Freedom and Prosperity will not be achieved by the falling of America!

[Testosterone boy]

The problem I see with virtually all analysis of America is that it fails to consider America in the past vs. America in the present.

Countries can go from benevolent to malevolent in a short time based simply upon leadership direction and decision making. So can individuals, families, and organizations for that matter. I think it is perhaps more accurate to consider a countries leadership than their history.

Yes.....America accomplished a lot of good, along with some decided evil, in the past. What are doing now is the pertinent question.

The invasion of Iraq was illegal as things stand now. We have a rogue administration that is scaring the shit out of every country in the world along with a very large percentage of informed US citizens. As long as these leaders are steering the ship, America in my opinion is a malevolent entity.

In the meantime, her citizens continue to focus on Clintons blowjob. Terribly sad to witness all these sheep blind to the possibilites opening before their eyes.

 

[Testosterone boy]

BTW Frackal, we all know that you have an interest in politics and since I think you have a good heart I wish you well.

However I wonder if you think your posts could become an issue in some type of future campaign or if you are simply developing a sociopolitical framework to draw upon.

You will know you have approached the big leagues when your ears are grabbed by potential backers and wild pelvic thrusts are made against your will. Politics is a hard core business pal.

 

[p0ink]

once again, testosterone boy is an utter and abject idiot, because he keeps repeating the same mantra even though it is proved otherwise time and time again.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

good post...except...

altruism is not a virtue...

Agreed and Agreed.... If everyone was more selfish and concerned with their own well being we would all be better off. Too much altruism leads to too many societal leeches.

Read "Fountainhead" or "Atlas Shrugged" for more clarification.

 

[bwood]

Well then things should be hunkie dory for you and bwood these days.

I hope your future spouse also holds unto these beliefs so you can both reap what you deserve.

why the animosity towards me???

 

[Testosterone boy]

Agreed and Agreed.... If everyone was more selfish and concerned with their own well being we would all be better off. Too much altruism leads to too many societal leeches.

Read "Fountainhead" or "Atlas Shrugged" for more clarification.

Well then things should be hunkie dory for you and bwood these days.

I hope your future spouse also holds unto these beliefs so you can both reap what you deserve.

 

[Testosterone boy]

why the animosity towards me???

You said that altruism is not a virtue. One may extrapolate from that position and conclude what one may.

 

[bwood]

You said that altruism is not a virtue. One may extrapolate from that position and conclude what one may.

and conclude what???

that i am a bad person???

and deserve a hostile response
that basically states a hope
that bad things will happen to me
in the future???

simply because i believe society as a whole
is better off, if the einsteins, bells, fords, eidsons, etc...
pursue their goals selfishly, rather than doing a
fucking canned food drive???

grow up...when the fuck have i slighted you???

 

[Testosterone boy]

and conclude what???

that i am a bad person???

and deserve a hostile response
that basically states a hope
that bad things will happen to me
in the future???

simply because i believe society as a whole
is better off, if the einsteins, bells, fords, eidsons, etc...
pursue their goals selfishly, rather than doing a
fucking canned food drive???

grow up...when the fuck have i slighted you???

You need to hone your reading skills, my post was mostly directed at TE

 

[Anarchist]

frackals posts over the months have went from the truth, to the populist.

im sorry frack, but what happened in 1776 is a far cry from today. hell, you could say the same of the 60s.

as test boy said, you can say what we HAVE accomplished till your blue in the face. the real question is what will we accomplish? surely america isnt the old man reliant upon his past greatness.

also, i hope like hell you never get close to politics. i sincerly dont think you are any different than a tom daschle or tom delay. all i heard from the last several of your posts is what most of america wants to hear, such as how we are heroes. if i am jacked off, do i not get wood? you have taken on a hooker like quality. you will say what will make the customer feel good.

and, just like idiots that most ppl on here are, they will take what you say as what you really think. you could have easily thought this up at work today.

what you have figured out, and its not too hard to do if one wanted to be manipulative, is how to stroke the collective egos of ppl who have been told all there lives how important they are, and how the worl relies on them.

and ceebs, i like you. i really do. you are a nice girl with a genuine heart. but you are nothing but a cheerleader. i have seen your type backstage of the several concerts ive attended. you have taken on the rambling, drooling, star struck gaze of someone who sees only what they want to see, and beleive every carefully crafted word. i say this knowing full well you will prolly hate me from now on.

i could go on, but i think ive said enough. and despite whatever witty, cutting comeback frack or his rabid latently gay fans will say to me, i will stick to every word ive said.

at this point frackal, i view you as a sellout. not because you like the image america has propelled, ro you buy the altruism of what could be, but that you see what really is, and have decided to join it. your language is not that of a thomas jefferson radical that this country needs, but of an al gore clone who rides te razor thin edge in betwen te lines. may your feet bleed frackal.

Out.