and factual. It pains me that she is brought up this way as you dont know the intense pain she has suffered and is suffering on a daily basis. She is my friend and I love her.

Please, for the sake of human sensitivety, think long and hard before you desecrate someones soul like this in a public forum. Words ARE mightier than the sword; Atleast with the sword you wont see the wake of suffering that occures in the onslought.

Peace to all and be kind to our fellow human.

Whoa! Slow down Turbo!!

You'd better read that shit again. Tell me where I desecrated anyone's soul there, Sally Sensitive.

I've read her posts on here for the last ten years, so yeah, I have a pretty good idea of pretty much her whole life, as she was a very open book.

My comment was to the style of the post, not the person. She wasn't "brought up" in any negative way at all. The post was long, and similar in style to her writing. That is all.

Clearly, you don't have a fucking clue though or you wouldn't have made that defensive post. Either you're an emotional basket case, or you're just looking for a reason to start an argument. Either way, this is where it ends.

Have a nice day! :)
 
This ^ those videos on TV shows always play what will get their ratings up, y'all who were here when they were here know they cared for eachother and stuck up for each other, how they met shouldnt make a mark on how they are now, how many people have found their significant others while either of them was still in another relationship, or as rebounds, or in non conventional places, how you meet means something, but it does not define you as a person or your relationship... for me at least...

You know it's love when she braids his beard and puts bows on it :D

true.
i'm going to lock this. bmom isn't here, and her and GOM are very happy together. whatever the real circumstances of their marriage were... it worked for them.
 
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