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Enforcing Sharia at UC-Irvine

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mountain muscle said:
Can the students in wheel chairs decide when to get out of them at any time?
For many people, going against their religion would be totally inconceivable.
Should Harvard really ask these women to forsake their religion?
Ok ladies, your choice - religion or health.

mountain muscle said:
Do wheelchair ramps interfere at all with any other student's?
The money could have been spent benefiting the majority, not the handicapped minority.
 
Stefka said:
For many people, going against their religion would be totally inconceivable.
Should Harvard really ask these women to forsake their religion?
Ok ladies, your choice - religion or health.

Yes, they should ask them to forsake their religion. Relgion should be kept at home in private.
 
Stefka said:
For many people, going against their religion would be totally inconceivable.
Should Harvard really ask these women to forsake their religion?
Ok ladies, your choice - religion or health.


The money could have been spent benefiting the majority, not the handicapped minority.


They have a choice to go elsewhere to work out as I mentioned before. Nobody said anything about forsaking their religion.

And are you serious about wheelchair ramps? So they should break the law instead of installing them?

Why not also allow muslims a private place to pray 5 times a day. Doesn't the koran encourage modesty, not require it? These women are making a choice because of their beliefs. The university should not have to cater to them.
 
redsamurai said:
If I remember this story right, it's at a relatively "down time" when nobody really works out. "In this case"........I don't see the big deal. I put my foot down when these fuckers dont' want to take their birka's off to show their face for photo ID purposes. That really grinds my gears!! That's the kind of line I"m talking about........we can all be reasonable and pragmatic and let people have some extra rope in certain cases...........but there are times when you gotta pull that rope. And being able to vote with a potato sack over your head is bullshit.......for instance.

I think if I remember correctly also, there weren't very many of those who were protesting in order to get this special "muslim ladies only" time who were actually USING the gym during those times. Seems like they just wanted to bitch about it. Now they have it and low and behold the majority don't give a shit about using it. Figures.
 
mountain muscle said:
Also, does Harvard receive any sort of govt. funding? :)


for research grants, but the actually school itself is privately funded. So it's a school decision. They shouldn't be "REQUIRED" to acquiesce in this case, but they chose to themselves........and imo, it's a good call. They give up very little and gain alot.........it's a good win for them.
 
mountain muscle said:
They have a choice to go elsewhere to work out as I mentioned before. Nobody said anything about forsaking their religion.

And are you serious about wheelchair ramps? So they should break the law instead of installing them?

Why not also allow muslims a private place to pray 5 times a day. Doesn't the koran encourage modesty, not require it? These women are making a choice because of their beliefs. The university should not have to cater to them.

Ok, so take the gym fees out of the tuition.
But hey, instead of fucking with the tuition wouldn't it just be easier to give these women 2 hours of gym time at one of the three Harvard gyms?

When I was an undergrad I could not afford a separate gym. It was the school gym or nothing. I'm sure it is the same for many of these women.

My muslim friends just prayed in their dorm rooms five times a day, so that was never a point of contention.
 
redsamurai said:
for research grants, but the actually school itself is privately funded. So it's a school decision. They shouldn't be "REQUIRED" to acquiesce in this case, but they chose to themselves........and imo, it's a good call. They give up very little and gain alot.........it's a good win for them.


What do they gain?
 
Stefka said:
Ok, so take the gym fees out of the tuition.
But hey, instead of fucking with the tuition wouldn't it just be easier to give these women 2 hours of gym time at one of the three Harvard gyms?

When I was an undergrad I could not afford a separate gym. It was the school gym or nothing. I'm sure it is the same for many of these women.

My muslim friends just prayed in their dorm rooms five times a day, so that was never a point of contention.


Easier? Yes. But you are completly ignoring the precedent it sets.
 
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