First cycle, any help from Vets would be awesome

[Akorsis]

Hey guys, I'm 31 years old, been training hard the past 6 years, 5'9". Have a 420 lb. squat, 315 bench and a 485 deadlift. I'm around 12% body fat and looking to put on some muscle because the gains are coming in harder and harder the past couple of years.

Here is my proposed cycle

Week 1-12 Test Cyp 500mg/week
Week 1-4 D-bol @40mg/day
HCGenerate week 8-12
Arimidex (as needed, probably around .25mg e3d)

I'd also like to keep my PCT "over the counter" as much as possible.
Unleased
Post-Cycle and maybe forma stanzol.

Any and all advice is welcome. I hope to learn a lot from you guys!

 

[RADAR]

Looks like you did the homework,500mg of test is perfect,good to have the adex on hand.
PCT You can use Forma stanazol (mr Supps) Needto10 is your discount code
Unleashed,HCgenerate(NTBM) RADAR15 gets you 15% off.

Now get out there an kill it!!!!!!!

 

[Judo Tom]

looks good. 40mg of dbol might be a bit high to start but could be fine as well.

good luck w/ the cycle.

 

[Akorsis]

Ok, so is post cycle ok to use too? And thanks! I'm ready to dive off the deep end lol. And should I get letro in case of gyno? I have no idea how gyno prone I am. If I do get it, how much should I use?

 

[Akorsis]

Thanks Judo Tom!

 

[Nelson Montana]

Cut the dosage of dbol in half and use it for just 2 weeks. Add some N2 Guard. The rest looks good.

 

[Akorsis]

Ok not a problem, I'll also be using liver protection while on the d-bol. Thanks guys!

 

[Flash421]

Cut the dosage of dbol in half and use it for just 2 weeks. Add some N2 Guard. The rest looks good.

Just curious why you would tell him to only take dbol at 20mg for two weeks...wouldn't 30mg for 4 weeks benifit him more..

 

[daveyboy2345]

20 mgs dbol only for 4 weeks, 10 weeks on test is long enough imho.

 

[Arabian]

Looks great. And I can tell that you put the time in to research everything you are going to do. 500 Test / 40 Dbol is a perfect combination and you will see great results. Remember, to dial your training in and EAT. Good luck

 

[stevesmi]

20 mgs dbol only for 4 weeks, 10 weeks on test is long enough imho.

THIS. at his size for a first cycle this should be plenty and since he has a fantastic base and strength already he will think he is on cloud 9. 10 weeks is all he needs, the cyp esthers will give him 12 weeks total.

he can up the dbol to 30mg if he deems necessary and then drop it back down to 20mg if the sides become too much. he can play it by ear.

i would also recommend running HCG starting week 4 to keep the nuts plump and make for an easier landing

 

[stevesmi]

Looks great. And I can tell that you put the time in to research everything you are going to do. 500 Test / 40 Dbol is a perfect combination and you will see great results. Remember, to dial your training in and EAT. Good luck

i hit him with K.. about time a newb comes on here and has done their due diligence. kudos to him.

 

[Akorsis]

Thanks guys! This sort of thing isn't "learn as you go". It's kinda like cave jumping, once you jump, you better know what you're doing and how everything works. Would substituting HCGenerate for hcg at week 4 be ok as well? Money isn't an issue as AAS isn't something I'm looking to go cheap on if it sacrifices my overall health quality.

 

[RADAR]

This is the first time I've heard Nelson say Dbol for 2 wks,If you're going to da a kick start you want to run it long enough until the test esters start breaking in (4wks),and 2 wks ain't gonna cut it!

 

[Nelson Montana]

This is the first time I've heard Nelson say Dbol for 2 wks,If you're going to da a kick start you want to run it long enough until the test esters start breaking in (4wks),and 2 wks ain't gonna cut it!

An orals ester is available within minutes. That's the whole point of using them as a kickstart. Besides, it's his first cycle. You make great gains on a first cycle. I think it should be approached with caution.

I've never gone over 25 mgs of dbol and never for more than 4 weeks, so expecting a first timer to take it easy and not expect miracles first time out is not unreasonable.

 

[RADAR]

An orals ester is available within minutes. That's the whole point of using them as a kickstart. Besides, it's his first cycle. You make great gains on a first cycle. I think it should be approached with caution.

I've never gone over 25 mgs of dbol and never for more than 4 weeks, so expecting a first timer to take it easy and not expect miracles first time out is not unreasonable.

Agree 100% with ya!

 

[TheN1ghtmare21]

This look good, keep some clomid on hand as well depending on how shutdown you are i used purchase peps clomid for my pct that will start beginning of aug

 

[Akorsis]

This look good, keep some clomid on hand as well depending on how shutdown you are i used purchase peps clomid for my pct that will start beginning of aug

How much should be used post cycle? 50 mg? For how long?