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Do you think you do some strong cycles? Look at this...

GreenBastard

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Andreas Munzers cycle, supposedly found in one of his training and diet log books after he died. This is his alleged last cycle, found it on another website. Scary. Very Scary.


Weeks 1-10
ephedrine
aspirin
clenbuterol
valium
captagon-- scheduled 1 drug in the US, meaning no legitimate medical use-- it is an amphetamine-type stimulant--
cytomel

Weeks 1-5
500mg daily of test enanthate
152mg daily of parabolan
150mg daily of dianabol
150mg daily of halotestin
20 IU daily of HGH
20 IU daily of Insulin

Weeks 6-8
300mg daily of masteron
152mg daily of parabolan
250mg daily of winstrol tabs
150mg daily of halotestin
50mg daily of winstrol inj
24 IU daily of HGH

Weeks 9-10
200mg daily of masteron
100mg daily of winny inj
200mg daily of halotestin
400mg daily of winny tabs
24 IU daily of HGH
Insulin daily
IGF -1 daily

Days 1-3 leading up to show
aldactone, lasix

If that is not the craziest cycle you have ever seen then im curious as to what is. the doses are beyond insane....idk how he survived day to day the side effects would have most people in the hospital in a matter of hours. I guess it caught up to him.....

I look at this and i cant help but think...if he had the resources and the knowledge that people do now days back then....
 
if you ever wondered how much gear a person can possibly take, theres your answer. he hit the limit. i also read that his liver had almost completely disolved when he checked into the hospital
 
Jesus - just the 250mg daily and then 400mg daily of winny alone made my insides hurt
 
So this begs to answer. Passion or insanity, And is there even a difference? He HAD to know something was wrong and he pushed on anyway. The guy died chasing his dream And following it. Stupid or not there is poetry in this.
 
This is a prime example why i listen to my body, I never get crazy ,but sure! some of my cycles are long but! it's all low and reasonable dosages!
 
Thats just stupid!
 
he must have been rich .. he spent more in one day on juice then some countries spend on feeding their military

but seriously talk about blowing out your receptors, he probably got into the habit of bigger and bigger dosages and by then it was over. i don't want to mention the word addicted but sure seems like he was. i dont think i have come close to taking that much gear in my life much less in week.

and i dont want to mention the word selfish either but if he had a wife and kids and did this then he is flat out selfish.. if he had no family then its his business if he wants to trash his body
 
^^^this
 
Not only was the gear wrecking his organs (that's a lot of orals, don't care what anyone says), but the amphetamines must have been wrecking his body and just making everything much worse.

RIP
 
I am speechless. The Winny tabs daily dose alone would be enough to cause liver failure. I consider myself knowledgable but damn I don't even know what some of that he was taking is????
 
Wikipedia:
After months of stomach pain, Münzer was admitted to hospital on the morning of March 12. By 7pm, doctors had decided to operate to stop bleeding from his stomach, but shortly afterwards his liver and then kidneys failed. His condition by this point was too severe for a blood transfusion—he died on the morning of March 14, aged 31.[1][2]
The autopsy gave the cause of death as dystrophic multiple-organ-failure.[3] Some of the specific autopsy findings:[3]

  • An extremely muscular physique, with an almost complete absence of subcutaneous fat
  • Affecting the liver were numerous table-tennis-ball-sized tumors; half the liver consisted simply of a crumbly mass, similar to polystyrene (Styrofoam)
  • Diminutive testes
  • Cardiac hypertrophy (MĂĽnzer's heart weighed 636g; a normal man's heart usually weighs 300–350g)
MĂĽnzer's electrolytes were also completely out of balance, and his potassium levels were extremely high. Traces of about twenty different drugs were found, along with acute toxicity (perhaps caused by a stimulant).
Schwarzenegger sent a wreath to Munzer's funeral in Styria, with the message 'A last greeting to a friend.'
 
That can't be right. If so that is one of the biggest cycles ever run. Ha ha. Surpassing the really big guys like Ronnie, jay, markus, etc. Not trying to be Mr negative but that cycle sounds like one of those crazy made up cycles that circulates around the internet. He looked great for sure but not that great. Lol.

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I've seen this cycle come up many times over the years since he died.
I wouldnt doubt it at all. All this shit and whats the best munzer ever did? 9th at the olympia.
He obviously was one of the most striated shredded guys out there. Yes he was a freak. But he didnt obviously have the genetic freak-ness that guys like Ronnie and Jay ect, have. Yes they are all walking science experiments but munzer just wasnt genetically able to get as big regardless of the drugs. Im sure he realized that and just started piling on...cause as we all know more is better right:rolleyes:
 
If it wasn't for the high level of orals and the amphetamine, then I wouldn't see anything wrong with a cycle like this at IFBB pro level. These guys do whatever it takes. Even risk their health and lives to win. Just my opinion.
 
They def. do what it takes but a lot of those guys dont take anywhere near what everyone thinks. A food many of the top pros have the genetic potential to be hyper responders to juice. That's what sets them apart....not the fact that they are taking 5+ grams of gear a week.

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well if you look at the guy, he will always be remembered by many as THE most ripped and shredded guy to ever walk on stage. His physique was near flawless, im not sure why he never placed in the top 5 of an olympia, maybe because that was the day of the superfreak size...guys competing at 275+lbs. but ya those orals are just crazy. It reminds me of what arnold always said, how the difference between an average guy and a champion is that the champion will do anything, whatever it takes and not care how far he has to go in order to reach his goal. this is an example of doing whatever it takes. now would there be a smarter way to do this hell yes but again they did not have nearly the knowledge that we do today. RIP!
 
Craig Titus may be an asshole, but he told me something once I always remembered -- he said, if you can't reach pro level on a gram a week, you'll never reach it, even on 10 grams a week.
 
Craig Titus may be an asshole, but he told me something once I always remembered -- he said, if you can't reach pro level on a gram a week, you'll never reach it, even on 10 grams a week.

I don't care about what Craig and his girlfriend did to that one chic. I don't care if he was an asshole. I think he had a great physique!
 
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