Female AND on Xtreme tren

[needtogetaas]

NEEDTO,

The reason I'm curious is I did a bottle of the Furazadrol with minimal results. I've done 2 cycles of Bold 200 with decent results. The Bold did cause acne and an irregular period but nothing else that I noticed. I have lifted for 10 years and have always ate a healthy diet. I have really started to work on my diet the past 6 months to get to the level of a competitor. I have never competed but several friends at the gym have started and I wouldn't mind trying a masters division. My point....besides illegals and the Furazadrol, what could I use to gain a little more muscle? I noticed you said beastrol was better than var, but is it okay for us ladies. A few of the ladies I work out with take anavar but I'm a little afraid of anything illegal. Is var the best bet, should I try the Furazadrol again? Not looking to do anything anytime soon but just gathering as much info as possible from people who know more than me.

Rebecca D

Well I could be a real prick and say OOHHH ya beastdrol is bad ass,its legal and it will give you massive gains (which it will) and leave it at that. Since I sell make and sell the product.

I am sorry babe but I would not wish beastdrol on a woman. Its by far the most powerful oral compound ever and its a strong dht derivative.

Besides even if you were to take it you would need to take AAAHH 2.5mg ed. And like all superdrol brands my beastdrol comes in 10mg caps. You would need to open up the cap and split that into 4 doses.


Now even though William llewelly's anabolics 9th gives dosing guidelines for woman and makes reference to the fact that woman do use the compound. I myself am not so comfortable saying its ok. Again everyone makes there own choices in life. The compound is very androgenic!! As in manly man man put the hair on your chest
So For woman I give it a no.

Anny kind of tren derivative I would also give a no.
Women should not be taking any compound which is highly androgenic and the true prohormones on the market now are androgenic. I haven't seen any prohormones for winstrol, primobolan, anavar(besides Furazadrol) which are the only anabolics I would recommend to any woman (if I was ever to do so in the first place)..

Truthfully I can only give you the information and its up to you to make your choices. To give you an Idea of what is out there.

Methoxy-TST
Innovator: Bioscience Technologies
Nomenclature: 17b-methoxytrienosterone
Pill size: 2mg
Dosages: The label recommends 2-6mg daily, but many users report only noticing effects when dosed at 8-12mg.
Side effects: Low liver toxicity. Some users say this is a libido killer, yet others say the exact opposite. Other users report sides of thinning hair/hair loss.
Reputation: Seemingly underdosed, methoxy-TST could be considered an underrated designer, as many users have reported some substantial gains with higher dosages.


Epistane/Havoc/Hemaguno
Innovators: IBE, RPN, Spectra Force
Nomenclature: 2a-3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol
Pill Size: 10mg or 12.5mg depending on what brand you use
Dosages: 20-50mg
Side Effects: Milder on liver and lipid levels than other methyls. Known to cause lower back and calf pumps.
Reputation: There has had some spectroscopy and compound identification issues with these products, but from personal experience with it, is still a solid product. Many users have taken this compound as a solo run for gynecomastia reduction due to it's SERM-like and anti-aromatase properties. It is also a popular compound for use with the 'pulse method' of taking orals. Users can expect to see significant gains in both strength and mass.


Pheraplex:
Innovator: Designer Supplements
Nomenclature: 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol
Pill Size: 10mg
Dosages: 10-40mg
Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profile, lower back and calf pumps, some users report aggrevation of gynecomastia with this compound.
Reputation: Solid product for bulking. Wet gains. It is a sometimes used to jumpstart an injectable cycle. This is the less androgenic isomer in the Ergomax LMG matrix.


Ergomax LMG
Innovator: ALRI
Nomenclature: 17-methyl-delta-2-etioallocholane & 17-methyl-delta-3-etioallocholane
Pill Size: 10mg
Dosages: 10-40mg
Side effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, lower back and calf pumps, may aggrevate gynecomastia.
Reputation: Again pretty solid for bulking. Users can expect similar gains as with pheraplex.


Superdrol:
Innovator: Designer Supplements
Nomenclature: 2a, 17a-dimethyl-17?-hydroxy-5a-etiocholan -3-one
Pill size: 10mg
Dosages: 10-30mg
Side Effects: liver toxicity, bad lipid profiles, hypoglycemia lower back and calf pumps, some users report agrivation of gynecomastia with this compound. From personal experience, it gives me a wicked rebound, that causes some flare-up.
Reputation: Side effects vary from mild to extremely harsh, so use caution if planning your first run. Excellent dry gains. Great for bulking or cutting. Explosive strength gains.
This is a methylated form of Drostanolone (Masteron)


Methoxy-TRN
Innovator: ALRI
Nomenclature: 17b-Methoxy-Trienbolone
Pill size: 1.5mg
Dosages: 1.5-6mg
Side effects: Affects libido (some positively some negatively), can aggrevate gynecomastia. May cause thinning hair/ hair loss. Also another progestin.
Reputation: This guy is a real hit or miss. Some users loved the stuff, while others did not notice anything from it. From personal experience, I've noticed increases in strength as well as decreases in bodyfat.


Halodrol-50
Innovator: Gaspari Nutrition
Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-1,4-diene-3,17 diol
Pill Size: 50mg
Dosages: 25-75mg
Side effects: Heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps
Reputation: Milder than superdrol or pheraplex. Modest gains in mass and strength. Most users take this as part of a cutting cycle.
This is a prosteroid of Turinabol.

Prostanozol/ Orasan-E
Innovators: ALRI, Gaspari Nutrition
Nomenclature: [3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta-tetrahydropyranol
Pill size: 25mg
Dosages: 50-150mg (Although it is not uncommon to go much higher than this)
Side effects: very few sides. Some users report thinning hair/hair loss.
Reputation: Possibly the most mild of the designers, this compound is rarely run standalone. It is often stacked with a methyl compound for a lean bulk or cut. Very mild, yet easily maintained gains.
This is a de-alkylated derivative of Stanozol (winstrol).


Finigenix Magnum
Innovators: PharmagenX
Nomenclature: Estra-4, 9-diene-3, 17-dione
Dosages: 50-75mg
Side effects: aggrevation of gynecomastia. This is a progestin (it can convert to trenbolone). Expect tren-like sides.
Reputation: Though there hasn't been much logged on this bad boy, those who've used it have liked it. This is a prohormone to Tren.

Propadrol:
Innovator: EST Nutrition
Nomenclures: 12-ethyl-3-methoxy-gona-diene &
6-17 dihydroxyetiocholone-3-ol proponate
Dosages: 1-2 caps daily
Side effects: low side effects
Reputation: User's who've taken it have reported great decreases in bodyfat, while increasing musclemass and strength. Not much data is present on this compound within this forum. NOTE: this is does not contain the same compound as Max LMG. They are close, but no cigar.


Max LMG
Innovator: ALRI
Nomenclature: 13-ethyl-3methoxygona-2, 5(10)-dien-17-one
Pill size: 25mg
Dosages: 25-135mg daily
Side effects: Can easily aggrevate gynecomastia. May be a libido killer. This is another progestin.
Reputation: A bulking compound through and through. Users can expect great recovery, and soaking WET gains.


M-1,4ADD
Innovator: unknown
Nomenclature: 17a-methyl-1,4-Androstadiene-3,17diol
Dosages: 30-90mg daily
Side effects: heptatoxicity, slight possibility to aggrevate gyno
Reputation: Great for a bulk. Somewhat wet gains, and decent strength gains. This is a prohormone of Dianabol. However, since dianabol and Boldenone are so very similar, it is believed that the actions of this prohormone are more similar to boldenone than to dianabol (methylboldenone).

1,4 AD
Innovator: Molecular Nutrition
Dosages: 300-600mg
Nomenclature: 1,4-Androstadiene-3,17-dione
Side effects: Mild
Reputation: Very weak and not very cost-efficient at the moment. This compound is often stacked with a methyl to potentiate and accelerate gains. Cycles are usually run at a MINIMUM of 4 weeks as this one takes a few weeks to 'kick in'. Slow, steady, and easily maintainable gains. This is a prohormone of Boldenone.

Promagnon-25
Innovator: Peak Performance Labs
Dosages: 25-75mg
Nomenclature:4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
Side effects: The usual sides associated with methylated compounds (heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps)
Reputation: Very similar to that of Halodrol-50, although people who've tried both seem to prefer Halodrol. For a while a lot of people were conviced that these two products were one in the same. Rest assured, they are not. This is a methyl derivative of clostebol.


Oxyguno
Innovator: Spectra Force
Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17 -methyl- etioallochol-4-ene- 17 -ol-3,11-dione
Pill Size: 7.5mg
Dosages: 7.5-22.5mg daily
Side effects: Heptatoxicity from 17a-methylation. Very low androgenic sides.
Reputation: This is a derivative of the fish androgen, 11-keto-testosterone. 17 alkylation improves oral bioavailability; however, the addition of a 4-chloro group greatly lowers the anabolic/androgenic potential of an already weak androgen. What we're left with is a steroid with an incredibly low Q factor (anabolic divided by androgenic). I would expect this to be a great addition for cutting or possibly recomp, but a poor choice for bulking or looking to gain strength.

Furaguno/ Ortasan-A
Innovators: Spectra Force / Gaspari Nutrition
Pill Size: 33mg
Nomenclature: 5a0androstano[2,3-c] furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol
Dosages: 33-99mg daily
Side Effects: very mild
Reputation: Supposedly lowers cholesterol, increases androgenic receptor activity, and does not induce any heptatoxicity. This product is too young on the market to have developed a reputation yet. Get some, log it, and let us know so I can update this compound's profile. This is a prosteroid to furazabol.

11-oxo/Adrenodione
Innovator: Anabolic Xtreme / Ergopharm
Pill Size: 150mg
Dosages: 450mg
Nomenclature: andrenosterone, 11-oxo-androstenedione, or 4-androstene-3,11,17-trione (all mean the same thing)
Side effects: Mild
Reputation: This prohormone has a great affinity for blocking conversion to cortisol. User's report great changes in body composition, namely significant fatloss. If you're looking for some mass gains, you might opt for something else.

I can advice on dosing but I do not condone it or aaahh think its the best Idea.

 

[Rebecca D]

Wow, I wanted information but this is wonderful. I've done some research on some of these but this definately gives me something to start with. As I said before, I have no plans to do anything soon, but I would like to try something next fall. Maybe the Furazadrol again or maybe something a little stronger. I appreciate the information.
One question, if you had a girlfriend/wife in my situation what would you recommend. I know it might not be what I want to hear but I want as many informed opinions as possible.

Thanks again,

Rebecca D

 

[RottenWillow]

Wow, I wanted information but this is wonderful. I've done some research on some of these but this definately gives me something to start with. As I said before, I have no plans to do anything soon, but I would like to try something next fall. Maybe the Furazadrol again or maybe something a little stronger. I appreciate the information.
One question, if you had a girlfriend/wife in my situation what would you recommend. I know it might not be what I want to hear but I want as many informed opinions as possible.

Thanks again,

Rebecca D

Rebecca, I might suggest Dermacrine. The sponsor won't recommend it for women, but I used it right after it was released and holy shiznit I felt great, made nice gains, and only sides was some slight, temporary backne. I think I noticed someone say they'd given you a temp plat, so you can search for my Dermacrine thread from '07 IIRC and read about my experiences as I'd blogged them.

 

[slat1]

Anyone catch any of the news shows on X-treme Tren? I saw them a few times while at the gym but couldn't hear it. It is the new steroid of choice for teens I guess.
This is a great thread to remind everyone diet it number one when it comes to results. What you get out of anyone depends on what you fuel your body with. You should know what to eat, when to eat it, how much to eat and why you are eating it.
I have worked out with a few IFBB Pro womens BBers who have never used more then Anavar and Clen.
On the flip side I have judged women who have used test, deca, insulin etc who compete in figure.
The bottom line is what you are willing to risk and how much work you are willing to put in.

 

[slat1]

I am sorry babe but I would not wish beastdrol on a woman.

+1
Got to love someone who keeps other peoples health and welfare in mind over lining their pocket.
Telling it like it is as usual!

 

[needtogetaas]

Rebecca, I might suggest Dermacrine. The sponsor won't recommend it for women, but I used it right after it was released and holy shiznit I felt great, made nice gains, and only sides was some slight, temporary backne. I think I noticed someone say they'd given you a temp plat, so you can search for my Dermacrine thread from '07 IIRC and read about my experiences as I'd blogged them.

I think this is one of the better choices. Along with some of the other products PP has this can be a good thing. I would speak with willow she has some good experence with the product. You can get with me for a discount if its something you ever make the choice to do.

 

[Rebecca D]

needto,

Thanks again for all the info. I am very interested in the dermacrine but should I wait to use it? (I just completed a cycle of Bold 200 at the end of Feb.) Is it a product you cycle or is it okay to use year round?

Rebecca d

 

[bandit98]

I heard bout the xtreme tren report on CBS news. You can google it up and watch it. They actually did 2 reports on it. Also they sent some to the lab and the doctor who tested it said its not a supplement, but an out and out steroid. He did not however confirm what was in it. Said it was very very close to the real steroid Trenbolone tho.
I am still running the xtreme tren off and on, usually 4 weeks on, 4-8 weeks off. am also running it at 2 caps day. Guess what, I am still a woman, no androgenic sides visible either. Furazadrol, ran it. Its weak, You would have to run it at at least 2-3 caps day, the guys run it lot higher than that which makes it very cost ineffective. I ran H-drol and loved it, ran it at 50mg day, no sides, good lean gains, fat loss, incredible pumps.
Ok, this should shock all, have been running xtreme tren stacked with 1 cap of M-drol, knockoff of Superdrol. Its awesome, its my second cycle, and my little 13.25" biceps are now 15" when pumped after an awesome workout. Still sound like a woman, look like a woman, and get lots and lots of compliments.
SO..........guys on here are right, things effect different people differently. Start small, work your way up. Keep diet in check, cardio, eat right, lift right, you can get big.

 

[slat1]

I heard bout the xtreme tren report on CBS news. You can google it up and watch it. They actually did 2 reports on it. Also they sent some to the lab and the doctor who tested it said its not a supplement, but an out and out steroid. He did not however confirm what was in it. Said it was very very close to the real steroid Trenbolone tho.
I am still running the xtreme tren off and on, usually 4 weeks on, 4-8 weeks off. am also running it at 2 caps day. Guess what, I am still a woman, no androgenic sides visible either. Furazadrol, ran it. Its weak, You would have to run it at at least 2-3 caps day, the guys run it lot higher than that which makes it very cost ineffective. I ran H-drol and loved it, ran it at 50mg day, no sides, good lean gains, fat loss, incredible pumps.
Ok, this should shock all, have been running xtreme tren stacked with 1 cap of M-drol, knockoff of Superdrol. Its awesome, its my second cycle, and my little 13.25" biceps are now 15" when pumped after an awesome workout. Still sound like a woman, look like a woman, and get lots and lots of compliments.
SO..........guys on here are right, things effect different people differently. Start small, work your way up. Keep diet in check, cardio, eat right, lift right, you can get big.

I hope you reach all of your goals safely. Keep us posted on your progress.

 

[needtogetaas]

I heard bout the xtreme tren report on CBS news. You can google it up and watch it. They actually did 2 reports on it. Also they sent some to the lab and the doctor who tested it said its not a supplement, but an out and out steroid. He did not however confirm what was in it. Said it was very very close to the real steroid Trenbolone tho.
I am still running the xtreme tren off and on, usually 4 weeks on, 4-8 weeks off. am also running it at 2 caps day. Guess what, I am still a woman, no androgenic sides visible either. Furazadrol, ran it. Its weak, You would have to run it at at least 2-3 caps day, the guys run it lot higher than that which makes it very cost ineffective. I ran H-drol and loved it, ran it at 50mg day, no sides, good lean gains, fat loss, incredible pumps.
Ok, this should shock all, have been running xtreme tren stacked with 1 cap of M-drol, knockoff of Superdrol. Its awesome, its my second cycle, and my little 13.25" biceps are now 15" when pumped after an awesome workout. Still sound like a woman, look like a woman, and get lots and lots of compliments.
SO..........guys on here are right, things effect different people differently. Start small, work your way up. Keep diet in check, cardio, eat right, lift right, you can get big.

yes I sell tren-tfo same thing as extream tren only 50 cheaper.

Sell the other products too. As some one who sells them and knows about them I do not push them on woman and never would.