Drop sets..

[al420]

ok... like i said above... hit your one rep max... example... a 405 deadlift... Who told you my one rep max??? now because its your max, or very close to your max... you cant get a second rep... so you immediately drop down to say, 365... which you normaly get for 3, but because you just hit 405... now you only get 2... then drop down to 350 and barely squeeze out two more... HOW THE FUCK IS THIS NOT PUSHING THE ENVELOPE?? It is, point taken no fluff here at all... simply going with your max and punishing yourself with weights that are still decently heavy...
i have puked doing this on two occasions... on squats both times...
if you had no "gas in the tank" then you'd better be lying crippled on the floor... because often when i'm done with squats... my legs collapse and i thank myself for using the safety catch bars...now that is failure!youre telling me that after your last 5x set that you could not possibly pick up another weight, be it the bar or less, and do one rep?... because then... and only then have you truly maxed yourself out...

I am a firm believer in adding weight to the bar, not taking it off. I do agree w/ what you wrote. I guess I view drop sets as another BS fad brough on by the muscle mags and the AF'r workouts. I see morons in my gym doing drop sets daily - they are small and weak for the most part. I know it is more about diet and other things, but for me to progress in weights from week to week I have to watch volume - and if I am doing 20's then I will miss a lift the following week.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

you should try some of the bulgarian methods

 

[theprofessor]

I am a firm believer in adding weight to the bar, not taking it off. I do agree w/ what you wrote. I guess I view drop sets as another BS fad brough on by the muscle mags and the AF'r workouts. I see morons in my gym doing drop sets daily - they are small and weak for the most part. I know it is more about diet and other things, but for me to progress in weights from week to week I have to watch volume - and if I am doing 20's then I will miss a lift the following week.

heh... 405 is my one rep dead max as well... almost had 410 but was just shy the last few inches...
i usualy use this drop technique for my last set of an exersise... it beats the fuck out of you...
...last time i went moderately heavy i ended up pulling 225 for 22 reps... seemed like more of a cardio workout... so ive been keeping the weight heavy and doing great... a year ago i was deading 225 for 5...
the reason people fall for that super high rep drop set is because it does engourge the muscle with blood... and makes it look all swole... but its realy nothing you cant achieve with 5x5... it just may take a better mind-muscle connection imo...

 

[silver_shadow]

you should try some of the bulgarian methods

throw us some links bro.

 

[steelmass]

spoken like a true powerlifter..

the pump is just as important as the weight, in some cases more so, when it comes to bodybuilding.

drop sets are a training variant, one that can produce results. But its just one variant.

Cutler, Cormier, etc.. have an entire book about "The Pump" - pretty sure its important in bodybuilding.

 

[silver_shadow]

Cutler, Cormier, etc.. have an entire book about "The Pump" - pretty sure its important in bodybuilding.

absolutely... when combined with boatloads of gear

 

[mikefear]

heh... 405 is my one rep dead max as well... almost had 410 but was just shy the last few inches...
i usualy use this drop technique for my last set of an exersise... it beats the fuck out of you...
...last time i went moderately heavy i ended up pulling 225 for 22 reps... seemed like more of a cardio workout... so ive been keeping the weight heavy and doing great... a year ago i was deading 225 for 5...
the reason people fall for that super high rep drop set is because it does engourge the muscle with blood... and makes it look all swole... but its realy nothing you cant achieve with 5x5... it just may take a better mind-muscle connection imo...

That's where your wrong.. 5x5 is great for strength because it helps to train the CNS, but is not nearly as effective for hypertrophy when compared to a 4x10/3x8/3x10 type workout.

 

[SgtSlaughter]

That's where your wrong.. 5x5 is great for strength because it helps to train the CNS, but is not nearly as effective for hypertrophy when compared to a 4x10/3x8/3x10 type workout.

proof?

 

[al420]

Cutler, Cormier, etc.. have an entire book about "The Pump" - pretty sure its important in bodybuilding.

After watching Cutlers videos I am supprised he can write a sentence much less a book

I am not trying to hate here at all - I just believe firmly in adding weight to the bar - not dropping any - and I get my pumps from Dbol anyway........

BTW - your stats are sick.

 

[al420]

proof?

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