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Enforcing Sharia at UC-Irvine

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Stefka said:
It is about balancing interests.
This has almost no impact on the male student body.
It is a very good thing for the Muslim women who want to work out.
The benefits to the minority greatly outweigh the detriments to the majority.

There was a subset of students who could not use school facilities due to religious beliefs. Harvard made reasonable accommodations for them.

There is nothing new about making reasonable accommodations.

adj. (prĭ-sēd'nt, prĕs'ĭ-dənt)

An act or instance that may be used as an example in dealing with subsequent similar instances.

This isnt about the accomodations. Im sure everyone agrees that this isnt ruining the lives of anybody.

This is about the precedent it sets. An applicable comparison would be allowing a woman to take her driver's license photo wearing a hajib (that covers her face).
 
75th said:
adj. (prĭ-sēd'nt, prĕs'ĭ-dənt)

An act or instance that may be used as an example in dealing with subsequent similar instances.

This isnt about the accomodations. Im sure everyone agrees that this isnt ruining the lives of anybody.

This is about the precedent it sets. An applicable comparison would be allowing a woman to take her driver's license photo wearing a hajib (that covers her face).

Dude, I'm a law student - I live and breathe precedent.
Allow me to clarify...
Making reasonable accommodations for religions groups is not setting new precedent.
Remember the SATs? Jewish students were allowed to take them on an alternate date as the Jewish Sabbath is a Saturday and all of us gentiles took them on a Saturday. No big deal - right?

Taking a DL pic with the hajib is against the point of an identification photo, so obviously the detriments outweigh the benefits.

Closing one of 3 gyms for 2 hours is a reasonable accommodation.
 
redsamurai said:
From what I read, they didn't allow the speech to be videotaped right? Was that all or was there more?

And yeah, the assault should be handled like anyone else, and the harrassement of the jewish girl would get them a sit down with me if I was the town police chief. As far as I'd be concerned, they should provide a bodyguard for her because anything that happened to her I'd basically just pin on them right away and drag them off to pound me in the ass penitentiary. They'd be gettin some guantanamo cock meat sandwhich....:lmao: (harold and kumar reference)


You should re read. They can't stop filming, the school admin tried though.

They assaulted a preacher, a woman and a student journalist. Nothing was done about any of it.

The right to peaceably assemble is protected as well but, blocking and shutting down a walkway while chanting anti-jewish statements isn't peaceful.
 
mountain muscle said:
You should re read. They can't stop filming, the school admin tried though.

They assaulted a preacher, a woman and a student journalist. Nothing was done about any of it.

The right to peaceably assemble is protected as well but, blocking and shutting down a walkway while chanting anti-jewish statements isn't peaceful.

I'm not saying lines werent crossed.......but the article was pretty vague about the supposed "assaults". The priest got "run into"?? what does that mean? They tried to pick a fight with one of the student journalists........again, somebody needs to have a sit down with these guys..........but let's put things in perspective. What they did to the woman though is profoundly unacceptable though..........there would be hell to pay if that was my campus.
 
75th said:
adj. (prĭ-sēd'nt, prĕs'ĭ-dənt)

An act or instance that may be used as an example in dealing with subsequent similar instances.

And I'm pretty sure "precedent" is a noun in the way that you were using it.
 
being politically correct is no longer the "in" thing to do.
We've politically corrected ourselves right in the toilet.

I'm all for humans rights and freedoms, but not where religion is involved.,
Trust me, in the next 50 years, the mother tongue of North America will be Arabic.
At some point we need to protect our own culture.

If Muslim girls want gym time, then they can go rent a gym and do what they need.
I don't think any religion should get special treatment.
 
CMarc said:
That's a relief :rolleyes:

I don't have a problem with allowing extremists to speak at our universities.

My problem is when they enjoy our rights to free speech and then adopt a Middle East style of repress any dissenting viewpoints here in the West. They seem to be the only ones being protected.
+1

If I want to burn a US flag, I have the right to do so. If I want to draw a picture of Mohammad and then piss on it and then burn it, then I have the right to do so.
 
mountain muscle said:
I find this interesting...


Enforcing Sharia at UC-Irvine

In "UC Irvine Still Enforcing Sharia Law" by Jonathan Constantine Movroydis and Reut Cohen at Pajamas Media, May 22, we see how dhimmi university administrators allow Muslim students to enforce Sharia provisions (no filming of the "sisters") on the campus of a public university:

...The featured speaker last Thursday, May 15, was Amir Abdel Malik-Ali, a radical imam from Oakland who is all too familiar to UCI students. Malik-Ali frequently engages in anti-Western rhetoric and is a vocal supporter of terrorist groups. Not only has he praised Hamas, Hezbollah, and the mujahadeen in Afghanistan as “Islamic resistance” movements struggling against Western “oppressors,” he has called any scrutiny of these terror groups mere “propaganda.” Following Ali’s speeches to UCI’s MSU, the audiences of keffiyah-wearing Muslim students always repetitively recite the battle cry “Takbir! Allahu Akbar!” This year’s audience was no different.

While his rhetoric is lurid and apocalyptic, Malik-Ali’s speech is protected under the First Amendment. What’s alarming is the administration’s willingness to enforce the MSU’s prerogatives on other students who attend their events — hence the application of Sharia law where the Bill of Rights is applicable. For example, while videotaping Malik-Ali’s speech, we were confronted by a school administrator. Dean of Student Services Sally Peterson told us that, on behalf of the male students, we would have to stop filming the female activists, or as she called them “the sisters.” Aware of our rights, we refused her orders and continued covering the event.

As we continued our coverage of the festivities, members of the MSU ultimately decided to enforce what appears to be their own principle of just retribution. After Thursday’s event, the MSU walked up and down the main campus road chanting anti-Israel slogans and blocking off the entire walkway for several minutes while police and administrators stood by idly.

A male individual, who was filming the hateful procession, had at least three Muslim males charge at him for daring to film as the females from the group walked past. One of the males, a student named Yasser Ahmed who purportedly threw a cinderblock at an FBI vehicle last year, said to the cameraman: “You wanna get jacked! We can go get jacked right now! C’mon Emanuel, we’ve learned a lot about you let’s go! Lets go get jacked, Lets go get jacked!”

The UCI police department treated this incident unprofessionally and took no action. The student journalist gave his statement to a UCI police officer and explained how he was assaulted. The officer then went to take statements from the males MSU members. The police would not, however, take statements from those who witnessed the assault against the student journalist. After the police officer took statements, he told the student journalist that one of the males who charged at him had apologized and that nothing more could be done.

A Christian preacher on campus, Michael Venyah, also had his rights violated last Thursday. This preacher, who believes that all people must accept Jesus in order to get into heaven, began preaching about the prophet Mohammad and his crimes. Evidently, MSU members didn’t like hearing what he had to say and opted for charging and running into him. This was clearly an incident of assault. The cops present did nothing, and Dean of Judicial Affairs Edgar Dormitorio suggested that Mr. Venyah should leave.

Another case of MSU’s vigilantism occurred when a young Jewish female was followed back to her car and surrounded by six members of the MSU. A community member who witnessed the harassment also had her civil rights violated when the Muslim students noticed her. As UC Irvine police offers stood idly by, the Muslim students proceeded to situate themselves on the hood of her car in order to photograph her face, her vehicle identification number, and her license plate. When she later called the police department for answers, they justified the criminal behavior as the culmination of a tit for tat ethnic squabble. Put simply, they justified the need for Muslim students to “vent,” as they were just getting back at the Jews.

One group at UC Irvine has monopolized freedom of speech and expression. MSU organizers have taken it upon themselves to restrict the freedoms of others on the university campus and have managed to avoid significant criticism from the administration. Conversely, those who voice concern over MSU’s actions are depicted as stirring up trouble....


are we supposed to just believe this crock of shit story?

lool
 
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