Freedom and Prosperity will not be achieved by the falling of America!

[Frackal]

Haha


Bro you're way off.

This post is about addressing those who are chronically calling for the complete fall of the United States. As if that will solve anything.

You did not even address the post, what part(s) specifically do you disagree with?

I do not think things are as bad as I originally thought.

Have you even studied history? If you had in some degree of depth you'd realize that corruption was present from America's inception.

Washington lamented on whether the country was even worth fighting for after his army was continually ripped off on supplies by the very people whose freedom they were dying for.

Thank god he concluded it was, despite the corruption. I am the same. I know there is corruption, but I still think America is worthy of being fought for, not dashed away, which is what this post was addressing. Those who feel that it should be.

This is about human nature. It won't change, I've simply taken a wider view of things aided by more knowledge of history.

There are quite a few things that need to change, that is true. But your anarchist viewpoint is not something I agree with.

My viewpoints have steadily evolved and I speak what I believe...I am not "stroking egos."

If you want to address my post specifically than feel free, but your claim to be able to divine my intentions from a mere posting or two.....

Case in point, ceebs' post had absolutely nothing to do with this thread, we were joking around on yahoo chat last night and that's what the post is from.

 

[Anarchist]

i kow that all but one of the signers of the constitution were masons. i know that they set this country up to be controlled ad voted on by white males only. i know that washington was the ricest man in america when he was president.

dont fool yourself into thinkig your the only person to read in depth on tis board.

i am going to say this, as it may only be understood be me and you and very few others. i know that you know alot about the geopolitical events that are and have went on since the goal of a one world govt became something feasible.

ive often thought myself, that since ive read so much and know to a decent degree how the world turns, that i could get a political science and econoics degree and sell out to a party and become a lackey to one of them. i wouldnt require a great deal of grooming, and ould only have to read up on the talking points given to me by those ive sold out to. i think youve made your decision.

and my anarchist way is of local governance, small federal govt, diplomacy over war if at all possible, truth in govt, true capitalism and not crony capitalism, an isolationist america with a heavy interst in the manufacturing base [which btw made america the only nation hitler feared], and a solid security net thereby proving we are indeed the greatest country in the world. oh, and civil rights? widest possible, not cutting inroads through it.

i defy anyone to tell me how im wrong.

i reguard your post here as something not worth commenting on, as its just like fox news: shit for public consumption. im reading between the lines, where the truth often lay.

you have disreguarded the greater good, and instead set upon the american good.

and one last thing: thomas jefferson was considered a radical among the revolutionaries. he was also the only guy that wasnt a mason. someting tells me he was onto someting about how to run a great democracy.

Jefferson was an anarchist. as am i.

we do share many similar opinions on things frack, but im calling you a spade.

 

[Frackal]

"and my anarchist way is of local governance, small federal govt, diplomacy over war if at all possible, truth in govt, true capitalism and not crony capitalism, an isolationist america with a heavy interst in the manufacturing base [which btw made america the only nation hitler feared], and a solid security net thereby proving we are indeed the greatest country in the world. oh, and civil rights? widest possible, not cutting inroads through it."


Sounds a lot like libertarianism...

Oftentimes one must play the game to do the good. Being totally antonymic just keeps one outside. To get inside, one must be somewhat agreeable.

Now this is not to say that I dont believe in my posting, I do 100%, I think we've done alot of good and that America is worth saving.

Optimally I would be able to get on the inside and start tearing things apart...no matter how far I go I want to get some good done.

I also need to know the reality of this NWO ... whether its a 'man' or a myth.

 

[Spanky11]

Re: Re: Re: Freedom and Prosperity will not be achieved by the falling of America!

1. LOL! yeah, socialism is a huge success if you consider nearly 10% unemployment rates, shitty GDP's, excessive taxation, limited personal freedom, and dependance on the state for everything you do a sucess, then yes, it has been a HUGE success. LOL!!

You are a true moron. Norway's unemployment is around 4.9%, our hospitals are free, and no-one lives under the poverty line.

Poink, please leave red neck America for at least a few months and take a look at the real world. Hopefully your idiotic, republican posts will be less frequent on this board.

 

[Frackal]

Just curious and not instigatory, what are the tax rates like there

 

[Spanky11]

Just curious and not instigatory, what are the tax rates like there

My income is taxed at 37.5%...but thats it, no excess medical bills, no insurance. Yes, its high, but when you consider that all operations are free (not that I hope that I never need one), its a good system.

 

[Frackal]

What are highest brackets?

 

[Spanky11]

What are highest brackets?

that is the highest bracket...just like everyone on elite, I have get a million dollars a month in pay, have 3% bf, engage in hot 3 -somes all the time.....

 

[bwood]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Freedom and Prosperity will not be achieved by the falling of America!

You are a true moron. Norway's unemployment is around 4.9%, our hospitals are free, and no-one lives under the poverty line.

Poink, please leave red neck America for at least a few months and take a look at the real world. Hopefully your idiotic, republican posts will be less frequent on this board.

---honest question

but doesnt norway have a homogenous population and a strong work ethic overall so that people actually get off government programs instead of becoming multigenerational parasites like here???

like it or not, a homogenous population seems to increase the chance of a feeling of nationalism that pervades into the nation's work ethic overall...

the swiss are the same are they not???

---rebuttal to red neck america statement vs real world statement

moon shot, mars explorer missions, massive particle accelerator research sites, democratic republic, keeps china and germany and russia from stomping your asses so you can be lippy...the list goes on...

but keep hating on america...guten morgen!!!

 

[Anarchist]

Oftentimes one must play the game to do the good. Being totally antonymic just keeps one outside. To get inside, one must be somewhat agreeable.

bingo.