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Dermatherm trial run just finished!!!

ironclaw

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Hey guys. I just finished my second bottle of the Dermatherm fat loss product. And I am very impressed with the results. I stopped 2 days ago, and I weighed 197 lbs. Today, I weighed at the gym,and I had dropped to 194 lbs., which I have to attribute to water retention. After laying out at the pool after working out today, man, I was vascular and my muscles felt full and pumped, my skin was extremely thin and my abs were looking crisp as hell. I'm the leanest I've ever been in my life.. Eric, from Primodial Performance, has suggested to wait 3-4 days after finishing Dermatherm to take bf measurements and to take pictures due to the water weight gained during taking the product. So, I will take pictures tomorrow afternoon, and post before and after pictures for everyone to see and judge for themselves. All and all, this product is among the best fat loss procucts on the market today. I am totally pleased with the results and would recommend the product to anyone. I started out at 9.4% bf. and if I had to guess I"m at 6% right now. I will measure with calipers tomorrow to see what the final figure is. Great job Dermatherm!!

ironclaw
 
Did you experience lethargy, excessive sweating, or any other side effects during your run?
 
ironclaw said:
Hey guys. I just finished my second bottle of the Dermatherm fat loss product. And I am very impressed with the results. I stopped 2 days ago, and I weighed 197 lbs. Today, I weighed at the gym,and I had dropped to 194 lbs., which I have to attribute to water retention. After laying out at the pool after working out today, man, I was vascular and my muscles felt full and pumped, my skin was extremely thin and my abs were looking crisp as hell. I'm the leanest I've ever been in my life.. Eric, from Primodial Performance, has suggested to wait 3-4 days after finishing Dermatherm to take bf measurements and to take pictures due to the water weight gained during taking the product. So, I will take pictures tomorrow afternoon, and post before and after pictures for everyone to see and judge for themselves. All and all, this product is among the best fat loss procucts on the market today. I am totally pleased with the results and would recommend the product to anyone. I started out at 9.4% bf. and if I had to guess I"m at 6% right now. I will measure with calipers tomorrow to see what the final figure is. Great job Dermatherm!!

ironclaw

Where are those pics at ironclaw, the suspense is killin me bro.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
Did you experience lethargy, excessive sweating, or any other side effects during your run?
no lethargy, but I was constantly sweating my ass off, day and night, but I'm sure it was fromt the tren and clen and eca stack with the heat from outside also.
 
ironclaw said:
no lethargy, but I was constantly sweating my ass off, day and night, but I'm sure it was fromt the trenbolone and Clenbuterol and eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin stack with the heat from outside also.

How can you tell the Dermatherm is creating your recomposition? You're taking various other metabolism enhancing pharmaceuticals.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
How can you tell the Dermatherm is creating your recomposition? You're taking various other metabolism enhancing pharmaceuticals.
the guys using dermatherm were hand selected vets that have don many cycles and use many products,they no there body and the results they get from things they put in it or on it.many of them were already low bf to so they would deff be able to tell right away if it was working or not.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
How can you tell the Dermatherm is creating your recomposition? You're taking various other metabolism enhancing pharmaceuticals.
true bro, but I've taken clen and eca stacks before and never ever gotton this lean, this quick before. so I"m positive the dermatherm had a lot to do with it, how much, its hard to say, but if I had to venture a guess, it helped with about 30-40% of my results....
 
To me it makes more sense to isolate the dermatherm as the sole pharmaceutical variable. I understand vets, "know their body", but they do not know their body to any kind of precise dose/response relation. For example does any vet know that if he sticks 500 mgs of test en in his body per week he will gain precisely 10.4 pounds of muscle mass at the end of a 12 week cycle? Also there may be some form of synergy that exists between dermatherm and these other pharmaceuticals causing him to lose more weight in the presence of those pharmaceuticals than he would without those same pharmaceuticals. For example Ironclaw is also using ephedrine, caffeine, and asprin. The three are used in combination because they synergize eachother.

This is not to say dermatherm does not work. I'm interested in a more precise determination of how well it works on it's own as opposed to speculation on how well it works on it's own.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
To me it makes more sense to isolate the dermatherm as the sole pharmaceutical variable. I understand vets, "know their body", but they do not know their body to any kind of precise dose/response relation. For example does any vet know that if he sticks 500 mgs of test en in his body per week he will gain precisely 10.4 pounds of muscle mass at the end of a 12 week cycle? Also there may be some form of synergy that exists between dermatherm and these other pharmaceuticals causing him to lose more weight in the presence of those pharmaceuticals than he would without those same pharmaceuticals. For example Ironclaw is also using ephedrine, caffeine, and asprin. The three are used in combination because they synergize eachother.

This is not to say dermatherm does not work. I'm interested in a more precise determination of how well it works on it's own as opposed to speculation on how well it works on it's own.


Jacob,

You are correct on the synergy, which is exactly why I advised ironclaw to use the Dermatherm with a sympathetic stimulant.

Dermatherm is probably thee’ most effective non-stimulant based fatburner on the market, but when you combine it with the appetite suppressing and energy inducing properties of a CNS stimulant (such as ECA or clen) results become much more impressive. Plus, DermaTherm users tend to get hungrier and unconsciously eat more, so the appetite suppressing effect is welcome. The metabolism gets ramped up so much that it actually increases your appetite – go figure.

If your interested, I believe we did have a couple testers who used the product by itself and posted a log. (check out meso and OLM or shoot me a PM)

-Pp
 
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