Freedom and Prosperity will not be achieved by the falling of America!

[satchboogie]

WORD!

 

[bwood]

good post...except...

altruism is not a virtue...

 

[FreeballinDC]

LOL....sexually repressed? You're kidding.

Not that you would know with all those dildos in your closet, but yes, sexually repressed.

Why do you think everybody is making a big deal about Queer Eye? If we weren't sexually repressed, then shows like this wouldn't be a big deal. Without feeling repressed (self imposed, me thinks) people would experiment more in the bedroom, and not feel like they had to be embarrassed or a need to hide something.

And I'm talking about the simple stuff, masterbation, oral sex and (Oh My God) ANAL! I would hate to see a sexually repressed person attend an orgy. The next thing you know, they'll be swinging from the chandelier, screaming "Bring it on!!!"

 

[bigschweeler]

LOL....sexually repressed? You're kidding.

Not really...think about it. Think about the TV commericals, programming, repressed ideas about homosexuality.

 

[beastboy]

Don't classify it as repressed sexually if you are going to pinpoint homosexuality. There is enough sex on TV these days that it bothers me for one reason.....that is kids are viewing it at a younger age therefore experimenting with it younger and younger. I think homosexuality is being "accepted" more and more by the masses....but to try and educate people on masturbation and anal sex through the media and government is ridiculous.....don't you think? Essentially isn't that your gripes?

 

[Frackal]

Re: Re: Freedom and Prosperity will not be achieved by the falling of America!

Im surprised by someone who regards himself as a thinker on this board: None of those theories/concpts are American since none of them originated there. Furthermore what makes u think that the U.S. has been the greatest promoter of them , take "justice" for example , where the laughable Nuremberg trials were opened by an American judge proclaiming that the Allies would always maintain their own standards in both prosecution and defence. Contrast that with you're continued refusal to allow U.S. personnel to be tried on war crimes. All this after an internationally illegal war? All of such comments are even only partly true if u insert the phrase "for Americans" after each one , - freedom for Americans (to do whatever the wish) , prosperity for Americans etc. And it's "INalienable". The American media is the most censored blinkered news conglomerate in the West , it repeatedly lies to its people and like sheep they do not demand of their administration to do anything about it. Why were only British crews investigating the veracity of U.S. military reports ? Accountability , give me a break.


First of all what u term socialism , communism capitalism and monetarism were all developed by British people (and two Germans as it happens). Socialism has worked pretty well in France from what I can see , and not too bad in Sweden and Norway either. Do u think that modern capitalistic Russia is any less corrupt than before? Communism is little more than a dream , it is not realistic , at least not in the long term.


You're a young guy Frackal , you've much to learn. Much of what led to the rise of the U.S. was luck and opportunism , Russia could just as easily have filled the vacuum as the U.S. , they had just gutted themselves against the Germans (see numerous threads here regarding the relative size of the Russian war effort). And what of Britain , a once proud nation reduced to lap-dog status. The world needs balance , America is/has behaved as a bully has , even some of my most pro-American friends feel that way , the U.N. for example is essentially a U.N. dictat (example: removal of Peres De Cuela over his opposition to Amercian imperialism and imposition of Kofi Annan). and even they werent goin to fall over and pay for a war entirely in the U.S. interest. I suggest to you that the lives of many Iraqis were needlessly taken from them (and without due cause) in this U.S. show of "justice" and "freedom".

I'm 1/2 awake so I wont' address this fully but a few points:

- All countries are going to put their own needs first, do you think Germany was opposing the United States for 'moral' reasons or selfish reasons? Look, France and Germany supported this repressive regime now because it served your interests currently...we supported them in the past for the same reason...every country in the world is guilty of that, because it's simply human nature.

But I'm talking about macro issues, not micro offenses... Who but America has played a larger role in fighting the totalitarianistic movements of the 20th century? Germany, Russia, Japan, China... Certainly America rising as the victor in those bloody idealogical struggles has bettered the world over?

What if Germany's facism or Russia's communism had prevailed?

In the last Century, of all the movements that had arisen, aren't YOU personally thankful that America prevailed?

Also, you may want to read this:

Declaration of Independence 1776

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

 

[bigschweeler]

Don't classify it as repressed sexually if you are going to pinpoint homosexuality. There is enough sex on TV these days that it bothers me for one reason.....that is kids are viewing it at a younger age therefore experimenting with it younger and younger. I think homosexuality is being "accepted" more and more by the masses....but to try and educate people on masturbation and anal sex through the media and government is ridiculous.....don't you think? Essentially isn't that your gripes?

I would agree that it is being more accepted by the "masses," however I still think we lag behind Europe even in our acceptance of general nudity, and heterosexual sex.

 

[bigschweeler]

Don't forget the Aussies.

True...I missed them.

 

[beastboy]

BTW.....where is all the uproar coming from for that Rent a Homo for a Day Show?

 

[FreeballinDC]

If you were replying to me (but you probably weren't), I am talking about sex in general, not pinpointing it to a subset.

If you don't think we are sexually repressed, head on over to Amsterdam and check out the window girls.