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ESTROGEN 101 Before you use anything, read this.

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odoyal rulez said:
I refuse to believe a word of it based solely on the fact you plugged two products, one of which has been out only a month, and you've never used. Therefore to me your credibility means nothing.

There was way too much of that shit w/ the AF store.
Plug plug plug plug and then plug some more.
 
I think this is an excellent post and from my small expierience spot on. Now I havnt been on this forum months and i dont even know if macro or Utler even post here anymore but i am glad that an actual guru called BS on AIFM. I bought in to the whole AIFM thing becuase everyone was brainwashed by it. Bought 2 bottles and now there somewhere in my closet along with some of the other garbage i bought from anafit. AIFM IS COMPLETE GARBAGE along with nova... Sorry just had to vent. Its great to have a real guru on the forums.
 
odoyal rulez said:
therss no tough guy teenage message board warrior here, Im just stating facts man. Dont get your panties in a bunch. When you came back, a lot of people that people look up to, endorsed and welcomed you. ergo, please dont start plugging shit you havent used, that makes you look bad, them look bad, and the product look bad.

We all know Demacrine is the next big thing, and a lot of us will prolly buy it and make our own findings...but its been out for a month, give it a rest already.


A dumb post. I've mentioned Dermacrine only once, and again, I have no affilation with them. What part of that don't you understand?

I personally don't think it's right to answer a post with a flat out endorsement. I don't do that. Some do. I don't. This was a post with info on using anti-e's that a lot of people could use and I included natural supps because I believe in them.

And by the way, Protein Factory could just as easily sell a ton of crap that people will buy but I will not endorse anything that I don't believe is good.

Got it?
 
Look man, im not going to get into a pissing match...but I want you to look at what you wrote:

For natties in-between cycles; "Post Cycle" along with "CytogenX" or "Dermacrine" are more than enough to keep excess estrogen at bay.

For those on HRT: 1/4 mg of a-dex 3X's a week plus low dose CytogenX, Dermacrine or Post Cycle.


You WROTE THAT. You have NO IDEA whatsoever if its "more than enough" to keep estrogen at bay in between cycles, since its only BEEN OUT a month. And you have NEVER PERSONALLLY used it. I am NOT disagreeing with ANYTHING you said, but I am telling you that you make yourself look like an ass, and the people who support you, when you start PLUGGING products you havent used.

Ive given you Karma this week on other things, because you have good ideas and posts, but this was not one of them.
 
i agree with odoyal rulez and there's not much you can say to make it better Nelson other than retracting that entire paragraph.
 
cant expect a person to stand in wal mart in a walmart tshirt and tell you to go shop and target.... it just is not gonna happen...

but I to question the effects of transdermal studies done with chrysin do they exist?
I read recently that chyrsin was garbage compared to arimidex and aromasin..

what dose of chrysin is needed transdermal to make a effect?
how much does decramine contian?
 
jamesG said:
I criticise your statements, you attack me. Without answering any of the criticisms.
sorry, I wont waste my time with someone like you. If people beleive your nonsense then that is their loss.

I could provide studies for all the above, though anyone can search pubmed and find the same. You made the claims, YOU back them up. I am not an expert, but it seems that even so, I know more than you.

have a nice day, internet tough-guy and keyboard guru.

I totally agree with you. People will say what ever they want and pass it out as expert advice. Who ever listens to shit like that better get ready for some shitty as results. Then they can't say they weren't forwarned.
 
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