EQ Questions...

[blut wump]

To understand the idea behind frontloading, you need to have some idea of half-life decay and how your blood levels vary through the course of your cycle. Without frontloading, your levels climb over the first few injections (dependent on half-life and dosing schedule) until they reach a stable cycle that repeats from injection to injection. The idea of front-loading is to reach that stable cycle sooner rather than later.

The advantage is that you benefit from higher blood levels sooner. The disadvantage is that your body is pushed into the deep end sooner without time to adjust. The latter may not matter to some bodies.

Enter a simple cycle over at PCT Calculator. It should help you better understand what's happening in a non-frontloaded situation. Frontloading just gets you to the top part of the curve sooner.

 

[GymIntensity]

Thanks for the quick replies....

Im a little confused about frontloading though......with EQ, would I just make the 1st few weeks at a gram/week and then go back down to 500/week?

If im going to stick with 500-600/week throughout cycle, then what dose and for how long would you suggest I front load?

thanks again

R1..

i'm not really sure about the frontloading, I didn't do it so therefore I probably wouldn't do it on a second cycle. by week 3 or 4, yes you can see some vascularity and hunger issues. For me, week 10 is when my results started being "noticeable". About week 9 through 12 is when I gained the most weight. only about 5 lbs through week 9 , and by week 12 had 10 more. Also, I ran it at 400mg per week. I'm going to go about 14 weeks. I wouldn't go less. Also I would throw the winny in at 6 weeks not 4, and I would overlap the EQ by 2 weeks. So after your last week of EQ, you would still have 2 weeks left of winny to run while the EQ would still be in your blood. Just my opinion on how I have been running it. You really have to tweak your cycles and adjust them to suit your goals.

 

[immortalis]

I've never front loaded EQ.

In regards to the side-effects associated with EQ (Anxiety, panic attacks etc), I have found that most only typically experience those sides with extremly high doses in excess of 1g per week. As always, everyones body is different so you may or may not experience the possible side effects regardless of the dosage you decide to go with.

I ran EQ at 800mg a week for about 15 weeks. After the 15th week, I lowered the dosage down to 600mg and actually saw better results at this dosage than at 800.

I noticed my hunger increasing around week 5.

I have only ran EQ in longer cycles in excess of 20 weeks.

I have only used EQ when running a cutting cycle, however with the increased hunger effects and with the long duration of my typical cutting cycles burning me out so bad during the last part of my cycle, I think I am going to give EQ a run during my next bulker to see if the increase in appetite will help me stack on some lean pounds easier than normal.

I only have experience with LSP EQ.


(The following is not fact, just based on what I have read... I could be incorrect on this)
The only negative that I can see in regards to the duration EQ supposedly "needs" to be ran, is that due to the ester, I have read that if running Test with it (I always have test in my cycles), that you should run the Test 1 week longer than the EQ so that they clear relatively at the same time and make it easier to go into PCT. However I dont like running Test for 16+ weeks really.


Any more-experienced EQ-vets out there that can chime in and correct any mis-information that I might have in regards to this compound? Thanks bros

 

[mikefear]

bump that AIFM up to 2-3 pumps a day with the dbol + test.

 

[jackedcpa]

bump that AIFM up to 2-3 pumps a day with the dbol + test.

mikefear: yo, i see you r from orlando, i just moved outta there after 5 years @ucf. i worked at roxy forever and train at world's in oviedo, where in o-town do you train?

 

[GymIntensity]

This reminds me since immortalis brought up the panic attacks/anxiety issue. I found that week 4 through about 8 I had random panic attacks and thought I was going to quit breathing. Since about week 9 though I haven't experienced any attacks whatsoever. I assume my body got used to them. Also about week 6 or 7, it was very strange, my jaw would pop when I chew, and at random times it felt like my jaw was locked up like I had been crowhopped in the side of the jawbone. Any other bros had these jaw problems on EQ?

I've never front loaded EQ.

In regards to the side-effects associated with EQ (Anxiety, panic attacks etc), I have found that most only typically experience those sides with extremly high doses in excess of 1g per week. As always, everyones body is different so you may or may not experience the possible side effects regardless of the dosage you decide to go with.

I ran EQ at 800mg a week for about 15 weeks. After the 15th week, I lowered the dosage down to 600mg and actually saw better results at this dosage than at 800.

I noticed my hunger increasing around week 5.

I have only ran EQ in longer cycles in excess of 20 weeks.

I have only used EQ when running a cutting cycle, however with the increased hunger effects and with the long duration of my typical cutting cycles burning me out so bad during the last part of my cycle, I think I am going to give EQ a run during my next bulker to see if the increase in appetite will help me stack on some lean pounds easier than normal.

I only have experience with LSP EQ.


(The following is not fact, just based on what I have read... I could be incorrect on this)
The only negative that I can see in regards to the duration EQ supposedly "needs" to be ran, is that due to the ester, I have read that if running Test with it (I always have test in my cycles), that you should run the Test 1 week longer than the EQ so that they clear relatively at the same time and make it easier to go into PCT. However I dont like running Test for 16+ weeks really.


Any more-experienced EQ-vets out there that can chime in and correct any mis-information that I might have in regards to this compound? Thanks bros

 

[Triple J]

i prefer long runs at low doses when it comes to eq

 

[ALIN]

Ok so I have heard alot of confilcting information regarding EQ...
This is my 1st run with EQ....running this:

Wks 1 - 3 Naposim Dbal @ 30/day
Wks 1 – 12, Test E @ 500/week
Wks 1 – 12, EQ @ 500/week
Wks 9 – 12, Winstrol @ 50/day
Wks 1 -12, AIFM @ 1 pump/day

PCT of nolvadex, diet in check

I have heard and read many times that EQ takes about 6-8 weeks to fully kick in...from peoples personal experience is that accurate?
Also have heard that you should run the EQ for more like 16 weeks to really get the benefits from it. Watcha think?

Others from here have mentioned on occasion to frontload the EQ...is there any truth to that? I cant really see why frontloading any long ester will yield faster gains...It still takes as long for the ester to dislove in the muscle.
Is frontloading more like a myth?

Last but not least, how often should you shoot the EQ?
E3D with the test often enough?

thanks bros,

R1....

Should see good results with EQ in a 10-16 wk cycle.

 

[BuddaBill]

I've decided to go ahead and run this EQ for 26 weeks and see what happens.

Holy Crap!!! 26 weeks!!
Please tell me that's a typo...

 

[chazk]

i'm on eq week 9 at 600mg a week . I am also running a small dose of test at 125mg a week along with 150mg of deca for my elbow pains.kicked it off with winstrol 50mg ed for the first 6 weeks

I can say this for sure that eq did give me anxiety in around week 3 but by week 4 it was over plus it made it hard for me to sleep so that also lead to the bitchy restless anxiety jerk that i became for a week or so. But the side effects as far as water retention are almost next to none if you eat clean.

weight gains were not that great but still chartable gained 6 lbs by week 3 then gains slowed but over all body compsition has changed dramatically so i am burning fat and building muscle at tha same time so if i would have to guess i put on 11 soild lbs of muscle with no bloating or puffy faces look. I look lean and mean wich is exactly what I was wanting .

I have to stay toned and acne free .I am getting married in decemver and we are taking pics last thing i want hanging on my parents wall is a roided out puffy face block headed dbol freak. if you havent guessed d-bol ,anadrol and test at over 200mg a week makes my head get bigger due to jaw muscles just over developing neck getting bigger and giving me a toad look so those days are over, for here on out its eq,deca,winnie.primo and anavar with little bit of test to keep my agression