Depression, I won't deny it. . . .

[Bulk King]

Classic hysteria towards benzo's. Many drugs have addicting quality's, which does'nt mean they don't have a place in treatment. I personally went to my doctor and was tried on three different anti deppressant all of which seemed to make me somewhat psychotic instead of depressed. Forgetting to take a daily dose of Paxil was the most excruciating pain I can describe. Gave up on that asshole and got some black market valium, took it only when totally stressed and to my suprise I managed to get through without killing myself.
Talk shit about Benzo's all you want and talk up the anti-d's. Why are they the number one selling drugs? Because drug companies push the shit out of them. Not much money left in drugs who's patents have expired.
I have'nt used any benzo's since then and did'nt use often enough to have any, and I mean any withdrawal symtoms. Wish I could say the same for anti depressants.
I wa'nt trying to push a certain type of drug on anyone, just relaying my PERSONAL experience, not just talking out my ass.

Addiction is more about personality then drugs. I have had a bottle of hydromorophone(sure you've seen lots of addicts who love this shit) sitting in my medicine cabinet for a year. In that year I've maybe used it 3 times. Other people would have gone through the bottle in a week or less and been looking for more. That's not me. Self-medicate does not equal addiction and the reality is most of the benzo addicts got started by their doctors.

 

[HvyW8]

Thanks for all your input guys. It makes me feel better just knowing that I"m not the only one that experiences this.

 

[AtLarge]

I have done a lot of research on the subject of post cycle depression and many of the studies i have read implicate a catabolic state and a correlation of cortisol levels with post cycle depression. Cortisol is also correlated with anxiety and panic attacks. Those with panic/anxiety disorder often have depression as well. Studies have shown that stress elevated cortisol have bein associated with cases of spontaneous anxiety and depression. I will post one of the studies soon.

 

[haxedout]

jesus......he can take care of everything bro

 

[Dr. M]

HvyW8 -

your admittedly almost constant use of the ECA stack may have contributed in a significant way to your depression.

Ephedrine has been hypothesized to have some effect on the amount of 5-HT (aka serotonin) released by your endocrine system. Lack of serotonin can lead to problems with appetite, sleep disruption, libido, and many other bodily functions. It can also lead to depression.

Such chronic use may have down-regulated your serotonin release and caused all the symptoms you described. My suggestion would be to totally avoid the ephi, and start on something like Zoloft, which will improve your mood and sleep patterns without down-regulating serotonin release. After a few weeks, much like clomid and nolvadex after a hard cycle, you'll be able to come off and live a normal life once again.

Just my 2mL for a brother who seems like he's hurting. Best of luck with this, Hvy.

Regards,
-M

 

[woje3]

I just came across this topic and I'm in the same situation. I've been suffering from anxiety and depression for over a year now and have been with the same doctor ever since but I'm getting fed up and want to change docs. I tried paxil, which I think made me feel worse, and lexapro which basically felt the same as paxil....It did nothing for anxiety at all, and the sides sucked. It sucks when you have a hot girlfriend and you start taking that stuff and you get the sexual side effects and don't have much of a sex drive and she starts to think it's her. Anyway, the biggest frustration I have is the doctor I've been seeing for over a year has this kind of wait and see approach and be patient and this and that...I don't understand how you can be so patient with this kind of problem. Does anyone know of a doc in the Chicagoland area that is more open to prescribing things like benzos, or more open to changing meds faster if they just aren't working? Any help would be appreciated.

 

[georgie24]

take soem time out and get focused again, you will weather this storm with ease buddy

 

[rsd01]

Couple of suggestions. Examine your routine to see if you are overtraining. Burn out can definitely lead to depression but it is only a factor that contributes to a preexisting condition. Most people who suffer from depression are predisposed to it. Do not rule out medication. It can work wonders. Medication does have its difficulties though. It may take several trials to find the right one for you and you may experience the most common side effects of sexual dysfunction and sleep problems. The first thing you should do though, is seek out a good therapist, one with either a PhD or a PsyD. I do not recommend getting therapy from a psychiatrist or a social worker. They are most often not nearly as well trained in clinical work.