First Cycle Advice?

[J.S.M.]

I'm rather new to all of this, and I'm to run a cycle soon. I figured that taking a second to ask would be worth not doing anything potentially destructive to myself. This is my cycle-

Week Of Cycle--Deca-Durabolin--(Nandrolone Decanoate)--Sustanon--Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)


1--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
2--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
3--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day--six days per week
4--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
5--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
6--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
7--400mg per week--500mg per week--No Dianabol
8--400mg per week--500mg per week--No Dianabol

How does that sound? I have 40 tabs of Nolvadex (20mg/tab) on hand as well, but unsure of how to utilize it. Or if I even should. I was also considering using hCG throughout the entire cycle up to the PCT, but...I'm not sure what a good PCT for this might be. Any ideas? I'm not expecting everyone to take there time to help me with this, but a little guidance would be very appreciated. Oh, and I've got Liver Support Tabs too.

Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this, and especially to those who might offer any help

 

[anadrol-king]

I'm rather new to all of this, and I'm to run a cycle soon. I figured that taking a second to ask would be worth not doing anything potentially destructive to myself. This is my cycle-

Week Of Cycle--Deca-Durabolin--(Nandrolone Decanoate)--Sustanon--Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)


1--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
2--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
3--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day--six days per week
4--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
5--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
6--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
7--400mg per week--500mg per week--No Dianabol
8--400mg per week--500mg per week--No Dianabol

How does that sound? I have 40 tabs of Nolvadex (20mg/tab) on hand as well, but unsure of how to utilize it. Or if I even should. I was also considering using hCG throughout the entire cycle up to the PCT, but...I'm not sure what a good PCT for this might be. Any ideas? I'm not expecting everyone to take there time to help me with this, but a little guidance would be very appreciated. Oh, and I've got Liver Support Tabs too.

Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this, and especially to those who might offer any help

this is your first cycle so i would say to you cut out the deca and run the sust and dbol

weeks 1-12 125mgs of sust every other day

weeks 1-4 40mgs dbol every day

you should get very good gains of this cycle....

save deca for next cycle

 

[anadrol-king]

by the way what are your stats

age

hight

weight

body fat

diet(calares epr day)

 

[Donnie Darko]

Stick with Sust and dbol for the first cycle.

 

[levi8599]

you need to run the dbol every day not just six days a week.

 

[GUARDIAN]

250mg of sus is plenty for a 1st cycle

 

[alexl2]

If you are dead set on taking deca, run it at least 10 weeks. It takes a while to kick in.

 

[theperfectdrug187]

250mg of sus is plenty for a 1st cycle

Agreed. My 1st cycle I put on 13 lbs in 8 weeks with 250mg/week Sustanon alone. It'd be a good cycle to start with to see if you can handle the sides and PCT.

 

[xrsist]

I'm rather new to all of this, and I'm to run a cycle soon. I figured that taking a second to ask would be worth not doing anything potentially destructive to myself. This is my cycle-

Week Of Cycle--Deca-Durabolin--(Nandrolone Decanoate)--Sustanon--Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)


1--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
2--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
3--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day--six days per week
4--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
5--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
6--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
7--400mg per week--500mg per week--No Dianabol
8--400mg per week--500mg per week--No Dianabol

How does that sound? I have 40 tabs of Nolvadex (20mg/tab) on hand as well, but unsure of how to utilize it. Or if I even should. I was also considering using hCG throughout the entire cycle up to the PCT, but...I'm not sure what a good PCT for this might be. Any ideas? I'm not expecting everyone to take there time to help me with this, but a little guidance would be very appreciated. Oh, and I've got Liver Support Tabs too.

Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this, and especially to those who might offer any help

hey bro good to see you came here looking for advice.
theres plenty of good guys here willing to help.
how old are you?
for a first cycle mate that is way too much gear, test/sust only is enough, why use more if you dont have to??
no nolvadex when running a nandrolone (decca) due to increase risk in sides.
be sure to study up about AI like adex and letro you will need to have them before you start any cycle.
your diet will play the biggest part in this process mate, whats your current diet look like?
hows your training?

 

[Nelson Montana]

250mg of sus is plenty for a 1st cycle

Yep.

And recommeneding at least 10 weeks of Deca is flat out dumb.

Nolvadex is garbage. HCG UNLEASHEDED, POST CYCLE, Dermacrine Sustain and a half tab of dexx or aramasin EOD is the PCT that is safer and more effective.

 

[get456]

Age???

 

[alexl2]

Bro, run HCG at 500 mg/week throughout the cycle. PCT- all you need is nolvadex and sustain alpha.
Week 1-4(two weeks after your last inject): Nolva-20 mg/day

 

[anadrol-king]

Bro, run HCG at 500 mg/week throughout the cycle. PCT- all you need is nolvadex and sustain alpha.
Week 1-4(two weeks after your last inject): Nolva-20 mg/day

??????????hcg comes in iu,s??????????????????

 

[alexl2]

??????????hcg comes in iu,s??????????????????

Thats what i meant.

 

[monkey arms]

If you haven't purchased your gear yet, try something less exotic as sus. I've run it all, and Sust SEEMS like a great thing, but honestly i wasn't that impressed, AND since it is your first cycle stick with something that has a shorter 1/2 life than the stuff in Sust, and like most said keep the DECA for another time.

I ran Test CYP @ 200/wk my first cycle....and I WISH I had doubled it. Stick with something simple. If you do Want to run Dbol keep it to 2 weeks maybe 3 if you are having fun.

I'm not sure where or when Nolvadex got such a bad name but AROMASIN can have nasty sides in MY EXPERIENCE. Nolvadex handles sides VERY well for me. Where those antiaromatases' make my bones ache, kill my libido, and generally make me feel like shit.

Run Nolva if you start to have sides 20-60mgs/day until the sides are gone!

Seems like PCT.....has become a catchy phrase around here. Keep it simple. HCG during cycle or the last half has always worked well for me. 1000 i/u's per week for the last few, or 5000 i.u.'s every 5 days starting your last week, and get 20,000iu's.

Skip the expensive trend or flavor of the week that I see being pushed around here, and keep it simple, and stick with effective tried and proven winners.

 

[J.S.M.]

Thanks for all the suggestions, wow. I never expected to have so much input given all the other threads. Thanks As for my personal information, I'm 24 at 200lbs, 5' 7" but my Body Fat I'm not sure of. It's not high though. My training isn't overly intense, only about 9-12 exercises per body part (3-4 failure sets) and my calories have been about 3500-4000 for a while now. Clean, with a 3:4 ratio of protein:carbohydrates. With the advise I've been given here, I'm sure to make adjustments to my cycle.

This really is an amazing place to look for help, so thanks again guys. I'm sure I'll be having more questions, so expect me to be back around at some point lol

 

[GUARDIAN]

Thanks for all the suggestions, wow. I never expected to have so much input given all the other threads. Thanks As for my personal information, I'm 24 at 200lbs, 5' 7" but my Body Fat I'm not sure of. It's not high though. My training isn't overly intense, only about 9-12 exercises per body part (3-4 failure sets) and my calories have been about 3500-4000 for a while now. Clean, with a 3:4 ratio of protein:carbohydrates. With the advise I've been given here, I'm sure to make adjustments to my cycle.

This really is an amazing place to look for help, so thanks again guys. I'm sure I'll be having more questions, so expect me to be back around at some point lol

9-12 exercises per body part or did u mean sets? cuz if it is the first case that is alot of volume, overtraining imo.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Skip the expensive trend or flavor of the week that I see being pushed around here, and keep it simple, and stick with effective tried and proven winners.

I wouldn't consider Nolvadex "proven" or especially effective for anything other than breast tumors. The sides can be really nasty too.

 

[alexl2]

Has anyone on here ever had bad side effects from nolvadex?

 

[eddymerckx]

Age???

there is a question out there we would like to know before you get any further advice

 

[bsdgeek]

there is a question out there we would like to know before you get any further advice

it's funny how we keep seeing the trend of no stats, age, training history or anything. then the immediate first cycle is stacked with a very high dose of test. WTF??? why is it everyone want's to jump right on a stack?

and why sus? do you really want to pin twice a week minimum?? bro, pinning gets old fast, and to have to do that shit twice a week, makes it get even more old. there's no glory in sticking a pin in your ass, quad, delt or where ever. and if you get fortunate enough to ever pin a nerve, or pin a blood vessel, then it'll make you even more pin-shy. i've got buddies who won't pin themselves anymore just because of a miscalculated pin. it's funny to me, but if you happen to fall into that category, then who'd pin you??

so, my advice to you would be low dose test only cycle to start. start with cypionate, 250-300 / wk for 10 - 12 weeks. if you want to kickstart with dbol, that's your choice, but i'd recommend sticking to the test only. hell, you may not even have any sides with that dose, and you'd feel good while on. jus my 2.

 

[J.S.M.]

Oh, yeah. Sorry, I did mean sets. Plus I already posted my age lol

 

[get456]

Has anyone on here ever had bad side effects from nolvadex?

no one I've ever seen

Nolvadex is not a great AI, but it IS great for gyno prevention specifically without really reducing overall estrogen much... therefore a good choice for someone gyno prone, but without the need for something stronger

 

[swole]

I'm rather new to all of this, and I'm to run a cycle soon. I figured that taking a second to ask would be worth not doing anything potentially destructive to myself. This is my cycle-

Week Of Cycle--Deca-Durabolin--(Nandrolone Decanoate)--Sustanon--Dianabol (Methandrostenolone)


1--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
2--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
3--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day--six days per week
4--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
5--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
6--400mg per week--500mg per week--30mg per day six days per week
7--400mg per week--500mg per week--No Dianabol
8--400mg per week--500mg per week--No Dianabol

How does that sound? I have 40 tabs of Nolvadex (20mg/tab) on hand as well, but unsure of how to utilize it. Or if I even should. I was also considering using hCG throughout the entire cycle up to the PCT, but...I'm not sure what a good PCT for this might be. Any ideas? I'm not expecting everyone to take there time to help me with this, but a little guidance would be very appreciated. Oh, and I've got Liver Support Tabs too.

Thanks to anyone who took the time to read this, and especially to those who might offer any help

Simple as shit:

WK 1-12 400-500mg Test Enanthate or Cyp
WK 1-4 30mg DBOL
WK 4-12 500iu 2xEW
WK 14 - 17 4 Pumps Derma Sustain ED

Nelson and monkey arms have suggested other items for PCT, look into those as well.

 

[needtogetaas]

Simple as shit:

WK 1-12 400-500mg Test Enanthate or Cyp
WK 1-4 30mg DBOL
WK 4-12 500iu 2xEW
WK 14 - 17 4 Pumps Derma Sustain ED

And it looks better to. lol I hate when some one rights out a cycle and it takes up 2 pages.

 

[monkey arms]

And it looks better to. lol I hate when some one rights out a cycle and it takes up 2 pages.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'll condone this cycle for all newbies

STATS YOU SAY?
why not......lets have everyone put a picture and current stats in their sig...

BTW
ME:
Age: 35
Wt: 223 lbs
Ht: 6'1'
6%

 

[monkey arms]

Yep.

And recommeneding at least 10 weeks of Deca is flat out dumb.

Nolvadex is garbage. HCG UNLEASHEDED, POST CYCLE, Dermacrine Sustain and a half tab of dexx or aramasin EOD is the PCT that is safer and more effective.

With all due respect....lets be a little more cautious when calling something GARBAGE. And lets keep in mind the old saying "Follow the Money" ;-)

I've always had incredible results with Nolvadex, and NEVER a bad side and NEVER heard or any one reporting bad sides. ADEX, ARA, have been nothing but bad news for me. I cant comment on "HCG UNLEASHED" "POST CYCLE" or any other name brand designer snake oil. I stick to what works for me and probably will work for the majority of people.

 

[alexl2]

With all due respect....lets be a little more cautious when calling something GARBAGE. And lets keep in mind the old saying "Follow the Money" ;-)

I've always had incredible results with Nolvadex, and NEVER a bad side and NEVER heard or any one reporting bad sides. ADEX, ARA, have been nothing but bad news for me. I cant comment on "HCG UNLEASHED" "POST CYCLE" or any other name brand designer snake oil. I stick to what works for me and probably will work for the majority of people.

I agree 100%.

I too have NEVER heard of anybody having any side effects from nolvadex. And i dont like it when people discourage others of using these tried and true drugs,(nolva, clomid) to try and market their own products when most likely they would be better of with the nolvadex. But you could use these supplements to do just that, "supplement" their regular PCT regime.

 

[khemix]

Keep it simple man. Leave the multi-compound stacking until later. I gained 31lbs on 400mg/wk of test cyp and 20mg/ed of dbol in 10 wks, dbol for 3.

Listen to the advice everyone here has and keep your test dose below 500. Start dbol at 20-25mg/ed and dont run it for more than 5 weeks. I also recomment Enanthate or Cypionate over Sust. So heres my opinion:

Test, 400mg/wk, 1-10wks
Dbol, 20-25mg/ed, 1-4wks

Letrozole on hand for high estrogen, leading to bloat and/or gyno.

Remember bro, keep it simple.

Chris