For those not happy with their gains on AAS

[Outtlaw]

Slat. For reals, your levels aren't really that bad. All men will experience a drop in testosterone levels by middle age, (although I've seen it as early as age 30)- After that you usually drop about 2% per year. You're not really considered hypogonadal until you're below 300-this is two standard deviations from the normal of ALL males or put another way-the bottom 2.5 percent of all male testosterone levels. You're sitting above 300. But this is all academic. If the libido is getting you down, maybe its time to free up some natty test by using Proviron-studies show it only minimally affects HTPA. Works its primary effects through SHBG and not through androgen receptor activation.

Yeah, I wouldnt even be stressin over it. You seem to be holding your gains just fine and all. If it's the libido thing that has you down then maybe look into some alternative ways to bring that up, but other than that I wouldnt even be stressin myself over test levels right now if I were you.

 

[markshark]

Imagine what mine are like...
My bloodwork came back and my test levels have dropped again. Now to a pathetic 302 ng/dl on a reference range of 250 - 1100 ng/dl.
My bioavailable test is below the reference range too.
It makes a guy think about jumping on something...

give in. u know u want it.

 

[Big_Joe]

I'm 33. Last shot was of tren ent and test ent in the last week of July. Everything was out of my system the first week of August. Test was 500mgs/wk and tren ent was 500mgs/wk. I used hcg at wk 5 & 10 at 500iu's/day for ten days. I also used dostinex .5mgs mon/wed throughout. I used clomid 300/100/50 for 28 days after the esters cleared.
So its been about 8 months that I have been clean. I always used the time on = time off theory too.
What sucks is my test levels are continually dropping!

I think it's the tren. I'm willing to bet money that your prolactin levels are high. This is what is causing your decreased libido. If I was you I would give some dostinex a try.

 

[DJ_UFO]

I think it's the tren. I'm willing to bet money that your prolactin levels are high. This is what is causing your decreased libido. If I was you I would give some dostinex a try.

That sounds about right...also, I don't think that PCT was "by the book" something maybe was not accurate with HCG...I'd say try a new PCT and complement with a natty PCT. ANd of course don't fuck with your hormones for a long time. STay healthy, watch a lot of porn.

 

[dr_skier]

Bro, i'd run another pct, what do you have to loose, i mean, it beats jumping into hrt asap right?

 

[galaxy]

Why not just do the hrt? If your getting blood work and everything is fine, your monitoring bp, i would think everything would be fine....I would even think 250mgs would be fine without any negative sides? Just do a pct run every 3 months for a good 6 weeks and then go back on the test. And i only say that if having kids becomes a concern. Not that i see that anytime soon.LOL

 

[OMEGA]

250 a week

 

[black sheep]

SLat, what did your last PCT look like?

 

[slat1]

SLat, what did your last PCT look like?

HCG 500iu's a day for 10 days week 5 and 10. I used 20mgs of nolva in conjunction with the HCG.
Once the esters cleared I used 300mgs of clomid day 1, 100mgs day 2 through 11 and 50 mgs day 12 through 28.

 

[black sheep]

Slat,

I would give another stab at PCT before resorting to HRT. After the last Tren cycle I did the following:

(I ALWAYS finish with short esters when using tren)

Day 1 (Day after the last Prop injection) 5000 iu's of HCG
Day 5 5000 iu's of HCG
HCG 1000 iu's MWF on week 2 and 3 of PCT
Day 1-35 Nolva 20mg ED
Day 1-21 Clomid 50mg ED
Arimidex .25mg ED Day 1-35 (This ran the whole cycle from day 1)

Give this a shot - 2 weeks after you finish the Nolva go back and get Blood work again..