FUCK, I did it again!!!!

[babbabuee]

I jacked up my back missing a double on my dirtbike a the end of June and I was just getting back to about 95%, or so I thought. Then today, doing leg presses, I reinjured my lower back. Went to the doc and he said it's some sort of ligament damage. Not much I can do but wait it out and try to stretch it when possible. I'll get back into the gym in a couple of days and stay away from that leg press machine and slowly work my way up with dead lifts and squats. This is so fuckin depressing though. I was ready to run my second cycle this monday and now I'm going to have to wait 2-3 weeks. Sorry for the post, just venting,
ARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

 

[40butpumpin]

bro use wet heat after a few days and after the heat, lay on your back and slowly pull your knee to your chest, this will gently stretch the area when you're ready. also, apply some DMSO to the area around where it's injured, it can really help ligament and tendon problems. also, look into a good prolotherapist. just take it slow and you'll be back man, hang in there it will get better.

 

[BlackbeardTheAssPirate]

Aarrgghh indeed matey!

Blackbeard'll be happy to work out some o' those kinks in ye back......werkin' on me ship has taught me a good round o' ass poundin' action be the best thing fer it! With Blackbeard a rammin' and a slammin' on that ass o' yers, you'll be fegettin' all about yer back pain!

Aarrgghh!

 

[40butpumpin]

Aarrgghh indeed matey!

Blackbeard'll be happy to work out some o' those kinks in ye back......werkin' on me ship has taught me a good round o' ass poundin' action be the best thing fer it! With Blackbeard a rammin' and a slammin' on that ass o' yers, you'll be fegettin' all about yer back pain!

Aarrgghh!

this is rediculous, someone should toss the clown.

here's some negative karma for ya chump.

 

[BlackbeardTheAssPirate]

YARR....

Blackbeard not be knowin' what rediculous mean, but he was just tryin' ta help one o' me fellow scurvy pirates.

Walk tha plank ye scurvy animal!

 

[babbabuee]

WTF blackbeard!!! You made me sorry for even posting now, you sicko. I'm guessin you're the only one that thinks that shit's funny.

thanks for the suggestions 40... oh shit, I just read your handle 40butpumpin!! I guess on its own that wouldn't sound gay, but right above blackbeardtheassPirate.... ( don't worry, I do get your handle, 40 but still pumping iron), just making an observation.

I don't even want to see where this post is going. Can someone tell me how to delete this post all together?

 

[satchboogie]

this fucker is banned very shortly.

 

[babbabuee]

thanks satch.

 

[40butpumpin]

WTF blackbeard!!! You made me sorry for even posting now, you sicko. I'm guessin you're the only one that thinks that shit's funny.

thanks for the suggestions 40... oh shit, I just read your handle 40butpumpin!! I guess on its own that wouldn't sound gay, but right above blackbeardtheassPirate.... ( don't worry, I do get your handle, 40 but still pumping iron), just making an observation.

I don't even want to see where this post is going. Can someone tell me how to delete this post all together?

yeah it never occured to me but i spelled it right.

 

[RADAR]

I'll handle this! Back soon!


RADAR

 

[liftsiron]

Back to the original post. babbabuee I would think that squats and deadlifts are the last two exercises that you would want to do while your back is injured. Take er cool my man.

 

[satchboogie]

very true.

stick with light weight leg presses.
make sure your abs are tight as that'll take pressure off your lower back.

 

[RADAR]

Back to the original post. babbabuee I would think that squats and deadlifts are the last two exercises that you would want to do while your back is injured. Take er cool my man.

Liftsiron i sent him a pm saying the same thing!
RADAR

 

[Dr. M]

Bab -

man, tough luck on the back... gotta be patient and get yourself back in form so you can start your cycle! Little lay-off now means BIG gains sooner, right? I know it's tough, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.

Blackbeard - you're a fruitcup. Goodbye.
-M

 

[liftsiron]

-Hey Dr. M:
Good sig bro

 

[BodybuildingUniverse]

wait the few weeks and heal up man. plenty of time to get big - HEALTHY.

 

[babbabuee]

funny thing is I was doing 20 rep squats with about 170lbs and it wasn't really bothering my back at all, neither was the dead lifts at about 275lbs. But when I was doing those leg presses, I found that my ass would come off the seat just a bit at the bottom of the press and that's when I felt the surge of pain. I'm feeling better today, but definitely not good enough to get back in the gym. I'm going to hit shoulders tomorrow and then next week just slowly get back into it, slowly, I have to keep saying that SLOWLY.
thanks for all the support guys.

 

[DeepZenPill]

I tore ligaments in my back from a surfing accident... during a hurricane, but it does take quite a bit of time to recuperate. 40butpumpin gave some good advice with the knee stretch. The doc in the hospital told me the same thing.

Don't do deads or squats or anything taxing to your back. Even though it might feel strong, it takes very little to hurt it again if it's not fully healed. I couldn't even run for a month, walking was bad enough.

You should ask your doc how long he thinks you should take off for back work. Nobody here really knows the extent of the injury as well as the doctor probably would.

 

[Dr. M]

-Hey Dr. M:
Good sig bro

Thanks man... and thanks for the quote! I laughed SO hard when you pulled that in the 'yellow sperm' thread... hahahahahha!

Bab -

if you're having troubles on the leg press, wait until your back heals and do what some of my buddies used to do when we were playing ball at college...

Find a piece of orthopedic foam, or bring something that can fit into the small of your back and put it there while you lift. Your shoulder blades and your hips will still remain on the press when you're doing the lift, but it will take a lot of strain off your back since it will be in a naturally arched position (your body should be curved away from the back of the seat). BUT START LIGHT WHEN YOU DO THIS THE FIRST TIME! It's a little bit different feeling if you do it right, and it takes time getting used to... no need to put 900 lbs. on the sled and waste your back again, then write off the method because you didn't really feel the ins and outs of having a supported back when on LP.

Maybe something to try... ?

Good luck!
-M

 

[babbabuee]

Doc,
I think I'm off that leg press for a quite a while, because it seems to be the one thing that does stress my lower back, even more than deads or squats.

DeepZen,
I agree with you, even though it felt strong, it was quite easy to reinjure. Now I know that and even if I do feel strong, I'm going to stay light for a while before I stack on any weight.

you guys are the best... I was so down yesterday and today, after this outpouring of support from you guys I feel better mentally. Oh and these vicodin and flexeril's aren't hurting my mood any, that's for sure

 

[Badbart]

Doc,
I think I'm off that leg press for a quite a while, because it seems to be the one thing that does stress my lower back, even more than deads or squats.

DeepZen,
I agree with you, even though it felt strong, it was quite easy to reinjure. Now I know that and even if I do feel strong, I'm going to stay light for a while before I stack on any weight.

you guys are the best... I was so down yesterday and today, after this outpouring of support from you guys I feel better mentally. Oh and these vicodin and flexeril's aren't hurting my mood any, that's for sure

Legg press kills my lower back. Legg Press seems to put a lot of stress on my lowers back, more then squats or deads.

 

[Dr. M]

Same here... it's strange, and kinda counter-intuitive, but that's the way she goes I guess.

I want details once you start your cycle, Bab!
-M

 

[babbabuee]

badbart, nice to hear I wasn't the only one with that problem on the leg press. I can remember before I injured my back that I would still feel a strain in my lower back. I think part of it is when i go heavier than I should. I know this is a no no and definitely a rookie mistake on my part(although I don't consider myself a rookie). That's pretty much why I'm so mad at mysefl for throwing so much weight up there.

oh and Doc, you'll definitely get ALL the details when i start my cycle. I'm going to post a thread when I start and bascially add to it everyday or so. That way people can see the progression.

 

[Dr. M]

Nice man, very nice... that one's going in the subscription list
-M

 

[Bam Bam]

Good luck recovering from your broken back. I hurt mine in football years ago and it still bothers me today. It's hard for me to squat with big time weight anymore. Maybe you will have better luck. Bam

 

[roidpuple]

why not try the chiropractor???

 

[GawdsGift]

i feel your pain, i was in my second week of a sust EQ dbal cycle when i strained the igiments in ml ankle. i havent been abel to walk and its been a week. i am on crutches and doing what i can in the gym, lol. nothing i can carry all machine weight and not heavy at all since i can not put pressure on ym foot. i am replenishing ym stock and am praying i can start again on monday.. 1 week from today. SAD SAD SAD.. i guess thhe thing to do when on gear or about to get on gear is stear clear of all the unneeded risks. i'd much rather be bulking up and looking good rather than sitting here on this chair with a fat ankle all for a few minutes of basketball. lmao.

any way. keep ya chin up i guess. it wont be long now.

 

[babbabuee]

well, it's been weeks since I posted on this thread. I'm about 2 weeks into my primo/dbol cycle and so far so good. the dbol just fucks with me in ways it's hard to describe. I get nagging pains in my shoulders and it just keeps me from lifting 100%. I've been on 20-30mg of dbol for about 2 weeks now and have decided to stop the dbol all together and stick with the primo 200mg e3d. I'm going to post an update next week. So far so good though. the lower back is holding up ok. I've been staying off the bball court and doing 20 rep squats and hardly any weight at all on deadlifts(too afraid of reinjuring my lower back while on).

 

[GawdsGift]

NO NO NO dont stop the dbal, the sides go away about week 3, i promise, i love d bal. and the pain and discomfort go away. i promise, stay on the d bal. GREAT gains and awesome strength while on. STAY ON

 

[GawdsGift]

i combine it at 30 mg ED stacked with 500 mg sust and 400 mg EQ a wK, the dbal is a keepr in my opinon helps me get 100% out of my work outs.

 

[babbabuee]

hmmm, damn it gawd, now you got me changing my mind again. I'll give you an example of why I thought of dropping it:
Last week I did some ab work and the next day I had this fucking excrutiating pain in my tail bone. I mean down at the end of my tail bone, not lower back muscle. It hurt only when I would bend the wrong way and it hurt bad. the next day i worked through the pain for a shoulder/tri workout and it kind of seemed to go a way. then I tried abs again a couple days later and same thing happened, and it's still a bit painful. I skipped legs as I didn't think I could squat, but I'm still able to hit upper body. I'm taking ldex at .5mg eod which is keeping the bloat manageable. But I'll heed your advice and stay on the dbol for the rest of this week and see what I feel like. I was only going to run it for about 4-5 weeks anyway. Plus I'm out of town and not lifting on Wed/Thurs, so maybe that will give my tail bone some time to heel.

 

[GawdsGift]

good deal. the sides go away. i was having enormous trouble sleeping becasue of the joint pain and i was bitting on my jaw all the time. the discomfort and head aches whent away after 3 weeks and then i just felt pumped to no end when working out. but if you do decide to come off the d bal. you can always send them to me. lol. i am running d bal my ENTIRE CYCLE starting on monday. (crosses fingers) but seriously, i could feel the strength gains deplete just days after i got off d bal and thats not somethgin you really want to feel when your in the middle of a cycle. lol. the sides are a pain but the deplete after a few weeks. 1

 

[babbabuee]

thanks Gawds

 

[satchboogie]

hmmm, damn it gawd, now you got me changing my mind again. I'll give you an example of why I thought of dropping it:
Last week I did some ab work and the next day I had this fucking excrutiating pain in my tail bone. I mean down at the end of my tail bone, not lower back muscle. It hurt only when I would bend the wrong way and it hurt bad.

i wouldnt blame it on the dbols..

it really sounds like an injury stemming from improper form.

 

[babbabuee]

satch, I really don't think it's due to improper form. I've been doing the same exercises and I'm a real stickler about proper form. I can just feel the decrease in my mobility when on dbol. I can't stretch as far and this is exactly what happened on my first cycle, except I tried pushing through it and that's when I hurt my shoulder. In fact, my shoulder was fine up until the time I started the dbol, and I am not lifting any more than before. On the contrary, I'm lifting the same weight, with even more strict form because i'm afraid of hurting my shoulder. and the tail bone thing, I don't know what the fuck is going on with that. today it feels fine. i'm going to try some squats tomorrow to see how it goes.

 

[satchboogie]

i hear ya bro..

if you feel that the dbols are causing you immobility and thus injury then you should stop them.

i've had the same tail bone injury that you're talking about and it stemmed from improper form.

anyhow, i havent had any backpain for about a year now.... ever since i started to deadlift. my lower back, since, has gotten SO much stronger and bigger its sick!

if you dont already deadlift, i'd strongly suggest doing so.

 

[babbabuee]

thanks for the encouragement satch. I'm going to tough this next week out and see how it goes. I'm going to start deadlifting again next year. I'm just not ready to reinjure my lower back while I'm on this cycle.

 

[satchboogie]

thanks for the encouragement satch. I'm going to tough this next week out and see how it goes. I'm going to start deadlifting again next year. I'm just not ready to reinjure my lower back while I'm on this cycle.

understandable...

i think most deadlifting injuries can easily be prevented by decreasing the weight and by REALLY watching the form.

i see too many 'fat headed ego freaks' loading 3-4 plates on each side and their form is begging for an injury.

personally, i'm 214 pounds and quite lean. not the strongest guy but can hold my own.. i deadlift no more than 225. make sure my butt sticks out and that my form is smooth as butta. do 4-5 sets of 6-10 reps and chilling.

good luck my friend.

 

[jersey_pete]

Seated leg presses can be worse on your back then squats..as you said when you lift your ass off the seat you are putting a tremendous load on your lower back. If you squat correctly the I would think the load on your lower back should be minimal.

 

[babbabuee]

you're 100% correct Jersey, when I squat I don't feel any strain on my lower back. Quite the contrary on the leg press. I doubt I'll be doing those anytime soon. Squats, I'm slowly adding weight. but it's good to hear that satch, who is 214lbs is only deadlifting 225. at my peak I was hitting 275 and the form was just ok. Anything beyond 225,my form would suffer. Anyway, I'm so over the big weights. I'm 170lbs and not a big guy and there's no way i'll ever be able to keep up with the big boys, and I'm not even gonna try to. i'm sticking to good form and as the years go by, the weight will slowly progress and eventually I'll be lifting a respectable amount with hellagood form.