ESTROGEN 101 Before you use anything, read this.

[Nelson Montana]

Look man, im not going to get into a pissing match...but I want you to look at what you wrote:

For natties in-between cycles; "Post Cycle" along with "CytogenX" or "Dermacrine" are more than enough to keep excess estrogen at bay.

For those on HRT: 1/4 mg of a-dex 3X's a week plus low dose CytogenX, Dermacrine or Post Cycle.

You WROTE THAT. You have NO IDEA whatsoever if its "more than enough" to keep estrogen at bay in between cycles, since its only BEEN OUT a month.
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I'M GOING TO EXPLAIN THIS ONE MORE TIME. IF THEN YOU DON'T GET IT, YOU'RE JUST DENSE. I BELIEVE THAT "POST-CYCLE" IS ENOUGH TO KEEP ESTRO AT BAY. I WAS THROWING PROPS TO ANTHONY'S PRODUCT IN CASE YOU WANTED TO MIX THE TWO -- YES, IT WOULD BE MORE THAN ENOUGH.

ACTUALLY DERMACRINE WOULD BE REDUNDANT (MORE THAN ENOUGH) IN REGARD TO THE CHRYSIN SO THE CYTO MIGHT BE THE BETTER CHOICE. BUT YOU'RE TWISTING IT ALL DUDE. YOU'RE BUSTING FOR PROMOTING SOMETHING THAT HAS SOME GOOD INGREDIENTS AND HAS GOTTEN GOOD FEEDBACK AND I DON'T MAKE ANY MONEY OFF OF. THAT'S IDIOTIC. THE POINT IS, NATURAL SUPPS CAN WORK. BUT I FEEL 6 -OXO AND AIFM IS GARBAGE AND I STAND BY THAT STATEMENT.


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Ive given you Karma this week on other things, because you have good ideas and posts, but this was not one of them.

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GEEZ, SORRY DUDE. SO YOU GIVE ME RED BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH ONE POST ?

AND BY THE WAY, I CHECKED MY KARMA AND YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN ME ANY GREEN, SO... WTF?

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[lartinos]

Even though I disagree with Nelson too, his iconoclastic ideas often have SOME but not alot of truth. I like how he stirs this up a little.

 

[medrep]

is this really nelson montana?

do I have to pull off the scoobie doo mask to real another face?

exactly. everyone who used to give advise here was asked to leave. then magically all these old "gurus" come back? Anyone with admin powers here can make up a username give it 2500 posts and 2million karma and say "hey we have new gurus now". This place has become a joke

 

[lartinos]

aifm is not garbage BTW Nelson, I happen to love that stuff. At a certain point Nelsons threads should probably be locked, not that I dislike him but I just don't like when the pissing matches start. Natural supps can work IMO, but they shouldn't be the basis of your PCT.

 

[odoyal rulez]

wow man you're right, i gave the Karma to Co-B man for bumping your old biceps thread. My apologies.

No matter what you post after this...you are still wrong. Anyone reading this will see my point and realize the same thing, so do yourself a favor and edit your original post.

 

[chimera83]

It seems to me that this board once supported and recommend all products from the AF store, but now things like AIMF are said to be garbage. All of a sudden there is a new company with a new line of products which are being pushed. What happens next, will we be told that other sponsers such as AG guys are crap too. Im not saying that the new products dont work (I have not tried them) but they have only been around for a short time, while AIMF was around for a long time, and what happens when this board changes sponser in a few years, will they also bash the products which they are now recommending?

 

[bigrand]

LOL, your supplement line better than pharmacutical AIs.........give me a break. Bet you have zero studies on those supps.

 

[Nelson Montana]

And so it begins. The small minds come out. As soon as they hear something that makes them think a little they start yelling "Lock the thread! Ban him! " As soon as one twirp gets away with it, the rest of the twirps join in.

Grow the f*ck up. Have some fun. Geezuzfuckingchrist.


First of all, anyone who knows my style would know it ain't easy to copy. And why would EF use my name without my aknowledgement? Damn, you guys are paranoid.

Listen up.

When I was here I got ganged on by some mods who abused their authority. Anyone remeber Fonz? He was a self proclaimed genius. Where is he now? Nowhere. Because he's a nobody. But damn, a lot of people hung on his every word.

Remember Juice Authority? He harrassed me constantly. Beratted me for my views on Clomid then went crying to the board when it didn't work for him. Took 2000mgs a week a looked like he didn't work out. He was a message board god. Where's he? Nowhere. He never was -- only here.

Macro and to a lesser degree Ulter had some knowledge and were given a lot of leeway, but they abused it. They thought they owned the boards and found out the hard way that wasn't the case. They hyped their crappy supps endlessly because they could get away with it. Let's face it, the board needs advertising dollars to survive. Everyone who doesn't live in their mothers basement know that. But enough was enough.

I agreed to come back if it was an even playing field and now it is. There's some stuff sold here that I don't think is great, but maybe someone else does. Ulter and macro just bashed the competition. Greedy dicks.

Guys like Anthony Roberts make macro and ulter look like beginners.

When did Ulter post an exercise routine that helped the members? Or recommend something that didn't make him money?

If macro was so smart how come he's never been published?

They did however go into other peoples posts and re-write them. Unethical. Unacceptable. They had to go.

This board has some great people. But there are a few fools who don't recognize a good thing when they see it. Listen and learn from the vets -- the real ones.


It's good to be back.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

exactly. everyone who used to give advise here was asked to leave. then magically all these old "gurus" come back? Anyone with admin powers here can make up a username give it 2500 posts and 2million karma and say "hey we have new gurus now". This place has become a joke

Who are the "old gurus" that came back?? As far as I can tell Nelson is the only person who has "come back" ...

If this place has become a joke then by all means go find another forum that suits you better! nobody is forcing to post here.



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[Max102]

I left this board for a few months because I couldn't take anymore of Ulter and Macro. Every morning there was 3 or 4 old posts bumped by Macro that were 3 or more years old and nobody complained. When I posted my results I had with YES (which is total garbage and a waste of money) and AIFM which all it did was me is give blisters that lasted for 3 months I get pm's from them asking what my problem is with them. I just couldn't believe how many people fell into there marketing crap. You couldn't say one thing bad about them on here or you would get bombed it was pathetic. As for Ulter and his 1000mg a week of test for your first cycle is just insane to even suggest such a dose..but people were backing him..umbelievable!!!! I just hope the sponsors now dont do what Ulter and Macro did on here because it will just kill this board again...The reason I'm red is because I disagreed with with Macro.