First Cycle Advice?

[bsdgeek]

there is a question out there we would like to know before you get any further advice

it's funny how we keep seeing the trend of no stats, age, training history or anything. then the immediate first cycle is stacked with a very high dose of test. WTF??? why is it everyone want's to jump right on a stack?

and why sus? do you really want to pin twice a week minimum?? bro, pinning gets old fast, and to have to do that shit twice a week, makes it get even more old. there's no glory in sticking a pin in your ass, quad, delt or where ever. and if you get fortunate enough to ever pin a nerve, or pin a blood vessel, then it'll make you even more pin-shy. i've got buddies who won't pin themselves anymore just because of a miscalculated pin. it's funny to me, but if you happen to fall into that category, then who'd pin you??

so, my advice to you would be low dose test only cycle to start. start with cypionate, 250-300 / wk for 10 - 12 weeks. if you want to kickstart with dbol, that's your choice, but i'd recommend sticking to the test only. hell, you may not even have any sides with that dose, and you'd feel good while on. jus my 2.

 

[J.S.M.]

Oh, yeah. Sorry, I did mean sets. Plus I already posted my age lol

 

[get456]

Has anyone on here ever had bad side effects from nolvadex?

no one I've ever seen

Nolvadex is not a great AI, but it IS great for gyno prevention specifically without really reducing overall estrogen much... therefore a good choice for someone gyno prone, but without the need for something stronger

 

[swole]

I'm rather new to all of this, and I'm to run a cycle soon. I figured that taking a second to ask would be worth not doing anything potentially destructive to myself. This is my cycle-

Week Of Cycle--Deca-Durabolin--(Nandrolone Decanoate)--Sustanon--Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)


1--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
2--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
3--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day--six days per week
4--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
5--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
6--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
7--400mg per week--500mg per week--No Dianabol
8--400mg per week--500mg per week--No Dianabol

How does that sound? I have 40 tabs of Nolvadex (20mg/tab) on hand as well, but unsure of how to utilize it. Or if I even should. I was also considering using hCG throughout the entire cycle up to the PCT, but...I'm not sure what a good PCT for this might be. Any ideas? I'm not expecting everyone to take there time to help me with this, but a little guidance would be very appreciated. Oh, and I've got Liver Support Tabs too.

Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this, and especially to those who might offer any help

Simple as shit:

WK 1-12 400-500mg Test Enanthate or Cyp
WK 1-4 30mg DBOL
WK 4-12 500iu 2xEW
WK 14 - 17 4 Pumps Derma Sustain ED

Nelson and monkey arms have suggested other items for PCT, look into those as well.

 

[needtogetaas]

Simple as shit:

WK 1-12 400-500mg Test Enanthate or Cyp
WK 1-4 30mg DBOL
WK 4-12 500iu 2xEW
WK 14 - 17 4 Pumps Derma Sustain ED

And it looks better to. lol I hate when some one rights out a cycle and it takes up 2 pages.

 

[monkey arms]

And it looks better to. lol I hate when some one rights out a cycle and it takes up 2 pages.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'll condone this cycle for all newbies

STATS YOU SAY?
why not......lets have everyone put a picture and current stats in their sig...

BTW
ME:
Age: 35
Wt: 223 lbs
Ht: 6'1'
6%

 

[monkey arms]

Yep.

And recommeneding at least 10 weeks of Deca is flat out dumb.

Nolvadex is garbage. HCG UNLEASHEDED, POST CYCLE, Dermacrine Sustain and a half tab of dexx or aramasin EOD is the PCT that is safer and more effective.

With all due respect....lets be a little more cautious when calling something GARBAGE. And lets keep in mind the old saying "Follow the Money" ;-)

I've always had incredible results with Nolvadex, and NEVER a bad side and NEVER heard or any one reporting bad sides. ADEX, ARA, have been nothing but bad news for me. I cant comment on "HCG UNLEASHED" "POST CYCLE" or any other name brand designer snake oil. I stick to what works for me and probably will work for the majority of people.

 

[alexl2]

With all due respect....lets be a little more cautious when calling something GARBAGE. And lets keep in mind the old saying "Follow the Money" ;-)

I've always had incredible results with Nolvadex, and NEVER a bad side and NEVER heard or any one reporting bad sides. ADEX, ARA, have been nothing but bad news for me. I cant comment on "HCG UNLEASHED" "POST CYCLE" or any other name brand designer snake oil. I stick to what works for me and probably will work for the majority of people.

I agree 100%.

I too have NEVER heard of anybody having any side effects from nolvadex. And i dont like it when people discourage others of using these tried and true drugs,(nolva, clomid) to try and market their own products when most likely they would be better of with the nolvadex. But you could use these supplements to do just that, "supplement" their regular PCT regime.

 

[khemix]

Keep it simple man. Leave the multi-compound stacking until later. I gained 31lbs on 400mg/wk of test cyp and 20mg/ed of dbol in 10 wks, dbol for 3.

Listen to the advice everyone here has and keep your test dose below 500. Start dbol at 20-25mg/ed and dont run it for more than 5 weeks. I also recomment Enanthate or Cypionate over Sust. So heres my opinion:

Test, 400mg/wk, 1-10wks
Dbol, 20-25mg/ed, 1-4wks

Letrozole on hand for high estrogen, leading to bloat and/or gyno.

Remember bro, keep it simple.

Chris