GH Cycle Help

[4percent]

This is my first forum post so I appreciate all of your help.

8% BF
3200 -3400 Calorie intake
40 40 20

Height: 5 10
Weight: 185
Age:24
Training 6 years, also was a college athlete.

History: 2 winny, 1 eq and no pct. I was dumb and young. I am much better now. this was several years ago

Question:
I have been on Gh for that past month and really love this stuff. Much stonger and I also gained a good amount of size, im guessing from my diet. Originally I was running it with Var but decided to stop because I am very scared of my hair line. That being said I am looking to stack gh with something. My mothers father died with a full head of hair, and because of my winny runs I Im afraid of a bad hairline (which is already back an inch on both sides) so I didnt want to run a test. Another thing is I got Gyno from no PCT long ago, but it is very mild.

The Gh I took actually made me start to feel my gyno come back a little bit. So I wanted to hear thoughts on what to use.

I have GH to last me about 6 months
I have Nolva and Letzo and Propecia


The question is, what can I add with the GH that wont hurt my hairline, and how should I take the Nolva and Letzo and Propecia to get rid of my existing gyno and not lose my hair if I run a test.

I know it sounds like I am a noob, but I am not. My diet is on point, as well as my training. I do my research but felt it was much better to get my questions out into the open so I can get some real world advice. I do appreciate all of your help and any positive and constructive thoughts and comments.

My goal is to be 195+ at 4-6%

 

[Piper25]

Test and GH is very synergestic together.....2 i.u's a day should be plenty first thing in the morning and I dont reccomend hitting the 4-6 iu's a day cause most of my buddies get bloated and start to hold water. If you had slight Gyno I would add arimidex with the test since you are prone.

I have seen my buddy get wicked results with Eq, winny and GH. Not sure what your budget is either. I am assuming you want to avoid stuff that's high in DHT so Primo, winny or anything highly ananbolic for that reason.

Tren might something you could add aswell since you have done test free cycles. Tren is awesome and would compliment the gh aswell.

 

[4percent]

What about absolutely making sure my hair is fine? Budget is not an issue, but I dont have armidex right now I have nolva and letzo. Should I instead use adex? Remember I have mild gyno already so I would love to get rid of it while I am on.

 

[goin on 4T]

Gh can cause gyno too! Ever look into adding IGF which is also very synergisctic with GH?
Why don't you switch up your GH to 3 x week 10IU's post work out IM? You will see much betting LBM gains than the way you are currently running GH.

 

[tiggerizme]

adding IGF which is also very synergisctic with GH?

Agreed. Synergistic very much, throw in some T4 and you've got one helluva peptide cycle.

Why don't you switch up your GH to 3 x week 10IU's post work out IM? You will see much betting LBM gains than the way you are currently running GH.

Where the hell did that come from? 10iu's?? And PWO?? He'd be better off with the 3-4 iu's ED splitting a.m. and p.m. 5 on 2 off. Not trying to be a jerk here but I wouldn't mind hearing the argument behind 10iu's PWO (probably in the evening) which would severely suppress natural GH production at night. I guess if he used GHRP-6 it could help but why so much and PWO?

Again, please state the reasoning behind this because I haven't heard of it.

My suggestion would be a small dose of GH, as stated 3-4iu's split, then say 20-60mcg IGF-LR3 split bilaterally into the muscle worked out (i.e. if you train arms in the evening inject 20mg in left bicep and 20mcg in right) PWO along with your evening GH. I prefer not to take my evening GH after 4:00pm, but to each his own. Maybe this helped, maybe not.

 

[4percent]

I would love to do IGF but I hear from multiple sources that its very dangerous. Im sure its not if it is done right, but my source just thinks I should run a test first? Any thoughts? Personally I would like to do igf this way i keep the mass and nothing affects my hair.

 

[tiggerizme]

While I'm certainly not experienced enough to explain the scientific reasoning behind HOW IGF directly affects the GH I can truthfully tell you there are plenty of articles supporting this.

IGF in whole is not complicated to administer. You simply inject (with insulin syringe obviously) directly into the muscle group you train that day. 20mcg per side for instance. The only side effect you'll see really are headaches if you are taking too much. Or I guess it's possible hitting a nerve in administering site injections.

Oh yeah, and it is definitely painful, that shit feels like a goddamn bee sting. Just for a few minutes though. I used to get the complete kits from a reputable website back in the day that you had to reconstitute yourself. Man that stuff was painful. BUT, on a better note, I gained probably 1/2" on my arms in 4 weeks. Truly amazing and well worth it in my opinion.

 

[goin on 4T]

No offense taken; I continue to do and have done alot of research on different ways to take GH. I think that depending on your goals you should do one method or the other. If you want LBM gains than the 3 x week is the way to go. If you are taking it for anti-aging and or fat loss than 4IU's per day (2IU's in the AM and 2IU's PWO or late afternoon). No one has ever produced and documentation showing the suppresion of GH production based on time or amount taken. If you have something that does I sure would like to educate myself more!

 

[tiggerizme]

No offense taken; I continue to do and have done alot of research on different ways to take GH. I think that depending on your goals you should do one method or the other. If you want LBM gains than the 3 x week is the way to go. If you are taking it for anti-aging and or fat loss than 4IU's per day (2IU's in the AM and 2IU's PWO or late afternoon). No one has ever produced and documentation showing the suppresion of GH production based on time or amount taken. If you have something that does I sure would like to educate myself more!

Growth Hormone is usually secreted in rhythmic pulses while you are sleeping, as two peptides, HGHRH and Somatostatin (SST). HGHRH (Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone) is the one responsible for the Release of Growth Hormone. The same as injecting exogenous Test it suppresses the natural production. Same here: Refer to Human Anatomy and Physiology, 6th Edition, John W. Hole jr.

 

[4percent]

Test, or IGF? also do I run IGF alone, or with GH? Thoughts comments welcome. Please look at my goals.