For those not happy with their gains on AAS

[immortalis]

Imagine what mine are like...
My bloodwork came back and my test levels have dropped again. Now to a pathetic 302 ng/dl on a reference range of 250 - 1100 ng/dl.
My bioavailable test is below the reference range too.
It makes a guy think about jumping on something...

You've been clean for quite a while now, right Slat?

 

[Nighthawkk]

Wow, that can't be good. What was your last cycle and what did the PCT look like? My test was only about 412 ng/dl after my last 8-month cycle, but I was in the mid to high range of free test % which is probably why I still had a really strong sex drive. Have you tried extending nolv intake and adding some tribulus, maca, or avena sativa?

 

[dullboy]

hcg?

 

[slat1]

I'm 33. Last shot was of tren ent and test ent in the last week of July. Everything was out of my system the first week of August. Test was 500mgs/wk and tren ent was 500mgs/wk. I used hcg at wk 5 & 10 at 500iu's/day for ten days. I also used dostinex .5mgs mon/wed throughout. I used clomid 300/100/50 for 28 days after the esters cleared.
So its been about 8 months that I have been clean. I always used the time on = time off theory too.
What sucks is my test levels are continually dropping!

 

[Quiltie]

Wow, it sounds like you did everything 'by the book' and are still having trouble... Keep us updated on what the doc says. Good luck

 

[sweed]

sorry to hear bro. so after your appt with the endo, and there is an option of hrt, would u consider it. or would u just jump on a cycle...
good luck with everything man!!

 

[surferstar]

Imagine what mine are like...
My bloodwork came back and my test levels have dropped again. Now to a pathetic 302 ng/dl on a reference range of 250 - 1100 ng/dl.
My bioavailable test is below the reference range too.
It makes a guy think about jumping on something...

DO IT !!!! you know you wanna get more of at the beach lol

 

[slat1]

sorry to hear bro. so after your appt with the endo, and there is an option of hrt, would u consider it. or would u just jump on a cycle...
good luck with everything man!!

If she says HRT I would probably wind up using AAS again. So I hope there are some other options at this point.
I guess I will find out soon enough.
BTW. I just read in MD there is a product out there that increased you ng/dl by almost 300 without supressing your natural production. I plan on asking her about it. I can't remember the name at this point.

 

[todoveritas]

Slat. For reals, your levels aren't really that bad. All men will experience a drop in testosterone levels by middle age, (although I've seen it as early as age 30)- After that you usually drop about 2% per year. You're not really considered hypogonadal until you're below 300-this is two standard deviations from the normal of ALL males or put another way-the bottom 2.5 percent of all male testosterone levels. You're sitting above 300. But this is all academic. If the libido is getting you down, maybe its time to free up some natty test by using Proviron-studies show it only minimally affects HTPA. Works its primary effects through SHBG and not through androgen receptor activation.

 

[Bruce]

slat have you considered running another pct. i believe that it might help you. run 1000iu's of hcg for 10 days with nolva 20mg ed for 3 weeks. disf had luck with this, his test levels were lower than yours. furthermore i came off a deca test e cycle in january. i was fine until february. just like you i ran a good hcg pct with nolva, however, i had ran the pct a week after my last shot and was fine for a bit. then late february i lost all sex drive and was very lethargic. i ran another pct and i am good to go, my sex drive is insane. i highly suggest doing this. also i had never used clomid before but i incorporated it in this last pct and i am good to go. proviron also helped as well. i got these ideas with the help of ulter djsf. i'm going to look for the link to the thread that shows djsf's recovery.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=456018&highlight=low+test+levels