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First cycle would like input

theoak01

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here is what i had in mind

sust winny
wk1 250 50mg/ed
wk2 250 50mg/ed
wk3 250
wk4 250
wk5 250
wk6 250
wk7 250
wk 8 250
wk9 clomid 50mged

the winny is jsut to kick start it and i kick start it and its all the winny i can afford,and seeing as its my first cycle i should be able to run 250 a week for the cycle and make about 15lbs of gains right?

any input welcome,if you guys think that i should run the winny longer ill prob just drop it,but this is all ill be able to afford for a bit
 
I would up the Sust to 500mg/week and run the Winny at 50mg/Day for the first 4 weeks. The 50mg/tabs are cheap so you should be able to afford it. Start the Clomid 3 weeks after your last shot of Sust. E-mail or PM me if you have any Q's

M18
 
i have roughly 190 to work with ,thats why im thinking only 250 a week,what kind of gains would i see off that,and i think im gonna drop the winny
 
The Canadian Oak said:
i have roughly 190 to work with ,thats why im thinking only 250 a week,what kind of gains would i see off that,and i think im gonna drop the winny

If you drop the Winny then why not throw is some D-Bol at 20-25mg/Day for the first 3-4 weeks of your cycle ? It is cheap and is a good kick start to your cycle. There is no telling how much weight you will gain on a cycle but as long as you have a good diet I think you will see good results even off such a low dose.

M18
 
Dude belive me 250 isnt enough especially if you dont stack it with something like deca or dbols...... with sustanon 500 i gained about 19 lbs ..... plus I would run the winny at the end (last 4 weeks) helps a lot for the water retention.
 
if i add anything ill have to wait till september so i may order the sust now and get the rest later

so what about

Sust Dbol
500 25
500 25
500 25
500 25
500
500
500
500

and then 3 weeks after sust take 50mg ed of clomid?
 
The Canadian Oak said:
if i add anything ill have to wait till september so i may order the sust now and get the rest later

so what about

Sust Dbol
500 25
500 25
500 25
500 25
500
500
500
500

and then 3 weeks after sust take 50mg ed of clomid?

Great cycle bro....Start the Clomid 3 weeks after your last shot of Sust...Start with 300mg/Day for the first day of Clomid use then take 100mg/Day for the next 6 days of that week, the next week take 50mg/Day and the final week take 50mg/every other day. Make sure you have Nolvadex on hand and use Milk Thistle through out to help protect the liver

M18
 
Dude, forget about the sust - it's too expensive IMO. Replace it with some T200 and you'll be set.
 
ya i agree it looks great but im debating to wait till september and buy what i listed above or go now and run a 250 sust for 8 weeks along with dbol,ill figure this out in the very near future,i just wanted to get started for school,maybe go back a bit heavier,hell if i get up to 185 or more ill be so pleased

so maybe i should wait till sept and do it right?
 
The Canadian Oak said:
i have roughly 190 to work with ,thats why im thinking only 250 a week,what kind of gains would i see off that,and i think im gonna drop the winny


If all you can come up with is $190 than you are too young to be doing steriods your natural test level is high enough, buy some protien instead
 
I agree with Mustang's cycle. That is almost identical to my first cycle which I gained a little over 20 pounds from and kept about 15.
I think winny would be useless for kickstarting a bulking cycle, the dbol would be perfect.

And yeah, like Mikey said if you too young, under I would say 21 or 22, don't do roids, you will only be hurting yourself.
 
The Canadian Oak said:

so maybe i should wait till sept and do it right?

I think waiting would be your best option to wait as you will be much happier with your results

M18
 
im set on doing this cycle so thats outta the question,i only have 190 because thats what i get paid tomorrow,im definitly considering running 250 sust for 8 weeks with dbol,i figure that would be good for s first cycle,and nathan i dont have a price for t-200 from my source so im just gonna stick to sust,omna is a bit cheaper ill prob buy that since its the same stuff
 
i have decided on 500mg of omna a week for 8 weeks,i dont really care about kick starting it for the time being so since ill be getting paid again sept 5,i could buy the first four weeks of my cycle and get started then one sept 5 order my next half and then take it,im only considering this since i have a domestic source,any thoughts
 
The Canadian Oak said:
i have decided on 500mg of omna a week for 8 weeks,i dont really care about kick starting it for the time being so since ill be getting paid again sept 5,i could buy the first four weeks of my cycle and get started then one sept 5 order my next half and then take it,im only considering this since i have a domestic source,any thoughts

Even though you have a domestic I would never start until you have all your stuff but it is your choice

M18
 
your right dood,im just impatient as hell since i wanna get started and get bigger,maybe ill get some respect this year
 
The Canadian Oak said:
your right dood,im just impatient as hell since i wanna get started and get bigger,maybe ill get some respect this year


Respect doesn't come from doing steriods it comes from your actions and the way you carry yourself. Doing steriods just to get the respect of people that you feel disrespected you in the past is the wrong way of doing things and could prove disasterous. I understand what you mean about being dead set on doing a cycle even though I really think you should wait. Mustang advice is right on about waiting until you have your whole cycle before starting, I've seen too many of my friends ruin thier whole cycles by being impatient. After all that said I wish you the best of luck in your cycle I just hope you take the advice of those more experienced than yourself
 
im definatly gonna wait till its all here,and by respect i mean less shit,i carry myself well and am nice but the popular people shit on me cuz i wasnt big enuff to defend myself,if im bigger then them they will be scared and fuck off,this isnt just to get people to fuck off,ive always wanted to be bigger,i love seeing the mirror change,and im a short fuck so mass looks bigger on me,if i get to like 190 ill look good i figure
 
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