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Does anybody work in trades? (welding, construction, mechanic, etc...)
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themondtster
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Pipefitter, welder, equipment operator. Now I'm a plant operator.
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if gai that would count for twice the job experience time
mechanics are the least paid among those...even heavy equip mechanics don't make shit
DannoMight
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I was a laborer/bricklayer for 10years. Also dabbled in concrete as well. I know plenty of sparky's, fitters, plumbers, carpenters, tile setters/flooring guys.
redshirt27se
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carpenter/painter
what do you need to know
what do you need to know
You work at Coldstone Creamery?
CoBra666
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sweet dude, ima go to school for plant operator in spring when my car is paid off. pricks make too much money.. im also a sheet metal tradesman
johnnyrockit8665
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Cabinetry, finish carpentry, sheet metal and I owned a custom car and truck shop for a few years. Right now I am a foreman at a cabinet shop which pays me the best so far!
I'm a carpet cleaner
the hair around a mans asshole and balls don't count as carpet pick...wtf.
Sust 350
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I was a Sheet Metal worker for 13 years. I got sick of the fast pace environment. In the trades all the company's care about, when are you finished, are you done yet, you still there. They are all slave drivers.Sure the money is great, but you have to deal with that, heat, cold and chemicals that are bad for you. I finally found a great job working inside were no one is breathing down my neck. I don't care about the money I care about my health and being happy in my life.
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what about computer repairman@@@#!#$%%^
i was busting chops...but at least you had the balls to attempt something new, a lotta folks (myself included) have never been so bold.
and with the new work drug testing policy, i may never bake until i'm retired...total BS, their is no cutoff level, any amount and you are canned.
but completely acceptable to get ripped drunk on your days off...fug the fed
themondtster
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It's like that at my work except on week days where we have to act busy. We have a decent amount of maintenance. We use a lot of acid in our service and product so Shit breaks down.
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someone send me an engineered floor and cabinets...tyia
last i knew union electricans in my state were making around $34 an hour...how much is the journeymen rate in ireland?
DannoMight
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^^ In chicago electricians are in the mid $40 range per hr. As well as Ironworkers, fitters, plumbers, sheetmetal workers, sprinklerfitters. The brickies are about $38-$39 and laborers are almost $36 per hr.
yea the MI union scale was definetly lower than some bigger cities, esp in bumblefuk where i was.
ironworkers are a tough guy lot, i could never do that shit fuggin dangerous business they deserve to be highly paid
mrplunkey
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I don't know anything about construction -- I freely admit that.
But at those rates, how could a US-built plant ever compete with a foreign one? If you compound those rates with other union-related productivity losses (I.e. Featherbedding), a US-built plant is going to carry much more capital outlay and depreciation cost than its ROW counterpart.
kx250rider
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I used to be in the consumer electronics repair industry (Mitsubishi & Sony factory authorized repair tech), but quit that about 10 years ago when it got to be a rotten job with even more rotten pay. I'm a qualified electrician also, but never worked in it or held a CA license for it.
Charles
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american workers have the highest productivity of any country in the world.
and we consume more than any other country.
mrplunkey
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You aren't going to make an electrician 10x more effective than his ROW counterpart. Even if tools and training gave him 2x (or let's say 3x), it still won't bridge the gap.
DannoMight
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That was just what they see on the check plunky. Add an additional 10-15 dollars per hour for their insurance, retirement and annuity packages for most. To be hones I don't know. I was just happy to get the money when it was there. Also I worked in corrupt chicago (and still do) FWIW. Now I get paid more for less.
mrplunkey
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We almost built a plant in Illinois about four years ago. The unions controlled all the permitting, but if you agreed to use them they had politicians lined-up to give you the difference in cost (it was sizable) back as grants (enterprise zones). It was a remarkably clever way to channel taxpayer money directly to the unions.
DannoMight
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I know when we did govt jobs such as building a new school or an addition onto a public school the contractor was guaranteed 20% profit from his bid. This was before the barry era though. At one point I could walk off a job and have another the next morning making the same money.
Wow, that's a lot of replies...
I was wondering what's a good trade to get into part time and perhaps eventually move into full times...someone highly paid. I have a good paying job, so it's gotta be a good career move too...
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I was wondering what's a good trade to get into part time and perhaps eventually move into full times...someone highly paid. I have a good paying job, so it's gotta be a good career move too...
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Um, how old are you? Apprenticeships take a long time.
And none of the trades are highly paid, man. You can move into the solid middle class with many of them, but that's it.
Well, I guess "high" is relative. One can do very well in the oft-neglected trades of today's world, especially relative to the expensive college tuitions and worthless majors being so heavily pushed by everyone; there's also the opportunity cost of 4+ years salary. But, like everything else, it takes time, learning, experience, and ethic. It's not something I hear of being pursued mid-life, but I'm sure it's possible.
themondtster
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Believe me they make plenty. As long as the product they make is in high demand and selling price in the market doesn't drop its mad profit. That's why even though the price on oil is so high, the refineries are making record profits the last couple years. At our plant its the same. We make about 4 times what we spend to run and we are a really small plant(its all figured in the production cost and then marked up a certain percent). Guess it all depends on the plant, I hear a lot of these "greener" plants are mostly government funded, and around they have also had quite a few get bought out and some shut down.
Some also get tax breaks. We on the other hand pay an obsurd amount of local taxes to the community because of the hazard.
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C0LUMB0
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About the same $34-36 an hour.
C0LUMB0
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Whoa there steve...The Irish built all your major cities, roads and rail roads.
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why bother even posting in here when you make fun of trade peeps?
remember calling people "plumbers" like it was a disss? i do bro
Um, how old are you? Apprenticeships take a long time.
And none of the trades are highly paid, man. You can move into the solid middle class with many of them, but that's it.
maybe it is relative, but some of the wages discussed in this thread are certainly high, higher than a lot of jobs in this country, even ones that require some sorta degree.
mrplunkey
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What they make profit-wise isn't important long term. If their ROW counterpart is operating at a substantially lower cost, it's just a matter of time before they die.
Um, how old are you? Apprenticeships take a long time.
And none of the trades are highly paid, man. You can move into the solid middle class with many of them, but that's it.
I make about 70k a year. I'll work my way up to making 100k a year in the next 4-5 years. You think I can make more getting into a trade?
c-sharp minor
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More? Probably not, unless you put in a substantial amount of OT as that's where many skilled tradespeople make their $$$. BC tradespeople generally get paid highest, but the cost of living can be pretty crazy, even when compared to Ontario. I worked as a skilled tradesman, glass cutter, in MB for over a decade before starting up a web dev biz after college. I'd never go back. Grueling conditions (incredibly high heat and humidity, lifting and manipulating 30,000 + lbs per shift) for less pay, no thanks.
i can tell you that making more than a 100k in trade work proly won't happen, unless you live in nyc or some major union city...and then the 100k won't stretch as far anyway.
when i was pounding nails i worked with a few ex-white collar dudes, a accountant and a financial bro.
both got out of the white collar world cause they were sick of the office lifestyle, and enjoyed getting dirty and putting on a pair of pouches everyday.
that's what i liked about the work, you get to use your hands, play with tools and machinery, and you often went home with the satisfaction of knowing you put in a good day of labor.
but the money won't be as good as what you currently make...but the piece of mind and job satisfaction may be better, and that's why you would consider making the switch, not cause of more loot.
you seem unhappy with your profession, so maybe it would be a good move...get into something clean like electrical or commercial plumbing, stay away from laboring or brick/concrete work, unless you wanna do bull work
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kx250rider
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That's the biggest problem... The cost of living rides on the the average income for the area, and vice-versa. If somebody made $100K/year in Missoula, MT, they'd be living really nice! But make $100K a year in Los Angeles, and be lucky to have a 2-bedroom apartment in a good neighborhood, and a middle-priced car, and not be running up debts. Or MAYBE a 3-bedroom house ($750,000 in a medium-income decent part of Los Angeles), and plan on working 'til 75 to pay it off.
The economy is all SNAFU'd.
Charles
This is what stevemi has previously said about us trade workers
you get the idea...the new face of elite?
wtf
5'5 170 jooser is not hard to pwn bro.
mrplunkey
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pwning arrogant dumbasses since 2001
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mrplunkey
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Indeed.
the mod screening process should be more thorough, surely this is not who should represent EF, which has quite a few blue collar bros.
and not surprizing, dude is a flaming democrat!! i thought only GOP'ers where so mean and arrogant
I'm fine with prestigious people talking shit about the trades, as long as you have the pedigree to back it up.
That said, this dood seems pretty dumb.
I'm fine with prestigious people talking shit about the trades, as long as you have the pedigree to back it up.
That said, this dood seems pretty dumb.
what is okay with talking shit about what a man does for a living?
pedigree or not, it is classless and shows a lack of character.
not everyone is gonna be a scientist or in a lofty academic position, people still need shit to be built
I'm fine with prestigious people talking shit about the trades, as long as you have the pedigree to back it up.
That said, this dood seems pretty dumb.
stfu
Scientists might have lay prestige, but they're poor as shit. Same with academics living in their esoteric bubbles.
I'm talking about someone with a JD from Stanford/MBA from Harvard/MD from JHU taking home a half million plus a year in their 20's from a front office gig at GS/ortho specialist gig/equity partner at biglaw shop kinda thing. The non-middle class generally looks down on the trade workers and laypeople, man. And that's because, generally speaking, they're objectively better than us.
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and windows don't tint themselves
and this dick ain't gonna suck itself
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pics?
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lartinos
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40 bucks an hour plus in KC plus great benefits
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I don't think there is any work available though...you'd have to check your local and get on the list
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I don't think there is any work available though...you'd have to check your local and get on the list
mmmm I forgot about that
PICK3
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I told my H.S. guidance counselor (college prep school) that I wanted to be a plumber to get a rise out of him
mrplunkey
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I'm sensing we have a $9/hour millionaire on our hands.
redshirt27se
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Dude.. work sucks. if you're at 70k and moving to a 100k in the next 4-5, stay on that path. There is no point in changing careers and starting off at the ass end of the pay scale to move up. You're reasonably young, and if you can make your money work for you, you'll be in good shape.
There's nothing wrong with learning a trade. It's useful, fix your own shit when it breaks and maybe a couple other peoples on the side for extra cash..cool do that. But don't backtrack yourself. Even the best jobs out there suck, cause they are jobs. Make your money now and drudge through the bullshit.
The only way you'd out earn yourself in a trade is if you logged crazy OT (not worth it to work yourself into the ground) or learned on the side and eventually opened up a business provided you had a good market to work with and the business experience to not handcuff yourself.
You could if you came out west and were willing to go do camp jobs up north through the winter but it's not a very family friendly/ social lifestyle.
It's not just about money. I am pretty savvy and intelligent and can work my way up to 150k if I realy wanted to. I just want to be able to do something I enjoy doing. There is more to life than money.
mrplunkey
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Correct. There is also wimminz and drugs. But those come easier if you have money.
That is true. I doubt very many people think on their deathbed "I wish I made more money and had more shit" and any person you have to buy to have in your life isn't worth keeping in your life anyway...
I thought you were doing tech support for like printers and shit?
Strongbow
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you should PM needto with your concerns.
dude I don't even remember who you are.... i didn't even know you posted this nonsense until the plankster point it out, but obviously I must have rubbed you wrong like 2 years ago when i joined this site... get over it. anything said on C&C is water under the bridge, now if you talk shit on AAS then thats a different story. but taking shots at a mod or trying to follow me around to get under my skin is not gonna work sorry.. if thats how its gonna be then just bomb me or keep bashing me so you can get sent to bant camp and get it over with.
strongbow used to hate me too (i think or he was just acting so i would give him K), but now we are cool... if he can get over it, then you need to as well.
in fact, here is some K.
I need some K
I dunno about all that, but the last part is spot on.
